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2 hours ago, DubDee said:

The Cotchin one is unbelievable. He deliberately kicked out with his studs in retaliation. Would be a red card and 3-4 week ban in soccer. 

such a cheap shot. Deserved 2 weeks imo. I’m glad Walker has the guts to speak up about it

the MRO is so much worse that last year and it was pathetic already. 

Sorry to do this, but the only place I could find the comparative kick I was looking for. Just go to 6.30 in and watch 15 seconds then, burn the link!!

Tony Francis got 6 weeks for his little buttt kick way back in 1990, which was less likely to cause damage than Cotchins and I think is proof that in a lot of areas the tribunal is actually far more lenient than they were years ago. Now its not the action but the outcome that is the only concern, so if you full on smack a wombat in the head, you'll move off scott free, but if you touch a butterfly wing, you'll get life.. so kick as many players as you like kids, just make sure its not hard enough to cause real damage seems to be the take on that, but don't get a legitimate football action slightly wrong if it could lead to a serious injury, because you'll be punished severely even though its an accident. (careless or reckless actions don't get me wrong still need to be penalised). Kicking was always seen as the ultimate dog act and was punished harshly irrespective of severity, still should be. 

The outcome based decisions are crazy and solely its luck of the draw if a player is injured or not. Not against rules to stop concussions, in fact I'm all for anything that is a bad look being ironed out, but the action should be what is consistently on trial.

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    Maybe kicking a racist is a free pass?

    Cotchin should have been suspended or at least fined for that action, but on the other hand, who amongst us hasn't had the strong urge to kick Walker? He's a complete bozo. 

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    1 hour ago, Jaded No More said:

    Maybe kicking a racist is a free pass?

    Cotchin should have been suspended or at least fined for that action, but on the other hand, who amongst us hasn't had the strong urge to kick Walker? He's a complete bozo. 

    Settle down Jaded.

    How Cotchin didn’t get at least a week is mind boggling. He could have really done some major damage to Walker’s leg with his studs. No wonder Walker was furious with the MRO on radio yesterday.

    The AFL didn’t like his comments, but watch them do nothing, to make it all go away.

    Cotchin has repeatedly got away with incidents that others would have been penalised for. 

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    1 hour ago, Redleg said:

    Settle down Jaded.

    How Cotchin didn’t get at least a week is mind boggling. He could have really done some major damage to Walker’s leg with his studs. No wonder Walker was furious with the MRO on radio yesterday.

    The AFL didn’t like his comments, but watch them do nothing, to make it all go away.

    Cotchin has repeatedly got away with incidents that others would have been penalised for. 

    Is there any vision of the incident other than the couple of stills?

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    2 hours ago, Redleg said:

    Settle down Jaded.

    How Cotchin didn’t get at least a week is mind boggling. He could have really done some major damage to Walker’s leg with his studs. No wonder Walker was furious with the MRO on radio yesterday.

    The AFL didn’t like his comments, but watch them do nothing, to make it all go away.

    Cotchin has repeatedly got away with incidents that others would have been penalised for. 

    I can guarantee you that, true to form, if this incident was not involving AFL darling Cotchin and AFL outcast Walker, there would have been a suspension.

    To be clear I do not condone what Cotchin did, nor do I condone Walker being allowed to play AFL, nor do I condone the MRO for being a joke. 

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    2 hours ago, sue said:

    Is there any vision of the incident other than the couple of stills?

    Yes shown over and over on fox footy. Try AFL site under MRO this week and they will probably have some video. Pretty ordinary action by Cotchin and clearly deliberate.

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    8 minutes ago, Redleg said:

    Yes shown over and over on fox footy. Try AFL site under MRO this week and they will probably have some video. Pretty ordinary action by Cotchin and clearly deliberate.

    thanks. On the AFL site the most recent case under MRP is that of Preuss and  'latest' stuff from years ago, sigh.  But Prof Google pointed me to the news section.

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    The closest similar incident I could think of to Cotchin’s studding was Campbell Brown’s 4 week suspension for studding James Strauss in the face back in 2013. Was deemed a secondary action requiring Strauss to get medical attention - together with Brown’s appalling record. Whilst Cotchin’s was a secondary movement too, Walker didn’t need medical attention and Cotchin has a relatively good record. Good call, play on.

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    18 hours ago, Mazer Rackham said:

    So the message has gone out. Staging is worth trying -- you might get away with it. Kicking is okay.

    One week suspension for these characters nips the problem in the bud.

    Now there will be more incidents of staging and kicking and the AFL will tie themselves in knots without fixing the problem.

    It all depends on your name/team wether you get away with it.

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    The MRO are a laughing stock again given Lewis Young a week.

    Tribunal just cleared him.  MRO must want netball?  collisions happen. [censored]

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    The AFL counsel argued Young could have gone to the side and avoided contact.

     

    What would the coach have said about that???

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    My seemingly all too regular comment: the system is broken.

    Larkey tunnels a completely defenceless player. He was in complete control of his actions, was not under any pressure, and was effectively pre-medidated. One week.

    Cotchin kicks Walker. No weeks.

    Players execute bumps or tackles crudely - weeks are thrown around like we have so many to dole out it's not funny.

    Don't get me wrong: I am in favour of suspending players who elect to bump but then make high contact (i.e. not Lewis Young). But the system continues to over-penalise the wrong conduct, particularly by focusing on the outcome and not the action, and under-penalise disgraceful conduct such as that of Larkey and Cotchin.

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    Zac Jones fined for striking Oliver. To be honest I thought if Jones was going to get cited it would be for the deliberate charge/tunnelling of Langdon immediately prior to that. No attempt to contest the mark in my view and deliberately took out Langdon when he was in a vulnerable position.

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    1 minute ago, Nascent said:

    Zac Jones fined for striking Oliver. To be honest I thought if Jones was going to get cited it would be for the deliberate charge/tunnelling of Langdon immediately prior to that. No attempt to contest the mark in my view and deliberately took out Langdon when he was in a vulnerable position.

    I agree the Oliver hit was minor but the Langdon tunneling was extremely dangerous and totally unnecessary.  
    What is “charging” these days?  Is it still on the books? 2 metre Peter did one this week and I think Cox 🕶 another a few weeks back - all ignored. All should, at very least, have been a 50 (but I guess waving arms is a far greater offence 🙄)

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    • 2 weeks later...

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    Incident explained:
    The incident involving North Melbourne’s Tarryn Thomas and Narrm’s Ed Langdon from the first quarter of Saturday's match between North Melbourne and Narrm was assessed. Langdon gains possession of the ball in North Melbourne’s back pocket before he is tackled by Thomas. It was the view of the Match Review Officer that Thomas’ actions did not constitute a reportable offence. No further action was taken.

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    4 minutes ago, Demonland said:

    Incident explained:
    The incident involving North Melbourne’s Tarryn Thomas and Narrm’s Ed Langdon from the first quarter of Saturday's match between North Melbourne and Narrm was assessed. Langdon gains possession of the ball in North Melbourne’s back pocket before he is tackled by Thomas. It was the view of the Match Review Officer that Thomas’ actions did not constitute a reportable offence. No further action was taken.

    Further proof that the AFL care only about concussions and other bodily harm is totally fine. 
    Chandler breaks Foley’s shoulder and he’s free to play. Ed gets concussed and Thomas gets weeks. 

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    2 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

    Further proof that the AFL care only about concussions and other bodily harm is totally fine. 
    Chandler breaks Foley’s shoulder and he’s free to play. Ed gets concussed and Thomas gets weeks. 

    There's no class action being assembled for victims of cracked ribs, torn hamstrings or high ankle sprain injuries.

    Also, I thought it was a great tackle. If one of our blokes laid that I'd be punching the air in approval

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    It was the view of thew Match Review Officer that the TV commentators weren't really outraged about it, so no further action was taken.

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    Goes with the territory? Would certainly not applaud that action borders on potential GBH. Aussie rules is a great game not to be confused with some craven caged ‘contest’. 

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    2 hours ago, Go the Biff said:

    There's no class action being assembled for victims of cracked ribs, torn hamstrings or high ankle sprain injuries.

    Also, I thought it was a great tackle. If one of our blokes laid that I'd be punching the air in approval

    Cracked ribs is an incredibly dangerous injury that could lead to punctured lungs. 
    While I completely agree that we need to protect the head and avoid concussion, accidental injuries will occur all day every day in footy. If you’re going to punish accidental head injuries why aren’t you going to punish accidental rib or shoulder or knee injuries which occur in a tackle? 
    Chandler didn’t mean to hurt his opponent. Thomas sure as hell did. 

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    On 4/20/2022 at 2:52 PM, sue said:

    Is there any vision of the incident other than the couple of stills?

     

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    3 hours ago, Go the Biff said:

    There's no class action being assembled for victims of cracked ribs, torn hamstrings or high ankle sprain injuries.

    Also, I thought it was a great tackle. If one of our blokes laid that I'd be punching the air in approval

    He pinned his arms & pile drove him into the ground. This is virtually the same as a sling tackle. 

    If its not illegal it should be.

     

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    32 minutes ago, Cranky Franky said:

    He pinned his arms & pile drove him into the ground. This is virtually the same as a sling tackle. 

    If its not illegal it should be.

     

    Absolute bollocks.

    His arms were free. Fair tackle - no prior, ball-up.
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