1 minute ago, don cordner said:

lol if u believe that story

I like to believe someone is innocent until proven guilty... I have no issue with the story as it stands, but if it is proven otherwise (the club should have CCTV footage or there are no doubt numerous phone vids circulating already), then I will be happy to criticise them.

1 hour ago, Juicebox said:

So... You're allowed to throw a few punches if a girlfriends being harrassed?

Regardless of their success, richmond are trash. Their culture is trash. 

 

1 minute ago, Lord Nev said:

That's not what it said, that's how you took it. See above.

Isn't it?  So whose GF was it that was being harrassed?

Just now, hardtack said:

Isn't it?  So whose GF was it that was being harrassed?

Mate, the Tigers have admitted they were fighting, how do you think Bolton broke his wrist?

5 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

There's plenty of examples over the last few years that indicate their off field culture is poor.

I think you could apply that to just about every club in the comp.

Just now, Lord Nev said:

Mate, the Tigers have admitted they were fighting, how do you think Bolton broke his wrist?

The implication in Juicebox's comment was that the players threw the first punches... maybe this is a case of us seeing what we want to see.

2 hours ago, siam juntaRus said:

Why would AFL players take gf's to a sleazy nightclub? Go to a restaurant with Dustin. I thought they went  to clubs to get picked  up  by groupies ..re  Geelong. Stkilda in past days. Do AFLW girls go to nightclubs? lol

Maybe they don't know how to use chopsticks

How about we wait for the facts to come out before making any assumptions about who was at fault. While I would never advocate male on male violence, isn’t that essentially what we do when the players get into a bit of a melee on the field? And wouldn’t we expect them to “fly the flag” if one of their mates get unfairly knocked out? Why would it then be a surprise if they were to defend their partners from harassment if out and about?

17 minutes ago, hardtack said:

The implication in Juicebox's comment was that the players threw the first punches... maybe this is a case of us seeing what we want to see.

He said "throw some punches", not throw the first punch.

Throw some punches could mean retaliation. 

It is all so stupid anyway.

STAY OUT OF FIGHTS

Too much to lose, including yours or the other person life or health. 

Edited May 10, 20214 yr by kev martin

2 minutes ago, kev martin said:

He said "throw some punches", not throw the first punch.

Throw some punches could mean retaliation. 

It is all so stupid anyway.

STAY OUT OF FIGHTS

Hence my comment “maybe this is a case of us seeing what we want to see.“

Couldn’t agree more with your last statement.

Edited May 10, 20214 yr by hardtack

Who cares! I don’t really see Richmond figuring much in September this year. I think Port, Melbourne, Bulldogs, Swans and Brisbane May have gone past them!

Edited May 10, 20214 yr by Thehardtackler

22 minutes ago, Thehardtackler said:

Who cares! I don’t really see Richmond figuring much in September this year. I think Port, Melbourne, Bulldogs, Swans and Brisbane May have gone past them!

not so fast. i’d love u to be right but imo the tigers are faaaaar from done. 

3 hours ago, siam juntaRus said:

Why would AFL players take gf's to a sleazy nightclub? Go to a restaurant with Dustin. I thought they went  to clubs to get picked  up  by groupies ..re  Geelong. Stkilda in past days. Do AFLW girls go to nightclubs? lol

Yes, been out drinking with AFLW players, predators.

1 hour ago, kev martin said:

He said "throw some punches", not throw the first punch.

Throw some punches could mean retaliation. 

It is all so stupid anyway.

STAY OUT OF FIGHTS

Too much to lose, including yours or the other person life or health. 

I wouldn’t give a [censored] If someone lost their health or life because they harassed my partner or family/friends.

The world is a jungle and if you stick your nose in to other peoples business then you must accept a hospital bed or a pine box. 
If more people remembered this then perhaps there would be less smart arses.

a guy punched my girls [censored] a few years ago. I put him in hospital with a broken ashtray.

im sure he’s more respectful these days 

On a serious note, love the many comments comments about 'walking away' is better, this is different to the vibe that existed even just 20 years ago. I must admit I am far from calm, when someone physically touches a friend or partner in an unwanted manner, and was in a fight when a guy slapped a gf to the head for pushing his arm away, but freely admit there was a better solution than boxing on, to be had.

It is also a thin line between standing up for someone helpless, and a man getting involved in a fight because he feels like his honour was slighted because someone touched his girl. In effect removing the right for a women to exercise her own agency (and also not be treated like property).

5 minutes ago, Fitz Fitzpatrick said:

im sure he’s more respectful these days 

Are you OK?

Seem to be carrying some hate.

That distress won't help your family, friends or yourself.

Get some communication and life skills, perhaps counselling or anger management. 

Violence perpetuates violence, and your victim is probably acting the same way anyway, (I was going to say " now that smoking has been banned").Takes an intellectual/emotional leap to change.

Some men wear the pain as a badge of merit and pride.

Can't change others only yourself.

 

8 hours ago, picket fence said:

 Rule 3 Always defend honour of women

I've got an issue with rule 3.
Some are not so honourable and often trouble making [censored] who revel in any drama they can create.

Edited May 10, 20214 yr by Fork 'em

13 hours ago, picket fence said:

Rule 1 Dont Condemn till you know the full story

Rule 2 Dont attend nightclubs that may or may not draw heat

Rule 3 Always defend honour of women

Rule 4 See rule 1 

 

Always defend the honour of women? Nah don’t love that. If men cared about the honour of ALL women maybe, but that’s not the case. 

Do we think Bolton or Rioli would step in if they saw some random girl being harassed? Not likely. This is about ownership. They should’ve just walked away. 

9 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

There's plenty of examples over the last few years that indicate their off field culture is poor.

One thing is for sure, there are double standards at that Club - one rule for expendables like Connors, Stack and Coleman-Jones and another for required players like Martin, Cotchin, Bolton and Rioli

Edited May 10, 20214 yr by dice

11 hours ago, siam juntaRus said:

Why would AFL players take gf's to a sleazy nightclub? Go to a restaurant with Dustin. I thought they went  to clubs to get picked  up  by groupies ..re  Geelong. Stkilda in past days. Do AFLW girls go to nightclubs? lol

Get the chopsticks out with Dusty hey!

Seems that Rioli's girlfriend was offended by random guys....Rioli tried to put an end to the situation verbally....copped a punch to the face....Bolton jumps in to smack the guy who just assaulted his mate.   Pretty straight forward, i am glad both the guys defended their gf and each other.  Rioli gf is pretty hot, could see her getting unwanted attention.  The issue is many go to nightclubs to get drunk/high or both and not much good seems to happen when it comes to altercations/booze and drugs.

It is much safer to dance at a friends house/home than risk it these days...particularly if you an AFL footy player.  They gotta live, but also make more sensible decisions in regards to their entertainment

Stop advocating for violence or having examples were it is justified. 

The other person doesn't cause you to do it. You do it, it is in your control, no matter what the circumstances. There are always better ways to handle the situation. 

There is emotional, social and physical scaring to you the victim and the bystanders, it should be avoided.at all costs.

Control those primitive urges, nothing good comes of it.

Violence against others, both strangers and domestic is an epidemic in society.

Go get help, so your feelings aren't acted out in an inappropriate way.

 

Edited May 10, 20214 yr by kev martin

If there are tools harassing your partner, report it to security. If they do nothing about it, they obviously don’t want to look after their patrons, so leave.

It’s really, really easy to avoid getting in to fights.

Attitudes like picket’s belong in the 1970s. Defending women’s honour - please. I’m sure Bolton’s girlfriend is stoked he’s got a broken wrist, which he depends on for his livelihood, and a broken reputation now, all in the name of her “honour”.

1 hour ago, Nasher said:

If there are tools harassing your partner, report it to security. If they do nothing about it, they obviously don’t want to look after their patrons, so leave.

It’s really, really easy to avoid getting in to fights.

Attitudes like picket’s belong in the 1970s. Defending women’s honour - please. I’m sure Bolton’s girlfriend is stoked he’s got a broken wrist, which he depends on for his livelihood, and a broken reputation now, all in the name of her “honour”.

Yeah, some things are learnt with experience.
Gotta remember Rioli and Bolton are in their early 20's, young, dumb and full of ... You know what.
Both at peak fitness and would feel bullet proof.
Add in the mix of alcohol, women, nightclubs and other morons it's a recipe for disaster.

 

11 minutes ago, Fork 'em said:

Yeah, some things are learnt with experience.
Gotta remember Rioli and Bolton are in their early 20's, young, dumb and full of ... You know what.
Both at peak fitness and would feel bullet proof.
Add in the mix of alcohol, women, nightclubs and other morons it's a recipe for disaster.

 

Yep, exactly. We were all young and stupid once. I don’t really blame the players at all - I just hope they’ve learned a lesson from it.

It’s the 40 and 50-something men acting as if this was an inevitable/honorable outcome that really presses my buttons. We should be showing young men the right way, not reinforcing boorish, dangerous behaviour.

I wouldnt of thought that defending a womans honour was a thing any more. Let females sort it out for themselves.

Not my problem.

14 minutes ago, Fork 'em said:

Yeah, some things are learnt with experience.
Gotta remember Rioli and Bolton are in their early 20's, young, dumb and full of ... You know what.
Both at peak fitness and would feel bullet proof.
Add in the mix of alcohol, women, nightclubs and other morons it's a recipe for disaster.