maybe i'm missing something here, but why is a QR code scan required for entry to afl games in victoria?

surely, because all entry must be booked beforehand on ticketek/ticketmaster with fixed reserved seats, then all the info required for contract tracing is already recorded

sure, some people could scalp their tickets to unknown people, but likewise many people won't scan (or just pretend) a qr code

Would assume it's because it makes the tracing easier when it's done through the govt app as opposed to having to chase up TicketMaster (who are terrible at everything) if needed.

The same people complaining about 'Dictator Dan's' contact tracing are probably the ones complaining about this as well.

QR tells the tracers who ACTUALLY arrived and went in

Because we're accepting international travelers in a few weeks and the virus will no doubt be imported back into the community given this state's track record.

21 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Would assume it's because it makes the tracing easier when it's done through the govt app as opposed to having to chase up TicketMaster (who are terrible at everything) if needed.

 

7 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

QR tells the tracers who ACTUALLY arrived and went in

These are the reasons but it all relies on people actually filling them in.

30 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

These are the reasons but it all relies on people actually filling them in.

Can you get in without scanning?

Again just complete overkill by the dictators running this state.

53 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Can you get in without scanning?

I guess it depends on how vigilant the authorities at the gate are in terms of checking whether you've checked in and checked in "honestly".

Cafes and restaurants were super-vigilant when they all reopened but now I can barely remember the last time anyone checked. Sure the signs and reminders are there and for the most part I comply but I've noticed that many establishments are more relaxed about it now.

I would assume that in the first few weeks at the footy you'll be watched like a hawk and then in a few week who knows. That said my 6 year old was treated like a member of the ISIS by security when entering the G on the weekend.

I honestly don’t understand what’s so difficult about scanning a QR code?

I do it everywhere and It takes sub 10 seconds to do so.

1 hour ago, Lord Nev said:

The same people complaining about 'Dictator Dan's' contact tracing are probably the ones complaining about this as well.

 

23 minutes ago, dl4e said:

Again just complete overkill by the dictators running this state.

  

On 11/18/2020 at 6:59 PM, dl4e said:

So much for [censored] contract tracing.

37 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

 

  

You have to get a ticket through tickitek and your name is registered. Why the qr codes ? Overkill as far as I am concerned.

10 minutes ago, dl4e said:

You have to get a ticket through tickitek and your name is registered. Why the qr codes ? Overkill as far as I am concerned.

When I first heard about the QR codes at the footy from this week on I thought the same thing but I guess there are other factors being Ticketek is a 3rd party to the venue and it's probably the venue that is responsible for who goes through their gates.

Then there are the cases of people that buy tickets but don't attend (I guess that issue can be solved by only contacting people that had barcodes that were actually scanned). And then there is the issue of on-selling or giving your ticket to someone else. Sure the contact traces might contact you and then you tell them to contact Joe Blow who actually attended but then that's already double contact tracing not to mention relying on Ticketek in the first place.

2 minutes ago, Demonland said:

When I first heard about the QR codes at the footy from this week on I thought the same thing but I guess there are other factors being Ticketek is a 3rd party to the venue and it's probably the venue that is responsible for who goes through their gates.

Then there are the cases of people that buy tickets but don't attend (I guess that issue can be solved by only contacting barcodes of people that actually get scanned). And then there is the issue of on-selling or giving your ticket to someone else. Sure the contact traces might contact you and then you tell them to contact Joe Blow who actually attended but then that's already double contact tracing not to mention relying on Ticketek in the first place.

Insurance reasons 

QR will be for The MCG purposes 

Ticketek have their own peramaters in a legal sense

3 hours ago, daisycutter said:

maybe i'm missing something here, but why is a QR code scan required for entry to afl games in victoria?

surely, because all entry must be booked beforehand on ticketek/ticketmaster with fixed reserved seats, then all the info required for contract tracing is already recorded

sure, some people could scalp their tickets to unknown people, but likewise many people won't scan (or just pretend) a qr code

The QR code scanned at any event entry is usually specific to it's location and is time stamped and submitted directly to the DHHS.

Get quite tired of people raving about Dictator Dan. I would hate to have seen how Victoria would have fared under the alternative bunch of corrupt and inept yokels.

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

When I first heard about the QR codes at the footy from this week on I thought the same thing but I guess there are other factors being Ticketek is a 3rd party to the venue and it's probably the venue that is responsible for who goes through their gates.

Then there are the cases of people that buy tickets but don't attend (I guess that issue can be solved by only contacting people that had barcodes that were actually scanned). And then there is the issue of on-selling or giving your ticket to someone else. Sure the contact traces might contact you and then you tell them to contact Joe Blow who actually attended but then that's already double contact tracing not to mention relying on Ticketek in the first place.

Like many things this seems simple enough but if there were a person with Covid that attended the footy the authorities have to contact and interview everyone that may have had contact with the individual which could be hundreds of people, and then of those hundreds of people contact their close contacts, which is on average around 20 close contacts per person, so thousands of people within a very short timeframe. Given the speed required it is understandable that the State Government want this data in a form that directly interfaces with their contact tracing platform without having to rely on a third party and then interview people to see if they onsold tickets and if the people they sold them to attended.

People have amnesia about how quickly this virus preys on the vulnerable. It's as though they are demanding their 'freedom' to indulge without even contemplating the possible consequences. I also have about as much sympathy for the impact it's had on 'Business' as I have for surfers who complain they can't swim because ten sharks have been spotted on the beaches they surf. It's as though 'Business' is the new religion of our way of life. It ain't baby, viruses like this spare nothing and nobody...

Edited March 25, 20214 yr by dieter

Were you supposed to do this last week? Not against doing it but don't remember it being an issue.

2 hours ago, Cheesy D. Pun said:

The QR code scanned at any event entry is usually specific to it's location and is time stamped and submitted directly to the DHHS.

That doesn't sound frightening at all.

5 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

QR tells the tracers who ACTUALLY arrived and went in

true, but the turnstyles also log the ticketmaster barcode

i can't believe the qr scanning will be adequately checked by officials coz it would take too many people and time.

there is also a minority of people who will wilfully not do it or say they had. I heard a few on the radio today

anyway......it will be interesting to see if the # of qr scans harvested by dhss match the afl attendance figures, but i suspect these qr figures will not be publicised 

anyway2,,,,,good discussion.....

2 hours ago, Supermercado said:

Were you supposed to do this last week? Not against doing it but don't remember it being an issue.

They definitely had them up around the G last week including at the gates but I didn't notice anyone scanning them.

I don't know why people complain about it, if you don't want to do it don't do it. Noone is going to be forcing you to scan it, it would be impossible to police with so many people going through and so many different places to scan. You won't have to scan it as you walk in they will have them spread around the ground so will be easy enough to avoid.

If you're someone who decides to not scan QR codes when you go somewhere then please don't ever complain about the contact tracing system in Victoria ever again.

 

15 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Can you get in without scanning?

yes

 

11 hours ago, Supermercado said:

Were you supposed to do this last week? Not against doing it but don't remember it being an issue.

I didn't notice anything and nobody manning the gates suggested that it was an option.