TEAMS: Rd 07 vs Hawthorn

[Olgreybeard49 261]

1 hour ago, Engorged Onion said:

Hmmmmm......just on that, how many goals is the minimum for him to retain his spot? ....5? 😇

The answer is zero.  What the coaches value is defensive pressure and goal assists.  Last week when a journalist asked Goody about Kossie returning to form, Goody said 'He hasn't been down in the things we value. 6 possessions and 8 tackles prior week." Not to  mention the push that created the path for Petracca's goal. Toby will be fine if he sticks to what I am happy to say is now the Melbourne way.

[Engorged Onion 10,224]

1 hour ago, Olgreybeard49 said:

The answer is zero.  What the coaches value is defensive pressure and goal assists.  Last week when a journalist asked Goody about Kossie returning to form, Goody said 'He hasn't been down in the things we value. 6 possessions and 8 tackles prior week." Not to  mention the push that created the path for Petracca's goal. Toby will be fine if he sticks to what I am happy to say is now the Melbourne way.

Thanks mate. I was being a little sardonic… but what I hadn’t heard was Goodwins presser and being clear about attributes/behaviours we value being made so public - that’s fantasic

Edited April 29, 2022 by Engorged Onion

[leave it to deever 17,596]

2 hours ago, Mazer Rackham said:

Last time we played the Hawks, we weren't sure how good we were, and if everything was going to go up in a puff of smoke at some stage.

Also we were up against Clarkson, who, with not much at his disposal, still managed to craft a gameplan specifically for us. It nearly got us too. I recall late in the 4th, in front of the Hawks' goal, a crucial, and buII****, holding the ball decision went against us. Clarkson in the coaches box pounded the desk in glee as he knew how buII**** it was, but didn't care as long as his plan brought home the bacon.

Mitchell might be just as crafty as Clarkson, but he doesn't have the experience, or the troops, to successfully carry out his plan.

Also, this time we know how good we are.

And the game before that we smashed  them in the third.

[Maldonboy38 6,419]

ANB out for tomorrow - Health & Safety protocols.

[Demonland 73,654]

 

[Nelo 813]

Should we be expecting some further late outs tomorrow?

[spirit of norm smith 16,648]

More updates … 

Hunt* May Smith*

Bowey Lever Rivers 

Brayshaw Viney Langdon

Melksham* Weid* Spargo

Bedford* Brown Fritsch

Gawn Trac Oliver 

Jordon* Harmes Dunstan*  Tmcd

7 premiership players out - Salem Jackson Kozzy Sparrow Petty ANB Hibberd 

* replacements

 

[deelusions from afar 1,871]

I thought it was reported that all 22 players made the captains run today??

Was ANB there?

[Demon Dynasty 17,135]

2 minutes ago, deelusions from afar said:

I thought it was reported that all 22 players made the captains run today??

Was ANB there?

Yup

[Demon Dynasty 17,135]

51 minutes ago, Nelo said:

Should we be expecting some further late outs tomorrow?

Apparently we've run outta RATS 

[monoccular 17,678]

9 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

One reason for our pts vs Richmond is because they forced us to play wide to the flanks so we weren't able to position the ball where we prefer i50.

I suspect this tactic will be used often against us as it works, to some extent.  We still get lots of i50 but accuracy suffers.  The tactic works until we wear teams down and play 'our way'.

I seem to remember hearing that we preferred to attack the pockets rather than centrally to force boundary stoppages in the event of us not taking possession rather than turning over and allowing oppositions to clear.

5 hours ago, Engorged Onion said:

Hmmmmm......just on that, how many goals is the minimum for him to retain his spot? ....5? 😇

Assists, and pressure acts, if that is what is asked of him (his role) more important than goals

[Lucifers Hero 40,525]

1 hour ago, monoccular said:

I seem to remember hearing that we preferred to attack the pockets rather than centrally to force boundary stoppages in the event of us not taking possession rather than turning over and allowing oppositions to clear.

The comment came from Goodwins press conf last week.

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 10,994]

13 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

You completely undersell Petty. He is as important and arguably in far better form than both Kosi and Jackson.

He would be a perfect match up for Gunston who has a fun time destroying us.

Petty is so firmly embedded in our starting 18, and we are a far better team with him playing, which is why he was rushed back from injury and pushed Tomlinson out of the team.

I will go out on a limb and say that he will take over from May when May retires. He is that good! 

Absolutely agree with everything you have said here New Jaded.  Additionally, I was super impressed with how quickly Petty stepped straigh back in and found form again after his long injury interuped pre-season.  He was on fire, pulling in great intercept/contested marks, defending well and precisely hitting up great targets with his kicking from day dot.  Really speaks to both the great job our fitness team did with him and the quality of player he has become.

Edited April 29, 2022 by Rodney (Balls) Grinter

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 10,994]

4 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

More updates … 

Hunt* May Smith*

Bowey Lever Rivers 

Brayshaw Viney Langdon

Melksham* Weid* Spargo

Bedford* Brown Fritsch

Gawn Trac Oliver 

Jordon* Harmes Dunstan*  Tmcd

7 premiership players out - Salem Jackson Kozzy Sparrow Petty ANB Hibberd 

* replacements

 

The differentiation of 'premiership players' from those that missed is a little tenuous I think.  There were several very unlucky not to play on the day like Hunt, given he'd been locked in the team most of the season until injury struck on the eve of finals and similarly Jordan.  We have also had some indications that Bedford and Smith could be pretty close to the mark as well.  A significant part of our sucess stems from the quality of depth players we had on our list.  I think I recall Max making the point in his book that playrs like Mitch Brown were supper important to driving training standards and actully quite close to potentially getting a game.  Adam Tomlinson was certainly performing at the required level at the start of the season, that I think he also could have played in the GF, had he not got injured.  In these respects, I think you could almost count the whole playing list as premiership players.

Edited April 29, 2022 by Rodney (Balls) Grinter

[spirit of norm smith 16,648]

8 hours ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

The differentiation of 'premiership players' from those that missed is a little tenuous I think.  There were several very unlucky not to play on the day like Hunt, given he'd been locked in the team most of the season until injury struck on the eve of finals and similarly Jordan.  We have also had some indications that Bedford and Smith could be pretty close to the mark as well.  A significant part of our sucess stems from the quality of depth players we had on our list.  I think I recall Max making the point in his book that playrs like Mitch Brown were supper important to driving training standards and actully quite close to potentially getting a game.  Adam Tomlinson was certainly performing at the required level at the start of the season, that I think he also could have played in the GF, had he not got injured.  In these respects, I think you could almost count the whole playing list as premiership players.

That’s agreed. I was just marking up our changes from the GF22.  Our depth is good and hopefully youngsters like Bedford take the chance. 

[Fritta and Turner 4,677]

When was the last time we had 5 changes?

[bluey 1,118]

Missed opportunity to give Oskar Baker a game.

I reckon we will struggle.

[At Least I Saw a Flag 5,323]

52 minutes ago, bluey said:

Missed opportunity to give Oskar Baker a game.

I reckon we will struggle.

He's had plenty of chances.

 

[daisycutter 29,897]

Just now, Winners at last said:

He's had plenty of chances.

 

he's an emergency, so with covid lurking he is still a chance today