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Farewell Luke Jackson

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  On 05/10/2022 at 07:37, mmwd6 said:

Don't see this helping us. WC are going to want to keep a pick in the top 10 this year. Which only leaves their F1 and ports F1 on offer for us? 

West Coast could trade 8 for Freo’s 13 and North’s pick if they’re really down on this draft. Wouldn’t be crazy. Slide back twice and own next years top 25

Doubt they’re in on Jackson, but it might help us if they dangle 8 and Port’s first and make Freo work harder 

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      On 05/10/2022 at 06:35, Davos said:

    Not really keen on Cadman personally. I wonder whether we'd be interested in Rueben Ginbey (another WA kid, I know). 

    We are interested in him,  Tim Lamb watched him live and he has been spoken to by us.

    He has been on our radar since last season 

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      On 05/10/2022 at 06:30, Lord Nev said:

    Can't see how they get Bruhn then. Pick 18 won't cut it, and you wouldn't accept their future first given it could be the same pick.

    Henry has more currency than Bruhn IMO. Bruhn hasn’t done much to really validate his talent at first round level. But 18 and change for one, future 1st and change for the other should get the deals done. 

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      On 05/10/2022 at 07:44, Pennant St Dee said:

    We are interested in him,  Tim Lamb watched him live and he has been spoken to by us.

    He has been on our radar since last season 

    Love these titbits mate.

    Really want this kid but can't see it happening unless we can really work our way up into the top 5.

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      On 05/10/2022 at 02:20, Stiff Arm said:

    I don't think Dogga has found his best role (as opposed to position) within the Melbourne side. Is he best competing in the ruck contest, or roving around as a tall, competitive  mid or kicking goals deep? We all see his potential and upside, but we don't know how far that will extend. With maturity and experience he will find that role and hopefully become the star that people talk of.

    That is what we are trading upon, not that he is comparable atm to Grundy, Carey,  Dusty or Gawn

    I see him as potentially becoming a Joe Daniher-type, but a version of Joe Daniher that is actually a good footballer. 

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      On 05/10/2022 at 07:18, Mickey said:

    I think the consensus has always been that, if they are bring Jackson in, the AFL would sign off on it. 

    As a side note - with no intent to derail this wonderfully entertaining thread -  i wonder how many times this sentence has been repeated on DL. Which begs the bigger and more important question, what is the most repeated one liner ever on DL. 

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      On 05/10/2022 at 07:48, Nascent said:

    Love these titbits mate.

    Really want this kid but can't see it happening unless we can really work our way up into the top 5.

    Rueban won’t go Top 10 IMO, Busslinger will be the first WA boy picked

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      On 05/10/2022 at 07:41, Demonland said:

     

    Is it just me or would WC would be crazy to accept that?

    Out: 2, Rioli

    In: 8, 10-15 

    Values rioli at nothing essentially. 

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      On 05/10/2022 at 07:44, Pennant St Dee said:

    We are interested in him,  Tim Lamb watched him live and he has been spoken to by us.

    He has been on our radar since last season 

    Makes sense. Seems to fit the competitive animal mould, has positional flexibility so can start out as a defender at AFL level.

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      On 05/10/2022 at 07:54, Pennant St Dee said:

    Rueban won’t go Top 10 IMO, Busslinger will be the first WA boy picked

    Ah my bad, I was referring to Cadman rather than Ginbey. I do recall you mentioning earlier in the year about us talking to Ginbey prior to the champs. Our talent spotters really are on the ball.

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      On 05/10/2022 at 07:56, mmwd6 said:

    Is it just me or would WC would be crazy to accept that?

    Out: 2, Rioli

    In: 8, 10-15 

    Values rioli at nothing essentially. 

     

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    I still can’t see how Freo can give us an acceptable deal for LJ. This will drag right out into next week 

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      On 05/10/2022 at 08:18, Sir Why You Little said:

    I still can’t see how Freo can give us an acceptable deal for LJ. This will drag right out into next week 

    It is amusing that given how much this trade was talked about in the lead up to trade week, it feels all but forgotten in trade week. 

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      On 05/10/2022 at 07:10, Lucifers Hero said:

    How on God's earth is JHF worth pick 2!!!

    Then what is LJ worth...

    Thats what I don't get. LJ was a highly speculative pick at 3 yet he has excelled with an excellent CV. Almost universally predicted to be a 10 year superstar.

    JHF? Really? A muppet that needs to grow up

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      On 05/10/2022 at 08:19, CYB said:

    It is amusing that given how much this trade was talked about in the lead up to trade week, it feels all but forgotten in trade week. 

    Yes indeed. Freo have no decent currency 

    Do they expect the deal to just happen?

    Would LJ play another 1-2 years with us if Freo cannot come up with a suitable Trade??

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      On 05/10/2022 at 08:19, jnrmac said:

    Thats what I don't get. LJ was a highly speculative pick at 3 yet he has excelled with an excellent CV. Almost universally predicted to be a 10 year superstar.

    JHF? Really? A muppet that needs to grow up

    Jackson has a lot of growing up to do too. He’s a big talent but a lot of its potential as well. He’s has a cruisy start playing back up to Max. Has a heap of work to become the ruck/midfielder he can be.

    JHF is a top flight midfielder/forward, the most valuable role in the game. Had a stinker of year in a disaster or a club but he’s still got next Danger, next Tracc type player written all over him. Port are getting a steal if it’s 8 and a moderate future first. 

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      On 05/10/2022 at 06:30, Lord Nev said:

    Can't see how they get Bruhn then. Pick 18 won't cut it, and you wouldn't accept their future first given it could be the same pick.

    GWS are loaded with picks and won’t use all of them. They will take 18. I think from memory they have 3, 12, 15, 19 already in first round. 18 would give them 5 and then  Hopper picks to come. 

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      On 05/10/2022 at 08:23, Sir Why You Little said:

    Yes indeed. Freo have no decent currency 

    Do they expect the deal to just happen?

    Would LJ play another 1-2 years with us if Freo cannot come up with a suitable Trade??

    A trade will be done, whether its suitable or not. He's already moved back to WA. We're not going to let him walk, so we'll just be going with whoever offers us the best out of freo or WC. At least he has the decency to let us get the better of two options. 

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      On 05/10/2022 at 08:41, mmwd6 said:

    A trade will be done, whether its suitable or not. He's already moved back to WA. We're not going to let him walk, so we'll just be going with whoever offers us the best out of freo or WC. At least he has the decency to let us get the better of two options. 

    Yes I know all that. But we have already said that we expect Top 10 Picks in return. Freo are nowhere near that. 

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      On 05/10/2022 at 08:49, Sir Why You Little said:

    Yes I know all that. But we have already said that we expect Top 10 Picks in return. Freo are nowhere near that. 

    WC could be though. And plenty of times clubs don't get their desired return, especially when the player is out of contract. The clubs will reach a compromise. 

    Jeremy Cameron went for 13, 15, 20 with two second round picks (32, 35) coming back. He was a proven player and a 9x leading goal kicker for the giants. I think LJ trade could be similar to that, except I think 15 turns into a top 10 pick next year instead. 

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      On 05/10/2022 at 08:38, Redleg said:

    GWS are loaded with picks and won’t use all of them. They will take 18. I think from memory they have 3, 12, 15, 19 already in first round. 18 would give them 5 and then  Hopper picks to come. 

    Having lots of picks doesn't mean you accept unders in a deal though. Bruhn was pick 12, pick 18 isn't equitable.

     

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