dazzledavey36 56,274 Posted July 17, 2021 Posted July 17, 2021 Haven't kicked more goals then points since the Brisbane game. That was 7 weeks ago. Had Brayshaw kicked that goal in the last we win. Simple huh? How are 24/7 fully professional AFL players missing simple goals every single week? Whoever is attempting to teach our blokes to kick goals is doing a horrible job and it's cost us games this year. 7 2 Quote
Dr.D 1,771 Posted July 17, 2021 Posted July 17, 2021 It's because we haven't respected goal kicking accuracy all season or pre-season. We get what we deserve. Why hasn't Picketts routine been improved? He clearly doesn't kick with momentum. Why does Weideman often miss to the right? Why can Fritsch only be reliable snapping? Why does Mcdonald not allow enough space when snapping from a set shot and has had it smothered 3 times in 2 weeks? Quote
Lord Nev 13,512 Posted July 17, 2021 Posted July 17, 2021 Not 100% sure, but think it's still Stafford. 1 Quote
olisik 4,060 Posted July 17, 2021 Posted July 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said: Haven't kicked more goals then points since the Brisbane game. That was 7 weeks ago. Had Brayshaw kicked that goal in the last we win. Simple huh? How are 24/7 fully professional AFL players missing simple goals every single week? Whoever is attempting to teach our blokes to kick goals is doing a horrible job and it's cost us games this year. Not sure we even have a forward coach, unless I am wrong. Quote
Lord Nev 13,512 Posted July 17, 2021 Posted July 17, 2021 1 minute ago, olisik said: Not sure we even have a forward coach, unless I am wrong. https://www.melbournefc.com.au/teams/afl/coaches/greg-stafford Quote
Jaded No More 68,976 Posted July 17, 2021 Posted July 17, 2021 Few teams would have the financial luxury of a goal kicking coach after the brutal budget cuts as a result of Covid. We do however have Mark Williams. Surely he can fix this debacle? 3 1 Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,677 Posted July 17, 2021 Posted July 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said: Haven't kicked more goals then points since the Brisbane game. That was 7 weeks ago. Had Brayshaw kicked that goal in the last we win. Simple huh? How are 24/7 fully professional AFL players missing simple goals every single week? Whoever is attempting to teach our blokes to kick goals is doing a horrible job and it's cost us games this year. Absolutely. It might kill our season. Simply knew Pickett and Brayshaw would miss. Kick either and we win. Simple shots straight in front. Too many misses in too many games now. 2 1 Quote
dazzledavey36 56,274 Posted July 17, 2021 Author Posted July 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Lord Nev said: https://www.melbournefc.com.au/teams/afl/coaches/greg-stafford Argh.. Matthew Lloyd was rejected by St Kilda when Max King reached out to him for help around his goal kicking. Surely the club reaches out to Lloydy and ask the question? Can't be missing simple shots come finals. 2 2 Quote
layzie 34,528 Posted July 17, 2021 Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) I don’t know but we need a better one. It is a basic fun-da-mental of the game. Bad kicking is bad football that is not a good debate topic it is cast iron fact. Get it right Melbourne. Edited July 17, 2021 by layzie 5 1 Quote
Lord Nev 13,512 Posted July 17, 2021 Posted July 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said: Argh.. Matthew Lloyd was rejected by St Kilda when Max King reached out to him for help around his goal kicking. Surely the club reaches out to Lloydy and ask the question? Can't be missing simple shots come finals. Yep, been saying for a while now there should be heat on Stafford. Been at the club for nearly ten years, maybe time to move on. It's not just the goal kicking, but the forward structure too. Once again tonight everyone just standing in packs. 3 1 Quote
Dr.D 1,771 Posted July 17, 2021 Posted July 17, 2021 why start this thread now. Our kicking has been [censored] all year. but it's been a dealt the last 6 weeks. Quote
Fork 'em 7,052 Posted July 17, 2021 Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) This guy. Edited July 17, 2021 by Fork 'em 2 4 Quote
dee-tox 4,835 Posted July 17, 2021 Posted July 17, 2021 Has been atrocious all year. AFL standard players should not be regularly missing from 35 metres. 1 Quote
monoccular 17,758 Posted July 17, 2021 Posted July 17, 2021 21 minutes ago, Lord Nev said: Yep, been saying for a while now there should be heat on Stafford. Been at the club for nearly ten years, maybe time to move on. It's not just the goal kicking, but the forward structure too. Once again tonight everyone just standing in packs. We have a forward structure??? Reminds me of under 10 B team - everyone going for the ball not trusting their teammates. 1 Quote
Bring-Back-Powell 15,529 Posted July 17, 2021 Posted July 17, 2021 What hope do we have when Ben brown joins the party, missing a set shot from 30. He kicked set shots from 30 in his sleep for North. 2 Quote
Earl Hood 6,167 Posted July 17, 2021 Posted July 17, 2021 Wasn’t Choco doing a lot of goal kicking work early in the season? It’s not working and is costing us games. Set shots from inside 35m and on slight angles should be 80/20 accuracy for professionals yet it is more like 30/70 in some games. Brown was a very accurate set shot pre Melbourne, now he is 50/50 at best. 1 Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,677 Posted July 17, 2021 Posted July 17, 2021 24 minutes ago, Lord Nev said: Yep, been saying for a while now there should be heat on Stafford. Been at the club for nearly ten years, maybe time to move on. It's not just the goal kicking, but the forward structure too. Once again tonight everyone just standing in packs. Agree. Heat now on. Perhaps seek out a Carey or Lloyd or Brereton. Even just as a consultant in the short term. Quote
Stiff Arm 4,419 Posted July 17, 2021 Posted July 17, 2021 The forward entries were horrific tonight as well. The Hawks pressure and positioning was very good. Lucky a few Frost-balls helped us out. Quote
Fork 'em 7,052 Posted July 17, 2021 Posted July 17, 2021 16 minutes ago, dee-tox said: Has been atrocious all year. AFL standard players should not be regularly missing from 35 metres. Has been atrocious for far longer than that. Quote
Go the Biff 3,474 Posted July 17, 2021 Posted July 17, 2021 Same bloke who's delivered our poxy F50 strategy - that being all the talls run to the one spot & we kick it on their heads 2 1 Quote
Demon Jack 7,194 Posted July 17, 2021 Posted July 17, 2021 This isn't just us, this has spread throughout the competition like wildfire. During one of the earlier game's today, one of the commentator's mentioned that goal kicking accuracy is currently at an all time low, and we're talking 150 years of VFL/AFL football. Quote
Fork 'em 7,052 Posted July 17, 2021 Posted July 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Go the Biff said: Same bloke who's delivered our poxy F50 strategy - that being all the talls run to the one spot & we kick it on their heads Problem is we have no-one who can deliver an accurate low spearing pass. Not even Salem. Got a midfield of Hail Mary specialists. 3 Quote
Go the Biff 3,474 Posted July 17, 2021 Posted July 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, Fork 'em said: Problem is we have no-one who can deliver an accurate low spearing pass. Not even Salem. Got a midfield of Hail Mary specialists. Agreed. But we've got some who can put it out in front of a leading player. I get the whole "everyone leads to the right pocket & if we don't mark it we can trap it inside 50" thing. But if I'm running forward with the ball, I'd like at least a couple of options Quote
Fork 'em 7,052 Posted July 17, 2021 Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Go the Biff said: Agreed. But we've got some who can put it out in front of a leading player. I get the whole "everyone leads to the right pocket & if we don't mark it we can trap it inside 50" thing. But if I'm running forward with the ball, I'd like at least a couple of options Spargo seems to be the only one. But he just don't get it enough. And I don't get the pocket thing at all. Annoys me no end. Put it out the top of the square and give the crumbers half a chance. Edited July 17, 2021 by Fork 'em Quote
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