Jump to content

CHANGES: Rd 15 vs Essendon

titan_uranus
titan_uranus
in Melbourne Demons

Featured Replies

13 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

We might be better off with one of Brown or Weid come finals, but I think it's clear Weid needs a spell and Brown can't come back in on no form or games. 

Let's get our pressure game back on track then work out if we need the extra tall. There's still a long way left in the season

Weideman has no form either and he's played the games

 
1 minute ago, FritschyBusiness said:

Weideman has no form either and he's played the games

He was selected due to his good VFL form though, Brown doesn't have that atm. That's the point.

 

    • Thanks 1
    Just now, Lord Nev said:

    He was selected due to his good VFL form though, Brown doesn't have that atm. That's the point.

     

    The VFL form was 7-8 weeks ago and now he's had 5 games of no impact at AFL, that's the point.

    • Like 4
     
    4 hours ago, Deemania since 56 said:

    Petty should be trained as the backup forward.

    I would rather Mitch Brown than Petty

    • Like 1
    8 minutes ago, FritschyBusiness said:

    The VFL form was 7-8 weeks ago and now he's had 5 games of no impact at AFL, that's the point.

    No mate, you're still missing the point.

    Weid was originally selected off the back of good VFL form. He'll likely now be dropped as he hasn't performed.

    Brown hasn't earned a game with his VFL form yet.


    4 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

    No mate, you're still missing the point.

    Weid was originally selected off the back of good VFL form. He'll likely now be dropped as he hasn't performed.

    Brown hasn't earned a game with his VFL form yet.

    Hard to earn a VFL game on form when they aren’t playing at the moment. What I can tell you is that over many seasons at AFL level Ben Brown has proven himself as one of the better forwards in the completion. Meanwhile, the Weid has been average at best. 

    • Like 1
    1 minute ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

    Hard to earn a VFL game on form when they aren’t playing at the moment. What I can tell you is that over many seasons at AFL level Ben Brown has proven himself as one of the better forwards in the completion. Meanwhile, the Weid has been average at best. 

    Sure, no one would argue Brown isn't a more proven player, but you pick the team on current form not form from a couple of years ago.

    Just now, Lord Nev said:

    Sure, no one would argue Brown isn't a more proven player, but you pick the team on current form not form from a couple of years ago.

    Current form of Weideman at AFL levels suggests that he isn’t up to it, so you give the next bloke in line a go. It’s a COVID impacted season and your old school rules of selection don’t apply. Accept that and move on

    • Like 1
     
    Just now, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

    Current form of Weideman at AFL levels suggests that he isn’t up to it, so you give the next bloke in line a go. It’s a COVID impacted season and your old school rules of selection don’t apply. Accept that and move on

    "Old school rules"... I think you'll find players still get picked on present form, COVID or not. That form might be training form, practice match form or VFL form, but it's still how it's done. If we start picking the team based on performances from 2 years ago then we're in trouble.

    I agree on current form Weid will likely be dropped, but Brown wasn't even named as an emergency so that should give you some insight into how the selection committee rate his current available form.

    I don't need to "accept" your opinion when it's not aligned with the facts.

    2 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

    "Old school rules"... I think you'll find players still get picked on present form, COVID or not. That form might be training form, practice match form or VFL form, but it's still how it's done. If we start picking the team based on performances from 2 years ago then we're in trouble.

    I agree on current form Weid will likely be dropped, but Brown wasn't even named as an emergency so that should give you some insight into how the selection committee rate his current available form.

    I don't need to "accept" your opinion when it's not aligned with the facts.

    I don’t have to accept yours either and if you read through this thread, most posters are in disagreement with you.

    how do you know what Brown’s track form is like? You’ve assumed he hasn’t been training well enough..based on??

     


    Just now, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

    I don’t have to accept yours either and if you read through this thread, most posters are in disagreement with you.

    how do you know what Brown’s track form is like? You’ve assumed he hasn’t been training well enough..based on??

     

    Based on the fact he wasn't picked in the squad for the game on the weekend.

    Pretty simple.

    8 minutes ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

    I don’t have to accept yours either and if you read through this thread, most posters are in disagreement with you.

    how do you know what Brown’s track form is like? You’ve assumed he hasn’t been training well enough..based on??

     

    The fact that Mitch Brown was named first emergency, and in stand by for Tom McDonald if he had to shoot off for his wife's birth.

    Pretty self explanatory..

    Edited by dazzledavey36

    • Like 2

    In his post game conference Goodwin named Jones, Vandenberg, Melksham and Jetta as players who've been in strong form in the match simulation trainings.

    Also confirmed Viney will be ready as well. Will play in the match simulation/intra club next Saturday. 

    Edited by dazzledavey36

    • Thanks 1
    20 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

    "Old school rules"... I think you'll find players still get picked on present form, COVID or not. That form might be training form, practice match form or VFL form, but it's still how it's done. If we start picking the team based on performances from 2 years ago then we're in trouble.

    I agree on current form Weid will likely be dropped, but Brown wasn't even named as an emergency so that should give you some insight into how the selection committee rate his current available form.

    I don't need to "accept" your opinion when it's not aligned with the facts.

    to this point, various interviews on the website suggest Ben Brown is training extremely strongly, looking much more aggressive and moving much more freely, i believe it was Richo? who said that. so with that in mind i don't think Ben Browns form as such is an issue for his selection, it'll be more to do with if they think Weid is filling the role they've got him there for, or not. 

    • Like 1

    The Weid's confidence is shot. BB had an interrupted 2020 due to injury and missed the preseason. He's not fit enough. It ain't looking good for either this year. We coped very well without them early in the year and can do so again. I won't be surprised if we revert to our early season forward set-up for Essendon

     

     

     


    2 minutes ago, Dwight Schrute said:

    to this point, various interviews on the website suggest Ben Brown is training extremely strongly, looking much more aggressive and moving much more freely, i believe it was Richo? who said that. so with that in mind i don't think Ben Browns form as such is an issue for his selection, it'll be more to do with if they think Weid is filling the role they've got him there for, or not. 

    I think everyone seems to be making false equivalencies here.

    Weid coming out doesn't automatically mean Ben Brown comes in. It doesn't even necessarily mean Mitch Brown comes in.

    12 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    In his post game conference Goodwin named Jones, Vandenberg, Melksham and Jetta as players who've been in strong form in the match simulation trainings.

    Also confirmed Viney will be ready as well. Will play in the match simulation/intra club next Saturday. 

    Will be a very interesting match sim to watch, there will be some players with a point to prove.

    Unfortunately, the list of Jones, Vandenberg, Melksham and Jetta does not provide a noticeable and immediate improvement over the group from the weekend. 

    44 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

    No mate, you're still missing the point.

    Weid was originally selected off the back of good VFL form. He'll likely now be dropped as he hasn't performed.

    Brown hasn't earned a game with his VFL form yet.

    Looks like @Dwight Schrute went in to bat for me so I wont argue/repeat the same points. 

    I really like Sam, this is the first time I've thought we should drop him because he hasn't done enough. He has been invisible for weeks and either M or B Brown would be better in the team right now

    Hope you both have a great day fellas

    • Like 1

    Someone mentioned BBB is going through a 6 week pre season to improve some fitness/strength aspects. I’d love to know how far along this is. I think about 5-6 weeks now? He might be close ….

    2 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

    Someone mentioned BBB is going through a 6 week pre season to improve some fitness/strength aspects. I’d love to know how far along this is. I think about 5-6 weeks now? He might be close ….

    Weid has played 5 in row plus the bye. Brown’s ready if that is the case.


    3 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

    I think everyone seems to be making false equivalencies here.

    Weid coming out doesn't automatically mean Ben Brown comes in. It doesn't even necessarily mean Mitch Brown comes in.

    Agree with that - I'm a bit surprised there's been no mention of Daw getting a chance. At least he wouldn't get brushed aside like a feather. Our forward line was bereft of any real physical strength yesterday with perhaps TMac as the exception but he failed to have much of an impact 

    Fritta lucky that Weid was so poor otherwise he'd be in the firing line too - he really struggled 

    I like Sparrow and think he might make it but he needs to realise that he is not the Incredible Hulk and cant brush off tackles  

    Out Weid, Sparrow

    In Viney, (Daw or M Brown)

    11 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

    I think everyone seems to be making false equivalencies here.

    Weid coming out doesn't automatically mean Ben Brown comes in. It doesn't even necessarily mean Mitch Brown comes in.

    It doesn't, but senior figures of the club have said they expect 3 key forwards to be a thing we stick with throughout the year, so i suspect if Weid goes out he'll likely be replaced with a tall. 

    However as you point out, nothing is guaranteed. i don't mind the idea of going smaller. Jackson, TMac and Fritsch are 3 good marking targets

    1 minute ago, Sydee said:

    Agree with that - I'm a bit surprised there's been no mention of Daw getting a chance. At least he wouldn't get brushed aside like a feather. Our forward line was bereft of any real physical strength yesterday with perhaps TMac as the exception but he failed to have much of an impact 

    Fritta lucky that Weid was so poor otherwise he'd be in the firing line too - he really struggled 

    I like Sparrow and think he might make it but he needs to realise that he is not the Incredible Hulk and cant brush off tackles  

    Out Weid, Sparrow

    In Viney, (Daw or M Brown)

    Daw was a fringe player in a side with the worst list in the competition so he isn't going to play too many matches in a side near the top of the ladder.

    The thing about BBB is he is going to compete particularly in the air and he haven't had that with Weed, Moore stood and outworked him rather than trying to munch a couple of times last night so saw him as no real threat.

     
    1 minute ago, Dwight Schrute said:

    It doesn't, but senior figures of the club have said they expect 3 key forwards to be a thing we stick with throughout the year, so i suspect if Weid goes out he'll likely be replaced with a tall. 

    However as you point out, nothing is guaranteed. i don't mind the idea of going smaller. Jackson, TMac and Fritsch are 3 good marking targets

    Yep fair point, but I believe it's been mentioned they consider Fritsch as a tall. (I think it might have been Gawn that said that a couple of weeks ago but not 100% sure). Potentially they could go with TMac, Fritsch and then Gawn & Jackson rotating, similar to the first few rounds. It's a tough one, and we've had 3 different forward setups this year role wise so I don't think they've fully settled on it tbh.

    1 hour ago, Rusty Nails said:

    At some stage in a winning team you have to start clicking and performing consistently BA.  How long do you want to give to see if he's in form and slotting in fine?  Surely if he is he hits on at least one or two of those chances.

    Brown was playing well though, the Carlton game being the exception. Both Brown and Weideman struggled that game

    • Like 2

    Guest
    This topic is now closed to further replies.
    Go to topic listing

    Featured Content

    • FEATURE: 1925

      A hundred years ago today, on 2 May 1925, Melbourne kicked off the new season with a 47 point victory over St Kilda to take top place on the VFL ladder after the opening round of the new season.  Top place was a relatively unknown position for the team then known as the “Fuchsias.” They had finished last in 1923 and rose by only one place in the following year although the final home and away round heralded a promise of things to come when they surprised the eventual premiers Essendon. That victory set the stage for more improvement and it came rapidly. In this series, I will tell the story of how the 1925 season unfolded for the Melbourne Football Club and how it made the VFL finals for the first time in a decade on the way to the ultimate triumph a year later.

        • Thanks
      • 0 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • PREVIEW: West Coast

      Saturday’s election night game in Perth between the West Coast Eagles and Melbourne represents 18th vs 15th which makes it a tough decision as to which party to favour. The Eagles have yet to break the ice under their new coach in Andrew McQualter who is the second understudy in a row to confront Demon Coach Simon Goodwin who was also winless until a fortnight ago. On that basis, many punters might be considering to go with the donkey vote but I’ve been assigned with the task of helping readers to come to a considered opinion on this matter of vital importance across the nation. It was almost a year ago that I wrote a preview here of the Demons’ away game against the Eagles (under the name William from Waalitj because it was Indigenous Round).  I issued a warning that it was a danger game, based on my local knowledge that the home team were no longer easybeats and that they possessed a wunderkind generational player in Harley Reid who was capable of producing stellar performances playing among men a decade and more older than he.  At the time, the Eagles already had two wins off the back of a couple of the young man’s masterclasses and they had recently given the Bombers a scare straight after their Anzac Day blockbuster draw against the then reigning premiers.

        • Thanks
        • Like
      • 1 reply
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • NON-MFC: Round 08

      Round 08 of the 2025 AFL Season kicks off on Thursday with a must-win game for the Bombers to stay in touch with the top eight, while the struggling Roos seek a morale-boosting upset. Friday sees the Saints desperate for a win as well if they are to stay in finals contention and their opponents the Dockers will be eager to crack in to the Top 8 with a win on the road. Saturday kicks off with a pivotal clash for both sides asthe Bulldogs look to solidify their top-eight spot, while Port seeks to shake their pretender tag. Then the Crows will be looking to steady their topsy turvy season against a resurgent Blues looking to make it 4 wins on the trot. On Election Night a Blockbuster will see the ladder-leading Pies take on the Cats, who are keen to bounce back after a narrow loss. On Sunday the Sydney Derby promises fireworks as the Giants aim to cement their top-eight status, while the Swans fight to keep their season alive. The Hawks, celebrating their centenary, will be looking to easily account for the Tigers who are desperate to halt their slide. The Round concludes on Sunday Night with a top end of the table QClash with significant ladder implications; both Queensland teams are in scintillating form. Who are you tipping this week and what are the best results for the Demons?

      • 66 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • PREGAME: West Coast

      The Demons hit the road in Round 8, heading to Perth to face the West Coast Eagles at Optus Stadium. With momentum building, the Dees will be aiming for a third straight victory to keep their season revival on course. Who comes in and who goes out?

        • Thanks
      • 492 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • REPORT: Richmond

      The fans who turned up to the MCG for Melbourne’s Anzac Day Eve clash against Richmond would have been disappointed if they turned up to see a great spectacle. As much as this was a night for the 71,635 in attendance to commemorate heroes of the nation’s past wars, it was also a time for the Melbourne Football Club to consolidate upon its first win after a horrific start to the 2025 season. On this basis, despite the fact that it was an uninspiring and dour struggle for most of its 100 minutes, the night will be one for the fans to remember. They certainly got value out of the pre match activity honouring those who fought for their country. The MCG and the lights of the city as backdrop was made for nights such as these and, in my view, we received a more inspirational ceremony of Anzac culture than others both here and elsewhere around the country. 

        • Love
        • Thanks
        • Like
      • 0 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • CASEY: Richmond

      The match up of teams competing in our great Aussie game at its second highest level is a rarity for a work day Thursday morning but the blustery conditions that met the players at a windswept Casey Fields was something far more commonplace.They turned the opening stanza between the Casey Demons and a somewhat depleted Richmond VFL into a mess of fumbling unforced errors, spilt marks and wasted opportunities for both sides but they did set up a significant win for the home team which is exactly what transpired on this Anzac Day round opener. Casey opened up strong against the breeze with the first goal to Aidan Johnson, the Tigers quickly responded and the game degenerated into a defensive slog and the teams were level when the first siren sounded.

        • Clap
        • Thanks
        • Like
      • 0 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland
    View All