On 18/02/2021 at 08:24, america de cali said:

I knew this was coming. No more live games streamed on the AFL app. Only good for replays live scores and stats now. I’m not buying into that dog Murdoch’s Kayo. It can go to buggery. Next for the chop is FTA.
https://www.afl.com.au/live-pass-changes

If it's any comfort I suspect Kayo will be sold in the next year or so.

It's a very long way from a Murdoch core business these days and it's no longer a subsidised hook to get Foxtel box subscribers.

Binge and Kayo are now the products.

It's also lucky that the present broadcasting rights have been extended for a few years as I'm sure Stan would have tried to buy a game (say Thursday nights) or even a team's coverage (eg Brisbane). Unfotunately split platforms is the likely future.

Edited February 19, 20214 yr by Diamond_Jim

  On 18/02/2021 at 08:24, america de cali said:

I knew this was coming. No more live games streamed on the AFL app. Only good for replays live scores and stats now. I’m not buying into that dog Murdoch’s Kayo. It can go to buggery. Next for the chop is FTA.
https://www.afl.com.au/live-pass-changes

Actually i'm pleased with the remaining options, which as i understand it are replays of all games, in game heat maps and stats and AFL.pro

I have the Telstra live pass but I never used the live streaming option as I found it unwatchable on a phone or on a cropped tablet (you couldn't watch it on a PC, tablet viewing is cropped - a bit bigger than phone but not much, and you couldn't cast).

I have kayo (but fully get why people don't want it), but even before i got it, I only ever used the replays, in game heat maps and stats and AFL.pro so nothing changes for me.

Before kayo if i could not watch a dees game live for whatever reason ie not on FTA, couldn't get to the game, death in the family etc etc) i went into a complete media blackout and told (read, demanded/threatened) family a, friends and colleagues not to tell me the result - actually in fact not single thing about the game. I then watched the replay of the game on AFL live pass 'as live' 12 hours after it ended, which is when becomes available(once 2 full days - a tigers game. We lost). 

The big concern for me was not having access to AFL.pro, as it is the one function/tool that is not available anywhere else.

I have pumped it up before but i highly recommend people to use it if they have access to it. You can watch the video of EVERY involvement (basically defined as anything for which a stat is collected for) of EVERY player in EVERY game.

Its fascinating way to view the game. I assume similar vision (perhaps the same vision) is used by the clubs for individual player reviews.

One cool thing is that it changes the focus a bit away from disposals being the key metric for involvement. Sometimes a player, like sparrow a few times last year, would get perhaps 15 possessions and you might think he was not in the game much. But watching his vision he might have 30 involvements (egf his 15 possession, his one percenters, his marks, his fress for, frees against etc)

And few times last year i enjoyed Petracca porn - edited vision of all his involvements in games he dominated.

 

 

  On 18/02/2021 at 08:24, america de cali said:

I knew this was coming. No more live games streamed on the AFL app. Only good for replays live scores and stats now. I’m not buying into that dog Murdoch’s Kayo. It can go to buggery. Next for the chop is FTA.
https://www.afl.com.au/live-pass-changes

Can't believe the auto-censor didn't "remove" this.  

I’m going to pi$$ off my Foxtel box once and for all and take the $5 month Kayo/Telstra offer (for 12 months) and stream it through the Apple TV. 
Will save a lot of dough 

  On 19/02/2021 at 00:01, Diamond_Jim said:

If it's any comfort I suspect Kayo will be sold in the next year or so.

It's a very long way from a Murdoch core business these days and it's no longer a subsidised hook to get Foxtel box subscribers.

Binge and Kayo are now the products.

It's also lucky that the present broadcasting rights have been extended for a few years as I'm sure Stan would have tried to buy a game (say Thursday nights) or even a team's coverage (eg Brisbane). Unfotunately split platforms is the likely future.

kayo is integral to the murdoch business going forward; there's no way that it will be sold, unless it is to become 100% news corp

streammotion - which is kayo and binge's actual name - is 100% owned by foxtel, which is 65% news corp / 35% telstra

I have Kayo. Delighted with it. Good selection, repeats, fast forward through ads. Can’t believe I used to pay $60 a month (I think it was) for a Foxtel sub

  On 19/02/2021 at 05:56, whatwhatsaywhat said:

kayo is integral to the murdoch business going forward; there's no way that it will be sold, unless it is to become 100% news corp

Murdoch has sold his media business to Disney.

He's kept key influential assets. Sky news and the Australian are what buy him influence along with his local tabloids.

Foxtel wasn't sold because of local Australian issues (Telstra was one of the inhibitors).... it's not core in any way believe me.

Do some back of the envelope figures and you can quickly work out that with the amount paid for AFL and NRL rights Kayo can never make money with its present set up (advertising could change that however).

Edited February 19, 20214 yr by Diamond_Jim

  On 19/02/2021 at 09:07, Diamond_Jim said:

Murdoch has sold his media business to Disney.

He's kept key influential assets. Sky news and the Australian are what buy him influence along with his local tabloids.

Foxtel wasn't sold because of local Australian issues (Telstra was one of the inhibitors).... it's not core in any way believe me.

Do some back of the envelope figures and you can quickly work out that with the amount paid for AFL and NRL rights Kayo can never make money with its present set up (advertising could change that however).

it's all tied in to a larger ecosystem

afl, nrl, cricket, local tabloids, sky news, and then the 'authoritative' voice of the oztrayan

no different to the uk model (epl, sky, sky news, local tabloids, and then the 'authoritative' voice of the times)

  On 19/02/2021 at 00:56, binman said:

I have kayo (but fully get why people don't want it), but even before i got it, I only ever used the replays, in game heat maps and stats and AFL.pro so nothing changes for me.

The big concern for me was not having access to AFL.pro, as it is the one function/tool that is not available anywhere else.

I have pumped it up before but i highly recommend people to use it if they have access to it. You can watch the video of EVERY involvement (basically defined as anything for which a stat is collected for) of EVERY player in EVERY game.

Its fascinating way to view the game. I assume similar vision (perhaps the same vision) is used by the clubs for individual player reviews.

 

Until I read this thread, I had no idea this existed - actually thinking of jumping on just for the player edits, and the heat maps sound really interesting too.

 

  On 04/03/2021 at 03:32, Demonland said:

 

Won't connect on my android phone. 

still no announcement on whether kayo will telecast the grand final

Does Kayo show every AFL game live?  And by every AFL game I mean Demon games

  On 04/03/2021 at 03:55, whatwhatsaywhat said:

still no announcement on whether kayo will telecast the grand final

From my knowledge the deal on these broadcast rights is Channel 7 only.

  On 04/03/2021 at 03:59, old dee said:

From my knowledge the deal on these broadcast rights is Channel 7 only.

yes, that's correct BUT afl live pass included the grand final...so will kayo now get rights to show it too?

Edited March 4, 20214 yr by whatwhatsaywhat

  On 04/03/2021 at 03:58, Pickett2Jackson said:

Does Kayo show every AFL game live?  And by every AFL game I mean Demon games

Yes. Anything on Fox footy (ie; all games) is on Kayo. Questions around GF though, as mentioned above 

  On 04/03/2021 at 04:00, Deemented Are Go! said:

Yes. Anything on Fox footy (ie; all games) is on Kayo. Questions around GF though, as mentioned above 

Awesome, just signed up. 

25 a month seems like a bargain with all the content on there, and you can watch it on TV ...   I only watch AFL so I can just deactivate my account in the off-season.

 

  On 04/03/2021 at 04:19, Pickett2Jackson said:

Awesome, just signed up. 

25 a month seems like a bargain with all the content on there, and you can watch it on TV ...   I only watch AFL so I can just deactivate my account in the off-season.

 

Yeah I recently got rid of Foxtel , and as a Telstra customer (phone) got the $5 a month Kayo deal (for first 12 months) . 
stream it straight onto the telly via my Apple TV thingy 

$25 covers 2 users. Is this 2 concurrent users or 2 devices. i.e. could i have it on 4 devices but only use 2 concurrently?

 

  On 04/03/2021 at 04:24, daisycutter said:

$25 covers 2 users. Is this 2 concurrent users or 2 devices. i.e. could i have it on 4 devices but only use 2 concurrently?

 

Concurrent users

Will the pre-season match vs the Dogs be available on Kayo?

  On 04/03/2021 at 04:33, Pollyanna said:

Will the pre-season match vs the Dogs be available on Kayo?

yes

  On 04/03/2021 at 04:33, Pollyanna said:

Will the pre-season match vs the Dogs be available on Kayo?

A As per above, yes. But also all the AFLW games

  On 04/03/2021 at 05:21, binman said:

A As per above, yes. But also all the AFLW games

Only about 25% are worth watching.

  On 02/02/2021 at 04:30, america de cali said:

The AFL App on Telstra will be integrated with Rupert Murdoch’s Kayo sports app and AFL App users on Telstra will now pay for the Kayo app. This means all other sports now on Kayo including NRL will be included. Some will be happy and others including me will not welcome the bloatware of sports I’m not interested in and having to pay for it. Telstra customers will only pay $5 a month at least for the first year. Then likely they will like be slugged up to the full $25 a month for the Kayo App. It is unclear how this affects AFL App users on other carriers. 
https://www.theage.com.au/business/companies/telstra-to-quit-nrl-afl-streaming-apps-in-sports-strategy-shift-20210202-p56ysc.html

I'm going to miss the really small screen.