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6 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Dazzle, for most of the 1st Quarter and I was watching closely, Spargo was Daniel's direct opponent. The amount of times Daniel mopped up and set of across Half back and launched attacks was telling. Spargo just seemed to be in no mans land.

Yeah I know that Pickett, but Spargo wasn't playing the Caleb Daniel role as it was suggested.

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1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Yeah I know that Pickett, but Spargo wasn't playing the Caleb Daniel role as it was suggested.

Gotcha Dazz,it is Sunday, Brain is in Neutral?

Cheers P.F

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Are Teams other than us told that the scoreboard doesn't matter and they play a role for the whole game, and that is what they would be assessed on after that game?

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9 minutes ago, willmoy said:

Are Teams other than us told that the scoreboard doesn't matter and they play a role for the whole game, and that is what they would be assessed on after that game?

I'd say about 17 other teams. Though your wording is a bit incomplete.  I expect players in all 18 teams are told the scoreboard doesn't matter for you, the individual player - if you and your mates all play your roles the scoreboard will take care of itself.  If you don't play your role you will be assessed poorly.

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3 hours ago, picket fence said:

Dazzle, for most of the 1st Quarter and I was watching closely, Spargo was Daniel's direct opponent. The amount of times Daniel mopped up and set of across Half back and launched attacks was telling. Spargo just seemed to be in no mans land.

LOL this is just complete rubbish.

in the first qtr i saw Sparrow, Jordon, ANB, Jones, Chandler and Spargo lined up as a direct opponent on Daniel at various times. the players rotate through the forward half these days, hardly no one lines up on a direct opponent for a whole qtr anymore. and even though players start lined up on each other from a centre bounce situation that doesn't mean much anyway, from there its all about keeping the structures and how you want to play instead.

the biggest problem we had with Daniel was our mids just couldn't get their hands on the ball enough to move it forward, so Daniel just did as he pleased instead of defending. i only saw Spargo on Daniel twice that first qtr and one was from a kick out and Spargo burnt him for pace running back inside the F50 but didn't get used.

if you were 'watching closely' i suggest you need to go to spec savers. seems your hatred of Spargo is making you blind.

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Just now, Demon Dude said:

LOL this is just complete rubbish.

in the first qtr i saw Sparrow, Jordon, ANB, Jones, Chandler and Spargo lined up as a direct opponent on Daniel at various times. the players rotate through the forward half these days, hardly no one lines up on a direct opponent for a whole qtr anymore. and even though players start lined up on each other from a centre bounce situation that doesn't mean much anyway, from there its all about keeping the structures and how you want to play instead.

the biggest problem we had with Daniel was our mids just couldn't get their hands on the ball enough to move it forward, so Daniel just did as he pleased instead of defending. i only saw Spargo on Daniel twice that first qtr and one was from a kick out and Spargo burnt him for pace running back inside the F50 but didn't get used.

if you were 'watching closely' i suggest you need to go to speck savers. seems your hatred of Spargo is making you blind.

Mate. He's a rubbish footballer 

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On 3/12/2021 at 11:45 PM, bobby1554 said:

Yep, great idea! Let’s take the bloke who finished 3rd in the Brownlow last year out of the engine room. Ridiculous

 

Thank god someone said it

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On 3/13/2021 at 7:36 AM, Earl Hood said:

You didn’t watch the practice match last week I presume? The forward line is dysfunctional, the midfield will improve with Oliver and Brayshaw to come in. 

Did you watch the game? Clearances were double in favour of the dogs.  Win a Clearance and get the ball into our fwd line and see how much more we score!

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7 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Where? Can you point me to a link regarding any of the information leading up to the match that it was played at Casey on a Friday night?

I'll wait with interest. 

So Dazzle, the part of my post you highlighted was related to people posting in the thread after others in the thread had already stated it was being played at CASEY. I understand that certain people on this site have particular opinion of who and and what I am. Occasionally they should take a breath and understand what I'm saying before making a judgement simply because it's me posting. Regardless, I'll try and point out what I was talking about before moving on to what you were really asking. DD36 posted a Box Hill tweet Friday 8:21 pm stating First blood in the second half to the "hosts". An hour before that the Casey Tweet had reported this

 
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A practice match to kick off the weekend!
 
The boys are taking on Box Hill at Casey Fields. A couple of updates to come throughout the night.
 
 
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Sorry to throw rjay under the bus but around 8: 33 this was posted in reply to Matt Demon

"Same, if it's at City Oval in Box Hill. I was just around the corner from there around 7pm". In rjays defence, you don't know what you don't know. Matt Demon put rjay straight informing them it was at Casey.

Next morning around 1130 a poster replies to Binman and says "And, on top of all that, I've been following the Training Reports and all the news and gossip and live within 300 metres of the Box Hill Ground. Had I known I would have dragged my three week old new right knee along and found a comfy chair and watched it."  I know, I know, I'm just too harsh a critic.

Now for what you were really focused on but didn't understand in my post or just honed in on what you thought you could attack and ignored the rest.

Goody mentioned the game in his presser after the Dogs game but didn't specify Friday just later in the week. Pretty sure I read something in the little paper and then there was some discussion in a private Demons Facebook group I'm involved with. Sorry can't be more helpful. In any case I agree with you it wasn't posted on the MFC site and I've explained my thinking on that. In a perfect world everything should appear in one place example the Calendar on the website. The Upcoming Event list here use to be good for that but now only seems to be full of Birthdays. Perhaps you could PM Demonland and ask him to use his contacts at the Club to get more info added to the calendar.

Failing that perhaps stamp your foot a little harder.

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3 minutes ago, dworship said:

So Dazzle, the part of my post you highlighted was related to people posting in the thread after others in the thread had already stated it was being played at CASEY. I understand that certain people on this site have particular opinion of who and and what I am. Occasionally they should take a breath and understand what I'm saying before making a judgement simply because it's me posting. Regardless, I'll try and point out what I was talking about before moving on to what you were really asking. DD36 posted a Box Hill tweet Friday 8:21 pm stating First blood in the second half to the "hosts". An hour before that the Casey Tweet had poted this

 
 
ETsepq4z_bigger.jpg
 
 
A practice match to kick off the weekend!
 
The boys are taking on Box Hill at Casey Fields. A couple of updates to come throughout the night.
 
 
 
Image

Sorry to throw rjay under the bus but around 8: 33 this was posted in reply to Matt Demon

"Same, if it's at City Oval in Box Hill. I was just around the corner from there around 7pm". In rjays defence, you don't know what you don't know. Matt Demon put rjay straight informing them it was at Casey.

Next morning around 1130 a poster replies to Binman and says "And, on top of all that, I've been following the Training Reports and all the news and gossip and live within 300 metres of the Box Hill Ground. Had I known I would have dragged my three week old new right knee along and found a comfy chair and watched it."  I know, I know, I'm just to harsh a critic.

Now for what you were really focused on but didn't understand in my post or just honed in on what you thought you could attack and ignored the rest.

Goody mentioned the game in his presser after the Dogs game but didn't specify Friday just later in the week. Pretty sure I read something in the little paper and then there was some discussion in a private Demons Facebook group I'm involved with. Sorry can't be more helpful. In any case I agree with you it wasn't posted on the MFC site and I've explained my thinking on that. In a perfect world everything should appear in one place example the Calendar on the website. The Upcoming Event list here use to be good for that but now only seems to be full of Birthdays. Perhaps you could PM Demonland and ask him to use his contacts at the Club to get more info added to the calendar.

Failing that perhaps stamp your foot a little harder.

All fair and good points mate.

I just personally wish the club had actually advertised something on the MFC website as well. Not everyone has a twitter account. 

Their is a disconnection right now between the footy club and supporters. Our on field right now is poor, at least get the off field stuff right.

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12 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

All fair and good points mate.

I just personally wish the club had actually advertised something on the MFC website as well. Not everyone has a twitter account. 

Their is a disconnection right now between the footy club and supporters. Our on field right now is poor, at least get the off field stuff right.

I understand and it's not ideal but if you watch and look closely at the banter with Ben Gibson he is right under the pump and is trying to be the everywhere man at the moment. I think that's indicative of how under resourced that part of the Club has become. Sorry but I'm on the "just focus on the on field stuff" side of this at the moment. Get that right and the rest won't matter.

Further to that; a lot of focus/ resources is going into the Woman's side at the moment and I think that's the right way to go but in a Covid world that's got to have an impact.

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44 minutes ago, Travy14 said:

Did you watch the game? Clearances were double in favour of the dogs.  Win a Clearance and get the ball into our fwd line and see how much more we score!

I take your point but I also look at 2019 and 2020 we didn’t make finals but we never struggled to get the ball inside our 50m zone. We nearly always won the I50 count but our forward conversion ratio was appalling. The midfield is not our greatest problem. Our backline is pretty settled but I say again our forward line is dysfunctional, underperforming, you name it. We have 2 or 3 big forwards out for the first few matches, how do we make our forward line work early? I say get Tracc forward more often than not, to give us more scoring power. The midfield will improve thru Oliver, Brayshaw and then Viney in 2 weeks. 

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1 hour ago, dworship said:

I understand and it's not ideal but if you watch and look closely at the banter with Ben Gibson he is right under the pump and is trying to be the everywhere man at the moment. I think that's indicative of how under resourced that part of the Club has become. Sorry but I'm on the "just focus on the on field stuff" side of this at the moment. Get that right and the rest won't matter.

Further to that; a lot of focus/ resou

rces is going into the Woman's side at the moment and I think that's the right way to go but in a Covid world that's got to have an impact.

I'm certainly not pointing the finger at Ben. I appreciate his work last year during the covid period and thinks we as a supporter base are lucky to have him. He won me right over with his interview with Josh Mahoneh when he went hard at him. I will also say that he needs to ditch the Gus and Gawny podcast. It's evident to the eye that he gets bullied from both boys with Gus being the most vocal around this. It's actually a disgrace to watch considering Gus has has already experienced mental health dating spud Frawleys daughter. Both Max and Gus need to pull their heads in big time.

I'm not in the camp that's it's all just up to Ben. In a big organization that requires a lot of media attention Ben cannot simply be the one that's been left in this department.  Wasn't there another young blond girl that was involved last year as well during covid?

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1 hour ago, dworship said:

So Dazzle, the part of my post you highlighted was related to people posting in the thread after others in the thread had already stated it was being played at CASEY. I understand that certain people on this site have particular opinion of who and and what I am. Occasionally they should take a breath and understand what I'm saying before making a judgement simply because it's me posting. Regardless, I'll try and point out what I was talking about before moving on to what you were really asking. DD36 posted a Box Hill tweet Friday 8:21 pm stating First blood in the second half to the "hosts". An hour before that the Casey Tweet had reported this

 
ETsepq4z_bigger.jpg
 
 
A practice match to kick off the weekend!
 
The boys are taking on Box Hill at Casey Fields. A couple of updates to come throughout the night.
 
 
Image

Sorry to throw rjay under the bus but around 8: 33 this was posted in reply to Matt Demon

"Same, if it's at City Oval in Box Hill. I was just around the corner from there around 7pm". In rjays defence, you don't know what you don't know. Matt Demon put rjay straight informing them it was at Casey.

Next morning around 1130 a poster replies to Binman and says "And, on top of all that, I've been following the Training Reports and all the news and gossip and live within 300 metres of the Box Hill Ground. Had I known I would have dragged my three week old new right knee along and found a comfy chair and watched it."  I know, I know, I'm just too harsh a critic.

Now for what you were really focused on but didn't understand in my post or just honed in on what you thought you could attack and ignored the rest.

Goody mentioned the game in his presser after the Dogs game but didn't specify Friday just later in the week. Pretty sure I read something in the little paper and then there was some discussion in a private Demons Facebook group I'm involved with. Sorry can't be more helpful. In any case I agree with you it wasn't posted on the MFC site and I've explained my thinking on that. In a perfect world everything should appear in one place example the Calendar on the website. The Upcoming Event list here use to be good for that but now only seems to be full of Birthdays. Perhaps you could PM Demonland and ask him to use his contacts at the Club to get more info added to the calendar.

Failing that perhaps stamp your foot a little harder.

You're really invested in this lol

Let it go

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43 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I'm certainly not pointing the finger at Ben. I appreciate his work last year during the covid period and thinks we as a supporter base are lucky to have him. He won me right over with his interview with Josh Mahoneh when he went hard at him. I will also say that he needs to ditch the Gus and Gawny podcast. It's evident to the eye that he gets bullied from both boys with Gus being the most vocal around this. It's actually a disgrace to watch considering Gus has has already experienced mental health dating spud Frawleys daughter. Both Max and Gus need to pull their heads in big time.

I'm not in the camp that's it's all just up to Ben. In a big organization that requires a lot of media attention Ben cannot simply be the one that's been left in this department.  Wasn't there another young blond girl that was involved last year as well during covid?

I'm with you about the Gus and Gawny show: its underlying theme is a kind of 'matey' male aggro based on put downs which I don't relate to. 

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43 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I'm certainly not pointing the finger at Ben. I appreciate his work last year during the covid period and thinks we as a supporter base are lucky to have him. He won me right over with his interview with Josh Mahoneh when he went hard at him. I will also say that he needs to ditch the Gus and Gawny podcast. It's evident to the eye that he gets bullied from both boys with Gus being the most vocal around this. It's actually a disgrace to watch considering Gus has has already experienced mental health dating spud Frawleys daughter. Both Max and Gus need to pull their heads in big time.

I'm not in the camp that's it's all just up to Ben. In a big organization that requires a lot of media attention Ben cannot simply be the one that's been left in this department.  Wasn't there another young blond girl that was involved last year as well during covid?

I think it's just banter and I'm pretty sure Ben gives as good as he gets except he can't say a lot of it in public. I wasn't suggesting it was up to Ben, I was just pointing out he seems to not have a lot of assistance at the moment.

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4 minutes ago, dieter said:

I'm with you about the Gus and Gawny show: its underlying theme is a kind of 'matey' male aggro based on put downs which I don't relate to. 

Funny, but I was listening to some clips of that Amazon Prime thing they've been plugging lately where they followed different people in football last season.

It's probably good viewing but one thing that really annoyed the hell out of me was the incessant need to swear by the coaches...it was pretty juvenile really. It was like I'm a real man, I'm grown up and I really mean what I say and you've really got to listen to me because I'm using the F... word. Leon Cameron and Adam Simpson were the ones I heard in the clips...

It's so embarrassing and more so because I used to do it when I was coaching...I cringed listening to this stuff. It's exactly the male agro rubbish you're talking about and I did it.

Surely a coach can express his message clearly without...listen here, you know what they f...ing think about you, they think you are f...ing weak, just look at the f...ing s... in the media...are we going to f...ing take this or are we going to f...ing do something about it.

It's really childish and pathetic...surely we they can do better.

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