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Any value in giving JVR a sniff at the big time?

 
16 minutes ago, Jontee said:

Any value in giving JVR a sniff at the big time?

Disrespect the opponent at your peril - nobody gets a sniff until they well and truly deserve it 

If JVR is considered the best available for a position in the 22 great - if not he plays at Casey

BBB is very lucky he isn't busting the door down IMO - despite being a big lad I just don't think he has the physical maturity to compete in a KFP at AFL level yet   

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    22 minutes ago, Jontee said:

    Any value in giving JVR a sniff at the big time?

    He's certainly in good form that's for sure. 

    I've watched most Casey games this year and his physicality and strength for an 18 year is bloody scary. Not only that, he's shown that he's got the forward smarts and leading patterns to succeed at AFL level.

    10 games in the VFL for 20 goals speaks for itself. 

    Had he been drafted to a bottom 8 club I have no doubt that he would be playing AFL. I don't mind him learning his craft at VFL, but I really do hope he gets a taste of AFL this year because with a full pre season behind I can easily see him being in our best 22 next year.

    Big call, but sometimes you just watch certain players go about it and they just 'have it'.

     

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    1 hour ago, Lord Nev said:

    Again, where?

    I've had a pretty big search and found not one article that suggests the deal was 400k per year or that he gave up a million dollars, so keen to see the link you read it at.

    And you are correct, Adam Ramanauskas turned down 3 years at 750k reportedly, so I would be pretty surprised to hear he then signed for nearly half of that with another club.

    Just curious. Can any manager make such a decision? Or is it always the player that has the final say? I can appreciate that a manager can advise a client on a particular course of action, but surely the decision has to be that of the player, not a unilateral decision of the player's manager.

    My recollection is BBB knocked back a 3yr $750k a year deal at North - he wanted 4yrs and the 3yr offer was withdrawn - and in the end took a 4yr $400k a year deal at Melbourne,

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    44 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

    My recollection is BBB knocked back a 3yr $750k a year deal at North - he wanted 4yrs and the 3yr offer was withdrawn - and in the end took a 4yr $400k a year deal at Melbourne,

    Correct about the 3 x $750k offer...

    It was enough for the Kangaroos to table a lucrative three-year deal reportedly worth $750,000 a season at the start of the year - an offer Brown and manager Adam Ramanauskas rebuffed.

    https://au.sports.yahoo.com/afl-2020-ben-brown-north-melbourne-contract-caroline-wilson-footy-classified-032544368.html

    Ben Brown leaving North had absolutely nothing to do with money or length of contract.

    He is getting paid significantly less at Melbourne than he would have been paid at North. He also did not leave for success (although anything is an upgrade on North). He left because he was treated appallingly during a very difficult personal time and particularly his wife wanted a change of scenery for their family. Melbourne presented really well to them and offered them the sort of family club culture they were after. 

    Edit: and because Brown is such a decent guy, he never wanted to come out and speak badly about North so the conversation in the media was about length of contract, when in reality it was about their crappy culture. I mean JHF has had a gutful of the place and he's 18 with 8 games under his belt, not 29 with a young family. 

     

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    2 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

    Ben Brown leaving North had absolutely nothing to do with money or length of contract.

    He is getting paid significantly less at Melbourne than he would have been paid at North. He also did not leave for success (although anything is an upgrade on North). He left because he was treated appallingly during a very difficult personal time and particularly his wife wanted a change of scenery for their family. Melbourne presented really well to them and offered them the sort of family club culture they were after. 

     

    Sounds like you may have some personal knowledge or insight here - if so, thanks for sharing 

     
    On 6/27/2022 at 9:00 PM, chook fowler said:

    1 kg each week of beansprouts, tofu and alfalfa. Yum.

    a nice juicy steak might just be the solution?

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    50 minutes ago, Demonland said:

     

    Bloody paywall

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    6 hours ago, jnrmac said:

    My recollection is BBB knocked back a 3yr $750k a year deal at North - he wanted 4yrs and the 3yr offer was withdrawn - and in the end took a 4yr $400k a year deal at Melbourne,

    Have always wondered what we offered ... $400k seems unders ... where did you hear that

    12 minutes ago, Demons1858 said:

    Have always wondered what we offered ... $400k seems unders ... where did you hear that

    So he is a vegetarian because he can’t afford steak?  I know cost of living is soaring but … ???


    16 hours ago, Demons1858 said:

    Have always wondered what we offered ... $400k seems unders ... where did you hear that

    From an assistant coach....Sounds about right. His knee was pretty cooked and a 4 year deal takes him to 32 I think. There are some who thought it was too much in value and length....

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