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I'd just like to endorse all the other posters in their praise for Goodwin outcoaching Ratten.

Honestly we arrested some serious momentum and changed the game. I can’t remember when we last did that and went on to win. We have some talent on the list. If we manage it well we are going plac

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23 minutes ago, old dee said:

I have seen not a frame of the game ( in QLD, game not on tv up here. ) but that score line suggests to me we should have won by 10 goals. Poor kicking for goal again? Oh it is 28 here with a slight on shore breeze and not  a cloud in the sky. 

A few Fritsch specials, a couple of Petracca wild set shots from 50, a couple of the same from Tommy, a bad Jackson miss and a few snaps that probably could’ve had an extra handball. 
 

Less space to find that extra kick to a leading player at Marvel hurts too. A contested marking key forward is handy against the Saints especially and we don’t have one right now 

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5 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

I've been a critic of one aspect of Oliver's game: lack of impact.  Well, he certainly turned that around last night!  He found space, had almost as many kicks as he did handballs (17/22), many of his kicks were sharp and went deep into the fwd line.  I don't know where to get 'metres gained' stats but I would expect it to be very high, perhaps the highest he has achieved.

It is close to his best ever game:  a very balanced game played at an exceptionally high level with significant impact.

Hope the Brownlow casting umpires take note.  He doesn't get enough love from them.

His hands are super fast and his ability to hit a target by foot or hand was excellent. Tremendous workrate. 

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2 hours ago, No Plan B said:

worst free kicks I’ve ever seen paid. “Obvious block” lol. 

Agree, though not the "worst".

May was using his body to get a mark and protect the ball drop. If Max wasn't there, he marks it. He let Max attempt it instead of going two up.

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3 hours ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Great win, think many are underestimating our set up behind the ball, which played a big part in Saints poor disposal.

Many times there players had ball in hand and had no free teammates in space, they ran to try and create handball chains but ran into trouble. Gus played his role and we we held our structure well instead of being bees to the honey pot.

Spargo is and has always been a smart footballer, Jordan touch of difference, Sparrow does the team thing, smart body position and cool for a young player. Tomlinson works perfectly as the third defender.

Lot to like about our ability to get wins and be in control when we we have more improvement in us

Agree with all points.

On the first one, one of the joys of going to the footy is being able to see the whole ground, watch the set ups/structures and see the defensive running players do.

I was up on level 3 in the pocket so had a great view down the ground.

I made exactly the same point to my mate as you did in your first paragraph.

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4 minutes ago, kev martin said:

Agree, though not the "worst".

May was using his body to get a mark and protect the ball drop. If Max wasn't there, he marks it. He let Max attempt it instead of going two up.

Max wasn’t there - he dived 5m forward. May didn’t mark it. 

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I reckon another factor with the poor disposal, theirs particularly, was late in quarters, and most of the last, both teams were stuffed

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18 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Fritsch specials, a couple of Petracca wild set shots from 50, a couple of the same from Tommy, a bad Jackson miss and a few snaps that probably could’ve had an extra handball. 

Except for tmac...in other words the usual suspects😁

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4 hours ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

Weid will be coming straight back in as soon as hes ready.

Would much rather have sideshow before Weid sorry (career averages courtesy of AFL stats pro)...

 

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42 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

covid country tho...soon everyone will have to stay inside, weather be damned

Ha we laugh in the face of death.

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A really great performance, I thought. We should have won by 6+ goals given the way in which we dominated the game for all bar 15 minutes in the second quarter.

Oliver, Petracca and Salem were all great, but as others have said, there were a number of vital contributions across the ground. Tomlinson was excellent, and with May, Lever and Salem we are forming a really strong back half. I thought Jetta and Jones played their best games since probably 2018. TMac again provided a reliable forward target too.

If that wasn't Pickett's "break out game", it will happen soon. He is starting to put it all together and I think the confidence he is gaining is going to help him improve. Coupled with Spargo and ANB, both of whom are showing strong defensive efforts (Spargo in particular has really lifted that part of his game over the off-season it seems), our forward line is now something that actually resembles a unit that works together. 

Fritsch could be such a damaging forward if he could kick set shots. He's a tough match up with his blend of pace and marking ability, and he's leading to better parts of the ground than he did last year.

Viney's return made us immediately better in the middle, but looked like he fatigued hard through the second half.

I thought Hunt struggled in the first half but in the fourth quarter in particular I loved the way he put his body on the line repeatedly when needed.

I also liked hearing Goodwin talk about how when St Kilda got their run of goals in the second, our senior players were actively discussing what we needed to do to stop it and turn the momentum back, and then actually went out and did it. Sounds ridiculous to say that as a compliment, given it should be obvious, but for us that's a big improvement.

Their ball movement was awful: yes, some of their turnovers were unforced, but (without having been at the ground) I assume much of the issue was our defensive set up and forward half pressure limiting the way they could transition. And yes, they were missing a few (their rucks, Crouch, Hannebery and Geary) but it's not like we're at full strength either.

We're now 2-0 having knocked off two sides I see as competitors of ours for a finals spot. We've won both games despite inaccuracy in front of goal and clearly having work to do with basic skill errors (last week it was kicking, this week it was ridiculous dropped marks). I'm pretty happy with that.

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2 hours ago, old dee said:

I have seen not a frame of the game ( in QLD, game not on tv up here. ) but that score line suggests to me we should have won by 10 goals. Poor kicking for goal again? Oh it is 28 here with a slight on shore breeze and not  a cloud in the sky. 

It was on kayo or Foxtel. Pubs normally show the games on fox too. 

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53 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

liked hearing Goodwin talk about how when St Kilda got their run of goals in the second, our senior players were actively discussing what we needed to do to stop it and turn the momentum back, and then actually

Yea they had a mini huddle after saints 6th.

It looked like Max was leading it but not sure.

Was good to see rather than them drop their heads and let it continue.

Great signs of maturity and belief....often lacking.

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We smashed them but they were very gettable in R2 off a wet travelling match and a 6 day break. Marshall, Ryder, Hannebery and Crouch are big outs, bigger than ours.  I'm very pleased with a Good win, but keeping the lid on.

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41 minutes ago, demonstone said:

Notable by their absence on this forum when we are winning are Dr.D, Elegt and olisik.

Maybe they (or is it he?) are too busy celebrating.  Or something.

Zzzooommmgggg no way?!
 

2/3 I’ve got blocked but that’s an amazing stat and considering Demonland is now the coach and selection committee I’m surprised they’ve not come in to crow about all of the things they’ve implemented that have 2-0. 

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19 hours ago, faultydet said:

Very happy with the win and some of the individual performances, particularly Kossie and ANB who I thought showed huge improvement tonight.

But was it just me or were there about 4 dropped marks in the 3rd, all while ducking their heads? That was alarming.

100% correct. Among them Lever and May.

Hope the coaches picked it up and told them you cant go doing that sort of thing.

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4 minutes ago, Pollyanna said:

We smashed them but they were very gettable in R2 off a wet travelling match and a 6 day break. Marshall, Ryder, Hannebery and Crouch are big outs, bigger than ours.  I'm very pleased with a Good win, but keeping the lid on.

Hoping the same against GWS.

One day extra, hot conditions and further to travel (WA)

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1 hour ago, demonstone said:

Notable by their absence on this forum when we are winning are Dr.D, Elegt and olisik.

Maybe they (or is it he?) are too busy celebrating.  Or something.

@Demonland can we get a count of how many days since they’ve posted? I assume since the day of our first game and nothing since? 

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1 hour ago, demonstone said:

Notable by their absence on this forum when we are winning are Dr.D, Elegt and olisik.

Maybe they (or is it he?) are too busy celebrating.  Or something.

@olisik is a well known troll. Goes MIA when winning then springs into action after every loss. 

The other two no one takes serious at all. The sooner they slowly faze out the better.

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2 hours ago, DemonOX said:

It was on kayo or Foxtel. Pubs normally show the games on fox too. 

Here with my family and we only arrived late in the day. Yesterday my allegiances were grand daughters  not the football. 

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I loved the game watching from home unfortunately but noticed that the Team is really starting to jell and do what a good team does, work, work work and look out for each other. We were able to wrestle back the lead and slow them down at will, if only we had of converted even 50% of our opportunities it could have been a percentage booster, still in my mind a great win as  I am always nervous with the Saints at Marvel Stadium. Well done Dee's.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

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