Casey Demons Vs Box Hill Hawks.

[picket fence 17,169]

THANKS HEAPS TO DAZZLE MAN DWORSHIP and others who have posted

Friigggen typical MFC lack of promotion re game!

You would think we have won a coupla Flags

Arrogance personified!

[Lord Nev 13,512]

Far out guys. It was a VFL practice match. Settle down. Plenty of updates pointed to by the club.

 

[Elwood 3184 1,302]

Oh look ... a practice match where one team had half a dozen or so of its AFL listed players and the other team had none and the game turned out to be a bit of a mismatch. Reminds me a bit of a game played at Marvel Stadium last week.

Anyway, a premiership awaits Casey and it’s season over for Box Hill.

[Earl Hood 6,086]

7 hours ago, bobby1554 said:

Yep, great idea! Let’s take the bloke who finished 3rd in the Brownlow last year out of the engine room. Ridiculous

 

You didn’t watch the practice match last week I presume? The forward line is dysfunctional, the midfield will improve with Oliver and Brayshaw to come in. 

[binman 42,973]

6 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

Far out guys. It was a VFL practice match. Settle down. Plenty of updates pointed to by the club.

 

Cmon nev, you know how important good communication with fans is.

Sure it was a VFL practice match. But what does that mean in this context?

Its not some random VFL practice match with some dees players running around to get some match fitness and touch (eg for Sandringham a few years back pre Casey Scorpians).

The Casey DEMONS are our reserves team. One of the three teams that make up the demons.

We made a strategic decision to not go down the Richmond path and create our own VFL team.

Instead as a club we made the call to strengthen the alignment with Casey. Casey changed their  a name (which would have caused much angst at casey), linkied the coaching, new jumper and dees song. We train there  have financialy invested in the club and have committed to the club and region.

Leaving aside the fact that this match was the last meaningful opportunity for some key players to make a case for round one selection, and that there has been reduced practice games and no training access, not letting fans know  about the game is not supportive of the Casey Demons. Our reserves team. Apparently.

And for Pete's sake how hard would a short piece on the website ahead of the game be? 

Maybe as sue suggests they didn't want people there but they could still say its on and who is playing.

And send Ben Gibson down to report on it. Or the media intern they advertised for. The one they said they wouldn't pay. Another command own goal.

Jeez, good communication is 101 for businesses (which we are). A stated club goal is to build our membership base.

Sure the die-hards like us will be members but for those fans who are ambivalent about shelling out 200 plus dollars surely good communication is an important part of the value proposition?

Particularly for a club that is giving fans finals and has no home base.

Like I said if this was a one off then no big deal. But it ain't. Far from it. They had improved considerably in the 2020 preseason period but gone backwards again since.

And money is no excuse. Good comms don't need flashy, expensive videos. Just timely information through channels thst are basically free, other than staff time.

I hardly ever go to the club's website for info. Which is ridiculous. I would but it is hopeless. I come to demonland. Which is how I found out gus, kozzie and hibberd were playing and therefore some chance to play in out critical round one game.

And to learn daw might be some chance too.

 

[binman 42,973]

And please nev. That tweet you linked, seemingly the ONLY comms about the match by the club was posted at 8.23pm.

Which presumably was after the match started. And I'm guessing after someone at the club saw or heard about the disquiet here. 

And received all of 9 likes. Viral. Not.

[Lucifers Hero 39,818]

7 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

Far out guys. It was a VFL practice match. Settle down. Plenty of updates pointed to by the club.

 

Not everyone follows mfc twitter feed.  I

It would be simple to put something on mfc website, preferably the main page.  Failing that on the Casey page which sadly is embedded in the 'Team' tab so not easy to find.

 

BTW  haven't heard much from Ben Gibson lately.  Anyone know if Is he still around?

Edited March 12, 2021 by Lucifer's Hero

[Deemania since 56 6,640]

13 hours ago, joshua said:

Heard on here that Deakyn Smith was playing but dees social team seem to be pretending this game dosnt exist? No mention of it or who’s playing anywhere 

Die-hard fans need better information flows that this pathetic oversight. Perhaps the MFC do not wish to increase/maintain the passionate support and depth considerations of both Casey and the AFL team listings, and respective prognoses. Pith paw effort - and thanks for the consideration.

[ArtificialWisdom 4,045]

38 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Not everyone follows mfc twitter feed.  

It would be simple to put something on mfc website, preferably the main page.  Failing that on the Casey page which sadly is embedded in the 'Team' tab so not easy to find.

 

BTW  haven't heard much from Ben Gibson lately.  Anyone know if Is he still around?

Not a lot of good following on twitter would have done people anyway. I found out about the game at about 10 min before it started last night when I made the effort to go to Box Hill's twitter to see if they had any info because I was free to go if it was today. 

I follow both Melbourne and Casey on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram as well as Melbourne on YouTube and as we know nothing on the website or via email. Nothing from any of them until the game had already begun. In fact the earliest communication was Casey's first tweet that came with a photo showing it was already 24 minutes into the first qtr and Melbourne's only communication was a retweet of that very post an hour after that. 

I understand when they withhold injury information despite how frustrating it is. But this is just crap. A simple tweet from both saying "Casey boys playing Box Hill at Casey Fields tonight. Unfortunately this will be closed to the public. Updates and a match report to follow" Would have been enough info surely. A team list would have been a bonus. But nothing at all?

As for Ben, He's around working mostly on AFLW stuff at the moment. They did release an AFLW "Before the Bounce" video last night with Libby and Ben

Edited March 12, 2021 by ArtificialWisdom
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[binman 42,973]

Spot on AW.

They have no problems promoting their fundraising stuff, like a box at the g. Get emails for that sort of stuff all the time.

Again, membership is the clubs most important revenue stream. Not bloody boxes at the g.

I though pert was supposed to be business savvy?

[buck_nekkid 5,863]

49 minutes ago, binman said:

Spot on AW.

They have no problems promoting their fundraising stuff, like a box at the g. Get emails for that sort of stuff all the time.

Again, membership is the clubs most important revenue stream. Not bloody boxes at the g.

I though pert was supposed to be business savvy?

Perhaps they did not expect people to be so frothy about a reserves of reserves hit out played against a team with no AFL players.  It was more like a practice session (which they tell us nothing about until after if we are lucky) with some ‘match sim’ against no one of note.

im not as aggrieved as some, but a summary would be nice.  Let the real stuff commence!

[Tarax Club 3,916]

              
              Just give us some of that old                  
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[old dee 23,791]

2 hours ago, binman said:

Cmon nev, you know how important good communication with fans is.

Sure it was a VFL practice match. But what does that mean in this context?

Its not some random VFL practice match with some dees players running around to get some match fitness and touch (eg for Sandringham a few years back pre Casey Scorpians).

The Casey DEMONS are our reserves team. One of the three teams that make up the demons.

We made a strategic decision to not go down the Richmond path and create our own VFL team.

Instead as a club we made the call to strengthen the alignment with Casey. Casey changed their  a name (which would have caused much angst at casey), linkied the coaching, new jumper and dees song. We train there  have financialy invested in the club and have committed to the club and region.

Leaving aside the fact that this match was the last meaningful opportunity for some key players to make a case for round one selection, and that there has been reduced practice games and no training access, not letting fans know  about the game is not supportive of the Casey Demons. Our reserves team. Apparently.

And for Pete's sake how hard would a short piece on the website ahead of the game be? 

Maybe as sue suggests they didn't want people there but they could still say its on and who is playing.

And send Ben Gibson down to report on it. Or the media intern they advertised for. The one they said they wouldn't pay. Another command own goal.

Jeez, good communication is 101 for businesses (which we are). A stated club goal is to build our membership base.

Sure the die-hards like us will be members but for those fans who are ambivalent about shelling out 200 plus dollars surely good communication is an important part of the value proposition?

Particularly for a club that is giving fans finals and has no home base.

Like I said if this was a one off then no big deal. But it ain't. Far from it. They had improved considerably in the 2020 preseason period but gone backwards again since.

And money is no excuse. Good comms don't need flashy, expensive videos. Just timely information through channels thst are basically free, other than staff time.

I hardly ever go to the club's website for info. Which is ridiculous. I would but it is hopeless. I come to demonland. Which is how I found out gus, kozzie and hibberd were playing and therefore some chance to play in out critical round one game.

And to learn daw might be some chance too.

 

That covers it perfectly Binman. I almost never go to the official website for the reasons you stated. 

Edited March 12, 2021 by old dee

[old dee 23,791]

13 minutes ago, buck_nekkid said:

Perhaps they did not expect people to be so frothy about a reserves of reserves hit out played against a team with no AFL players.  It was more like a practice session (which they tell us nothing about until after if we are lucky) with some ‘match sim’ against no one of note.

im not as aggrieved as some, but a summary would be nice.  Let the real stuff commence!

If you cannot get the small things right what chance the big things?

[binman 42,973]

20 minutes ago, buck_nekkid said:

Perhaps they did not expect people to be so frothy about a reserves of reserves hit out played against a team with no AFL players.

If not then they don't understand their fans. Which is a worry.

Even if most don't care, some obviously do and for basically no effort or cost they could have made the effort to at least post some pre game info on the club websites. I don't care about a box at the g but still get that spamming up my email

And it wasn't the reserves of the reserves. Was the best team Casey could put out.

[PaulRB 6,363]

Sooooo, comms issues aside, sounds like Gus, Kozzie, Vanders and Daws has good games, are ready and have put their hands up for round 1. 
I like to hear that Kozzie is spending time in the middle, as his agility and skill can be dynamite in congested spaces.

Does Daws come in for Jackson or TMac?

Did Hibbard play full 4-quarters with intensity, and is he ready?

good signs.

Edited March 12, 2021 by PaulRB

[old dee 23,791]

But we managed to get Bartlett’s title changed from Chairman to President done. Obviously more important that a game of football.

Hange on that’s what they do isn’t it? 

[buck_nekkid 5,863]

7 minutes ago, binman said:

If not then they don't understand their fans. Which is a worry.

Even if most don't care, some obviously do and for basically no effort or cost they could have made the effort to at least post some pre game info on the club websites. I don't care about a box at the g but still get that spamming up my email

And it wasn't the reserves of the reserves. Was the best team Casey could put out.

Fair call.  Will you relay your concerns to the club?  Be interested in their response (or lack of it as I am hearing from many who try to contact them..)

[old dee 23,791]

1 minute ago, PaulRB said:

Sooooo, comms issues aside, sounds like Gus, Kozzie, Vanders and Daws has good games, are ready and have put their hands up for round 1. 
I like to hear that Kozzie is spending time in the middle, as his agility and skill can be dynamite in congested spaces.

Does Daws come in for Jackson or TMac?

Did Hibbard play full 4-quarters with intensity, and is he ready?

good signs.

I doubt Daws will play in the first game but without knowledge I have no idea how well his fitness held up of the course of the game.

[PaulRB 6,363]

Just now, old dee said:

I doubt Daws will play in the first game but without knowledge I have no idea how well his fitness held up of the course of the game.

True, but four goals while also rucking, with an afl seasoned body... he may be more ready than has been let on... it’s not like he’s had a year out of the game.

[Soidee 1,496]

Frankly after 35 years as a member, most of which has been premium family at a high cost, I could not be more disinterested in the MFC at the moment.  Fatigued by too many false starts for anyone as a football supporter.  
 

so far this year there has been sweet little to get enthused about and for the first time in 35 years I won’t  make a decision on membership until after the first 3 games.  I have had a gutful of the over promising and undelivering.

[binman 42,973]

12 minutes ago, buck_nekkid said:

Fair call.  Will you relay your concerns to the club?  Be interested in their response (or lack of it as I am hearing from many who try to contact them..)

That's a fair question.

I have previously (a few years back). Will consider doing so again. 

[dieter 3,325]

3 hours ago, binman said:

Cmon nev, you know how important good communication with fans is.

Sure it was a VFL practice match. But what does that mean in this context?

Its not some random VFL practice match with some dees players running around to get some match fitness and touch (eg for Sandringham a few years back pre Casey Scorpians).

The Casey DEMONS are our reserves team. One of the three teams that make up the demons.

We made a strategic decision to not go down the Richmond path and create our own VFL team.

Instead as a club we made the call to strengthen the alignment with Casey. Casey changed their  a name (which would have caused much angst at casey), linkied the coaching, new jumper and dees song. We train there  have financialy invested in the club and have committed to the club and region.

Leaving aside the fact that this match was the last meaningful opportunity for some key players to make a case for round one selection, and that there has been reduced practice games and no training access, not letting fans know  about the game is not supportive of the Casey Demons. Our reserves team. Apparently.

And for Pete's sake how hard would a short piece on the website ahead of the game be? 

Maybe as sue suggests they didn't want people there but they could still say its on and who is playing.

And send Ben Gibson down to report on it. Or the media intern they advertised for. The one they said they wouldn't pay. Another command own goal.

Jeez, good communication is 101 for businesses (which we are). A stated club goal is to build our membership base.

Sure the die-hards like us will be members but for those fans who are ambivalent about shelling out 200 plus dollars surely good communication is an important part of the value proposition?

Particularly for a club that is giving fans finals and has no home base.

Like I said if this was a one off then no big deal. But it ain't. Far from it. They had improved considerably in the 2020 preseason period but gone backwards again since.

And money is no excuse. Good comms don't need flashy, expensive videos. Just timely information through channels thst are basically free, other than staff time.

I hardly ever go to the club's website for info. Which is ridiculous. I would but it is hopeless. I come to demonland. Which is how I found out gus, kozzie and hibberd were playing and therefore some chance to play in out critical round one game.

And to learn daw might be some chance too.

 

And, on top of all that, I've been following the Training Reports and all the news and gossip and live within 300 metres of the Box Hill Ground. Had I known I would have dragged my three week old new right knee along and found a comfy chair and watched it.

[Vineytime 847]

No Melksham, seems he will be unlikely for Rd 1. Although how would we no with zero update from the club recently. 

[Lord Nev 13,512]

2 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Not everyone follows mfc twitter feed.  I

It would be simple to put something on mfc website, preferably the main page.  Failing that on the Casey page which sadly is embedded in the 'Team' tab so not easy to find.

 

BTW  haven't heard much from Ben Gibson lately.  Anyone know if Is he still around?

I don't even have a twitter account, but it's not that much harder to go to the MFC's twitter than it is to go to their website.