1 hour ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Will humour work instead of mandates? Or could it be seen as too condescending?

 

In the US the answer would probably be.

Shoot them All.

On 11/29/2021 at 7:46 PM, bing181 said:

No.

Plenty of studies around like this one showing that "It's likely that for most people vaccination against COVID-19 will induce more effective and longer lasting immunity than that induced by natural infection with the virus."

https://www.immunology.org/coronavirus/connect-coronavirus-public-engagement-resources/covid-immunity-natural-infection-vaccine

(If on the other hand, you can dig out the x26 figure, now's the time.)

 

100% there was a lab technician (works in covid testing labs) that did a social media video and was posted across various platforms, where he tested his antibody levels from immediately after to 6 months after the Pfizer double shot. it was legit as far as i could tell - which isn't saying much. 

When compared against somebody (else) which had Covid (without being vaccinated) , his mRNA induced immunity at month 6 was still double what the natural immune response of said person. 

There are plenty of studies that will back this up and im still surprised that people are shocked when i tell them this, thinking that natural immunity = mRNA induced immunity. 

4 minutes ago, CYB said:

100% there was a lab technician (works in covid testing labs) that did a social media video and was posted across various platforms, where he tested his antibody levels from immediately after to 6 months after the Pfizer double shot. it was legit as far as i could tell - which isn't saying much. 

When compared against somebody (else) which had Covid (without being vaccinated) , his mRNA induced immunity at month 6 was still double what the natural immune response of said person. 

There are plenty of studies that will back this up and im still surprised that people are shocked when i tell them this, thinking that natural immunity = mRNA induced immunity. 

i'm surprised at you cyb. A sample size of 1 compared to a sample size of 1

5 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

i'm surprised at you cyb. A sample size of 1 compared to a sample size of 1

it is just an example - a real life experiment performed live on social media. independent from all the govt sanctioned studies, where the same result was achieved. How is that surprising? 

Just now, CYB said:

it is just an example - a real life experiment performed live on social media. independent from all the govt sanctioned studies, where the same result was achieved. How is that surprising? 

it may sound interesting but is totally meaningless and definitely unscientific

we pretty well know that covid affects people differently. dramatically differently, from being asymptomatic thru to being fatal.

i'm comfortable waiting for proper scientific studies to be published and ignoring the unscientific

and to be clear, i'm 100% in favour of vaccination, no ifs or buts, except for valid medical reasons   

2 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

it may sound interesting but is totally meaningless and definitely unscientific

we pretty well know that covid affects people differently. dramatically differently, from being asymptomatic thru to being fatal.

i'm comfortable waiting for proper scientific studies to be published and ignoring the unscientific

and to be clear, i'm 100% in favour of vaccination, no ifs or buts, except for valid medical reasons   

Could not have said it better dc.

4 hours ago, daisycutter said:

i'm comfortable waiting for proper scientific studies to be published and ignoring the unscientific

There are a number of peer-reviewed studies around comparing immunity between vaxxed and infected.

5 minutes ago, bing181 said:

There are a number of peer-reviewed studies around comparing immunity between vaxxed and infected.

i'm well aware 

all the more reason to not propagate anecdotal unscientific social media stuff 

Still early days but early signs positive that Omicron will be milder than Delta

I like John Campbell a UK medical professional and lecturer. He delivers it straight and unvarnished

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls7zy6_0Z2s

No comment !!

An Italian man is facing charges of fraud after turning up for his Covid-19 vaccine wearing a fake arm.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/03/italian-man-tries-to-dodge-covid-vaccine-wearing-fake-arm

1 hour ago, Diamond_Jim said:

No comment !!

An Italian man is facing charges of fraud after turning up for his Covid-19 vaccine wearing a fake arm.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/03/italian-man-tries-to-dodge-covid-vaccine-wearing-fake-arm

To quote Lou Reed in a song from 'New York': Those I-tallians need a lesson to be taught.

19 hours ago, dieter said:

To quote Lou Reed in a song from 'New York': Those I-tallians need a lesson to be taught.

Earlier this week you quoted Iggy Pop and now it’s Lou Reed. Have you ever considered retiring that quote-well, and instead availing yourself of a different well, one that doesn’t comprise drug-addled has-beens???😉

JK, Dieter. I quote Dr Phil a lot which is arguably worse. 🙂

Edited December 4, 20213 yr by WalkingCivilWar

An EPL game was postponed last night due to 8 players testing positive (Tottenham).

One has to wonder how many players need to test positive before you postpone an AFL game. 

Close contacts are just test and release so it comes down to positive cases. 

3, 5 or perhaps 7. Would it be different if all 5 were backmen for example

Tricky days ahead come March 2022

1 hour ago, Diamond_Jim said:

An EPL game was postponed last night due to 8 players testing positive (Tottenham).

One has to wonder how many players need to test positive before you postpone an AFL game. 

Close contacts are just test and release so it comes down to positive cases. 

3, 5 or perhaps 7. Would it be different if all 5 were backmen for example

Tricky days ahead come March 2022

I think it was postponed as they were new cases each day so they had no idea how many would eventually be positive.

AFL players should enjoy their freedom now as they might have to back in the bubble come the season. which would suck for them

1 hour ago, Diamond_Jim said:

An EPL game was postponed last night due to 8 players testing positive (Tottenham).

One has to wonder how many players need to test positive before you postpone an AFL game. 

Close contacts are just test and release so it comes down to positive cases. 

3, 5 or perhaps 7. Would it be different if all 5 were backmen for example

Tricky days ahead come March 2022

Last season the Denver Broncos lost all their QB’s and were forced to play a receiver at quarterback. Other teams have lost most of a position group and played.

I think the AFL will say as long as you’ve got 22 fit players then you play. But the contact tracing and state rules will be the hurdles there. I doubt every state will be happy with negative tests if the team appears to be in an outbreak.

I think there were games in 2019 when we were without all or most of May, Lever, Jetta, Hibbo and Lewis, pretty much the first choice backline of 2019.

 

I think it's safe to say that leading into finals next year, all teams in contention will be advised to go into some form of self isolation. You'd hate to miss a final because you went to buy pickles and got Covid. 

14 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

I think it's safe to say that leading into finals next year, all teams in contention will be advised to go into some form of self isolation. You'd hate to miss a final because you went to buy pickles and got Covid. 

Shouldn’t be buying pickles anyway.

High in salt.

52 minutes ago, rpfc said:

Shouldn’t be buying pickles anyway.

High in salt.

They drink pickle juice on the bench... helps with cramping apparently.

 

The NHL has been hammered by it now, almost the entire Calgary team and staff have it, multiple other teams have 5+ players/staff with it. Multiple games postponed, multiple players quarantining in cities they don’t love in as they were on road trips and very little leeway to make up games unless they decide to not go to the Olympics. 

Australian Test Captain in covid scare....

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/cummins-in-doubt-for-second-test-after-covid-close-contact-designation-20211216-p59i36.html

 

A COVID-19 scare has caused chaos within the Australian cricket team just hours before the Adelaide Test, with Pat Cummins identified as a close contact of a positive case.

A source with knowledge of the situation has told the Herald and The Age that Australia’s captain was at an Adelaide restaurant on Wednesday evening, with another professional cricketer, when a patron at the next table was identified as a positive COVID-19 case.

1 hour ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Australian Test Captain in covid scare....

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/cummins-in-doubt-for-second-test-after-covid-close-contact-designation-20211216-p59i36.html

 

A COVID-19 scare has caused chaos within the Australian cricket team just hours before the Adelaide Test, with Pat Cummins identified as a close contact of a positive case.

A source with knowledge of the situation has told the Herald and The Age that Australia’s captain was at an Adelaide restaurant on Wednesday evening, with another professional cricketer, when a patron at the next table was identified as a positive COVID-19 case.

50/50 to play?

As it stands this Omitron variant could easily play havoc with the footy season

If we were heading for a squad mentality (across all the clubs) that thinking has just been fast-tracked

Edit: Cummins out

Edited December 16, 20213 yr by Macca

The AFL might have to have a look at creating supplementary lists for the clubs

Say 6-8 players? 

As it stands, injuries alone can decimate any club

Im pretty sure I read in an extract of Maxy's book he said the week of the gf he was avoiding going out because he didn't want to put himself at risk of covid. 

But I know they have to live their lives but it's a risk going out the night before a game. Not only do you have to dodge covid but food poisoning is a risk to. Anyway he will get the quickest covid test ever done. 

So he's out

Interesting that if this had happened in Vic, NSW or Qld (from next week) all he needed to do was test and wait for negative result (assuming it wasn't the dreaded Big O )

1 hour ago, dees189227 said:

Im pretty sure I read in an extract of Maxy's book he said the week of the gf he was avoiding going out because he didn't want to put himself at risk of covid. 

But I know they have to live their lives but it's a risk going out the night before a game. Not only do you have to dodge covid but food poisoning is a risk to. Anyway he will get the quickest covid test ever done. 

Captain out before a crucial test and he’s out at a restaurant.. at least sit out side in an area way from the general public. Strange decision.