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Good story, love the way he looks to inspire and define where the team should focus.

Didn't shy away from the pressure - didn't protect them from it - counter intuitive to a the dinosaurs that won't to 'keep the players focussed and not distracted.'

Wonder what it will be next year.

Rd 1 at the G with the unveiling will be huge. 

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4 minutes ago, rpfc said:

Good story, love the way he looks to inspire and define where the team should focus.

Didn't shy away from the pressure - didn't protect them from it - counter intuitive to a the dinosaurs that won't to 'keep the players focussed and not distracted.'

Wonder what it will be next year.

Rd 1 at the G with the unveiling will be huge. 

If he gets us up to go back to back, particularly after this season and the celebrations that are still to come for the playing group, he will quite rightly be recognised as one of our best ever coaches.

What a turnaround.

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33 minutes ago, faultydet said:

If he gets us up to go back to back, particularly after this season and the celebrations that are still to come for the playing group, he will quite rightly be recognised as one of our best ever coaches.

What a turnaround.

Because our success was so concentrated - 10 flags in 24 years - he is already top 3...

Tough to get into the top 2 though; one drove in 4 flags and literally renamed the club, and the other won 6 and has a medal for performance in GFs named after him!

As for the turnaround - you never know entirely what goes on inside football clubs and what the players need or will inspire them - but the board stuck fat with him when I am sure they could have mounted pressure or done you-know-what...

But Roffey and co. were as quietly confident as Goodwin was when he spoke to Mike Sheahan down in Sorrento...

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1 hour ago, faultydet said:

So Goodwin believes in "energy healing"?

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Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater I always say.

There's lessons to be taken from everything. I think the most important thing is Goodwin started to depend on others more (whether that's his support network, or Mark Williams/Adem Yze), and that mindset change flowed through to the players, so that everyone was part of a bigger whole and could spread the load instead of trying to do everything alone.

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Honest reflection on how stressful these jobs are when losing and not meeting expectations. Must be incredibly hard to destress when you're a public figure and the week to week grind is so time and energy consuming.

The energy healer isn't really my cup of tea but mindfulness and reflection are so important to know yourself and know what you need to provide to your colleagues.

There must also be a lot of stress lifted when you're a premiership coach too. Goody now joins Chris Scott (with the aura fading on that one), Longmire, Bevo, Hardwick and Simpson as the only active premiership coaches next year. 

Also I like the way we've pretty much just copied most of Richmond's culture and game style but it hasn't felt like a bad imitation. We've made it our own. It seems a lot of the changes have happened somewhat organically. Goody has turned things around. A female President has taken over. We added valuable assistants. The players bought in to selfless acts. The defensive system, pace, pressure all hallmarks but all our own way rather than desperately shoehorning things in. Clearly we've looked at what they've done and aimed to be similar but then made the organic changes to get there.

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23 minutes ago, Chook said:

Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater I always say.

There's lessons to be taken from everything. I think the most important thing is Goodwin started to depend on others more (whether that's his support network, or Mark Williams/Adem Yze), and that mindset change flowed through to the players, so that everyone was part of a bigger whole and could spread the load instead of trying to do everything 

Snake oil salesmen have something for everyone.

 

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12 minutes ago, rpfc said:

As for the turnaround - you never know entirely what goes on inside football clubs and what the players need or will inspire them - but the board stuck fat with him when I am sure they could have mounted pressure or done you-know-what...

 

The AFL get kicked a lot and rightfully so, but the footy department cap has to go down as one of the greatest rule changes I can think of.

The big spending teams - Coll, Hawthorn, Geel, West Coast, even Sydney and Brisbane that invested a lot in the early 00's were winning all the flags and were a mile ahead when it came to drafting, fitness, development coaching and so on. Now the Dogs, Dees and Richmond (before reaching full powerhouse off field level) have all won flags.

The Bailey days particularly, but also the Neeld times, were a direct reaction to what happens when instead of even a playing field from 200-2007 you have clubs spending millions more on their footy department whilst we had Neale Daniher and the possums at Junction running the show. Once Neale couldn't keep it together any more we were in a huge hole.

And there was no disincentive to sacking a coach either. Sure you had to pay them but you could lean on influential members who loved a good sacking to chip in some cash and go hire someone else. The cap punishment for sacking someone is now so strong it makes teams stop listening to the peanuts in the cheap (or very expensive) seats and start fixing their issues. And members are coming around to that view as well which is promising. They're starting to question clubs rather than just blaming it all on a coach. Even some Carlton members had some sympathy for Teague!

Without the footy cap I'm not sure we keep Goody. I'm not sure we sign Yze - the Hawks probably just chip in to keep him. And surely we don't get Burgo who probably takes top dollar at a big club who can easily afford to fit him in and move on whoever they had. 

 

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Is Goody's humility and willingness to adapt and hand over agency to his coaching group his strength?

It is hard to know exactly what goes on inside the footy group, but I wonder if this is a key.  

How much influence has Yze had over the midfield structure? And how much agency did he have to operate?

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52 minutes ago, Stretch Johnson said:

Is Goody's humility and willingness to adapt and hand over agency to his coaching group his strength?

It is hard to know exactly what goes on inside the footy group, but I wonder if this is a key.  

How much influence has Yze had over the midfield structure? And how much agency did he have to operate?

I believe that was one of the reasons Goodwin decided to coach from the boundary a la Norm Smith, I have heard that with all the people in the coaches box stats people and coaches your head is full of distracting noise from these people and when your team is in trouble clear thinking is a necessity so you can give clear instructions to players going on to the field and relate to players coming off.

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8 hours ago, durango said:

 

I believe that was one of the reasons Goodwin decided to coach from the boundary a la Norm Smith, I have heard that with all the people in the coaches box stats people and coaches your head is full of distracting noise from these people and when your team is in trouble clear thinking is a necessity so you can give clear instructions to players going on to the field and relate to players coming off.

Good observation durango. 
Seeing Goodwin on the bench calmly chatting to players as they interchange, without the antics we see from some in the box (🙀😮for one), shows complete confidence in his lieutenants to convey what is important but without the constant static.  

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I love seeing Goody on the boundary where he can connect with the players and watch the game with a different feel and involvement than sitting in the box with a large group of statisticians and assistants. I have never liked seeing coaches sitting in the box constantly barking orders down a phone to players via runners and assistants.

The footy dept and specifically the coaches appear to be calm and deliberate and comfortable working together. Goody and Chocko are different but at the same time complimentary. Adem Yze, working alongside Goody seems happy with the opportunity to weave some magic. Quite possibly Goody has given more scope to Yze than Clarko. Alan Richardson had a point to prove after the Saints and has a calm reassuring manner and footy smarts. There are no big egos and success has allowed the coaching group to flourish. A little like the players, perhaps the coaches have been prepared to sacrifice some of their own style and ideas for the benefit of the group. 

Now the club has climbed the mountain, what next? Clearly Goody will stay long-term but it will be interesting to see what happens to the wider group beyond 2022.  

No doubt there will be changes along the way and some disappointments. Hopefully, 2021 has established  a blueprint for on-going success over the next 5 years. 

 

 

 

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I wonder which came first.  Roffey saying to Goodwin 'you are a good man, the players love you, be yourself'  Or using the 'This is Me' song at the club.  Either way it is a beautiful and powerful song.

I can imagine a lot of motivational work for players was combined with hearing that song during the year.  Perhaps each player finding something different and unique within themselves to draw on.  

During the finals several times Goodwin was asked what advice he had given players.  Response:  'Be yourself'  It seemed odd at the time but it now makes sense.  Almost as if it was code for the each player to draw on what they had found within.  

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Great Clip. I hadn’t seen that before. Totally unrelated to Football, but very similar. The Boys have to perform under intense pressure with a huge audience, watching closely…

”Be Yourself…..”

Back to Back lads, they’ve all got to catch us…

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Goodwin had his criticism over the years, some justified, some not.

But the most important thing is that he never lost the players. They would always back him 100% in interviews and you could tell it was genuine.

Unlike like the Carlton players where you can tell straight away they didn’t support the coach (Ratten - Malthouse - Bolton - Teague) even though they come out and publicly back them.

Reminds me of Hardwick early on - he had a lot of criticism of his game style, but you could tell the players loved him.

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1 minute ago, tincan said:

Goodwin had his criticism over the years, some justified, some not.

But the most important thing is that he never lost the players. They would always back him 100% in interviews and you could tell it was genuine.

Unlike like the Carlton players where you can tell straight away they didn’t support the coach (Ratten - Malthouse - Bolton - Teague) even though they come out and publicly back them.

Reminds me of Hardwick early on - he had a lot of criticism of his game style, but you could tell the players loved him.

Do they still love Dimma?

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22 hours ago, Stretch Johnson said:

Is Goody's humility and willingness to adapt and hand over agency to his coaching group his strength?

It is hard to know exactly what goes on inside the footy group, but I wonder if this is a key.  

How much influence has Yze had over the midfield structure? And how much agency did he have to operate?

Absolutely a strength. His role is to set the framework under which everyone works and ensure the goals within it are met. This is essentially the game plan and culture. To do this best you need the best under you to implement that framework. It is just like in business, the best bosses and managers are the ones that set a clear line of sight of what is required and then hire the best people and let them use their skills to find the best way to that target.

I get the feeling he was too hands on feeling he needed to do everything for the first few years. Something clicked, probably in a conversation with one of the mentors he speaks of, where he learnt to let go and trust the people he had hired to do their bit. He then just needs to ensure it is all coming together cohesively. I have always got the feeling Clarko is a fair bit the same.

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