POSTGAME: Rd 07 vs North Melbourne

[chookrat 4,268]

2 hours ago, Big Col said:

% is points for / points against x 100
In order to increase percentage we would need to win by a greater amount than our current %. 
Any other result will result in a decrease in %

The longer the season goes on, though, the less impact an individual game will have on % though the principle remains the same.

 

We've come a long way since the days when after an 8 goal loss our percentage went up - Dees ?

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

24 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Yes that is exactly why a lot of people do not understand how % on a week to week basis 

It is true. Some people do not understand percentage.

[Monty Kaufman 44]

Sitting in the stand today, you could tell in the first couple of minutes that we were off. Unsure around the ball and not running hard enough to cut off their outlet kicks.. We were lucky to only be 4 goals down at half time. The extra handball we kept giving was poor, and mixing it up in the midfield didn't stop us getting flogged in the middle.

After half time, our running improved and our skills improved. North did drop off though, and we can't play like that against top 8 teams.. Kozzie live is amazing, and Fritta with his tail up is almost as good.

I never watch us live on TV, and today wasn't enjoyable up until the last 5 minutes when I was confident we weren't going to throw it away.. nice to win at Bellerive, sick of losing there by under a kick..

 

[Redleg 42,052]

11 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

It is true. Some people do not understand percentage.

I agree with you 73% of the time.

67% of people don't understand percentage.

 

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

3 minutes ago, Redleg said:

I agree with you 73% of the time.

67% of people don't understand percentage.

 

Yeah but the other 44% don't

[Demon17 5,231]

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Can someone explain why we went down in percentage on the ladder??

Our % is 150%.

Therefore to keep at the level we need to beat a team by at least 50% of their score.

Today we beat roos by 30 points and they scored 73 points , so winning margin was 41% of the roos score, less than 50%, thus the overall % dipped below starting number of 150%.

Had we won by 50% of 73, which is approx 37 points then % would have stayed the same.

[Gippsland Dee 367]

I think that game shows more than anything else just how poor north actually is. That we were able pretty much to not turn up til after half time and only be 3 goals down, and still win by 5 goals. 
past years we would’ve folded in that situation too. 

[Redleg 42,052]

4 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

Yeah but the other 44% don't

You will find that occurs 59% of the time.

[Demon17 5,231]

1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Yes i am aware of that. But the more games played, the higher the differential must be to keep a high %

Incorrect.  Its all to do with each weeks winning margin and its % relationship to the losers  (the other teams) score in points.

[Deemania since 56 6,774]

6 minutes ago, Redleg said:

I agree with you 73% of the time.

67% of people don't understand percentage.

 

It's very much like the agonists amongst us, and the Filth's supporters who collectively know five-eights of two-fifteenths of far call.

 

 

[Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,669]

3 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

The more games we play, the higher the margins have to be to keep it as high

This post is hilarious, especially when you consider a later post saying how few people understand percentage.

 

Champagne (even if unintended) comedy.

Edited May 2, 2021 by Rod Grinter Riot Squad

[John Crow Batty 8,886]

Never mind %, 100% winning record is better.

[Rab D Nesbitt 8,823]

1 hour ago, Engorged Onion said:

Rab - this is what good teams do... play like $hite and then go on to win... it's a [censored] weird feeling eh.

You're right of course EO. It really gives you perspective. I'm now thinking of all the horrible five goal wins Hawthorn fans have had to endure in recent years. Thanks, I feel better already. 

[Fanatique Demon 2,695]

23 minutes ago, Jaded said:

I understand he is a very very good user of the footy, but he’s also selfish and lazy.

There is a lot of talk about Melksham.  Separately there is a lot of talk about playing one’s role...

Everyone is in the team to play their role. Melksham’s role is delivery to a player who can kick a goal or kick goals himself. Yes, it would be better if he tackled more ferociously. But that is not his primary role.

Drop him for not finding a target or kicking goals? Sure, that makes sense. But dropping Melksham for not tackling well or often enough would be like dropping Frisch for not taking intercept marks.

 

[kev martin 10,737]

The percentage is accumulative, over the home and away season.

Points for divided by points against. (Multiplied by 100)

Number of games won or lost is irrelevant. 

Edited May 2, 2021 by kev martin

[Monocology 1,109]

T-Mac defended reasonably well today but fear his inability to quickly get ball to boot* just won't work down there long term against strong sides.

My MFCSS's were reactivated there today but we're far more composed - I just need more time.

*Interchange with boot to ball if required

Edited May 2, 2021 by Monocology

[Deemania since 56 6,774]

3 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

It's very much like the agonists amongst us, and the Filth's supporters who collectively know five-eights of two-fifteenths of far call.

 

 

The first person who suggests I am talking about 1/12th wins the daily prize.So if you round that to 3 decimal places, as a percentage it roughly equates to 9.167%. 

[Deemania since 56 6,774]

9 minutes ago, John Crow Batty said:

Never mind %, 100% winning record is better.

That took a while...but remains irrelevant... but we all agree; well, at least 90% of us might.

Edited May 2, 2021 by Deemania since 56

[Graeme Yeats' Mullet 6,788]

Missed 3/4 as I was on a plane, the last 1/4 was average but good to see we put the foot on their throat when we needed to

One thing that struck me as strange, our % went down... Anyone know why?

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[Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,669]

9 minutes ago, Fanatique Demon said:

There is a lot of talk about Melksham.  Separately there is a lot of talk about playing one’s role...

Everyone is in the team to play their role. Melksham’s role is delivery to a player who can kick a goal or kick goals himself. Yes, it would be better if he tackled more ferociously. But that is not his primary role.

Drop him for not finding a target or kicking goals? Sure, that makes sense. But dropping Melksham for not tackling well or often enough would be like dropping Frisch for not taking intercept marks.

 

I haven’t been one attacking Melksham (nor have I defended him), but IMV if players do not wholeheartedly tackle, they should be dropped 

Edited May 2, 2021 by Rod Grinter Riot Squad

[Deemania since 56 6,774]

10 minutes ago, Fanatique Demon said:

There is a lot of talk about Melksham.  Separately there is a lot of talk about playing one’s role...

Everyone is in the team to play their role. Melksham’s role is delivery to a player who can kick a goal or kick goals himself. Yes, it would be better if he tackled more ferociously. But that is not his primary role.

Drop him for not finding a target or kicking goals? Sure, that makes sense. But dropping Melksham for not tackling well or often enough would be like dropping Frisch for not taking intercept marks.

 

Can you put a figure on that? 

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

2 hours ago, sue said:

I wonder how much Tomlinson's injury had on the mental state of the rest of the team.  Would be pretty depressing all round.  Of course nothing compared to himself.

I think this definitely had to factor in. We are all human after all. Was saying to a mate that Tomo needed to compose himself or remove himself away from the team as seeing him in distress ( which is absolutely ok) effected the teams focus. 

[Jaded No More 68,976]

9 minutes ago, Fanatique Demon said:

There is a lot of talk about Melksham.  Separately there is a lot of talk about playing one’s role...

Everyone is in the team to play their role. Melksham’s role is delivery to a player who can kick a goal or kick goals himself. Yes, it would be better if he tackled more ferociously. But that is not his primary role.

Drop him for not finding a target or kicking goals? Sure, that makes sense. But dropping Melksham for not tackling well or often enough would be like dropping Frisch for not taking intercept marks.

 

Disagree. Tackling and pressure acts are a non negotiable for everyone in the team according to Goodwin. 
Being a high half forward who doesn’t kick many goals, means defensive pressure is even more important. 
I wouldn’t drop Melksham because he isn’t winning clearances, but putting pressure on and tackling is really just a stock standard request for someone in his role. 

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

1 hour ago, Dees2014 said:

Don't forget Healy is a fanatical Swans supporter, so judge him after next week’s game. If we lose, watch out!

I thought he went for the Dees. Certainly seems that way on the Couch

[Deemania since 56 6,774]

1 minute ago, CYB said:

I think this definitely had to factor in. We are all human after all. Was saying to a mate that Tomo needed to compose himself or remove himself away from the team as seeing him in distress ( which is absolutely ok) effected the teams focus. 

His natural distress was an indication of his sincerity towards the Club and his teammates. In response, the Team won the game in his honour.