On 14/02/2021 at 09:20, DubDee said:

Daw adds almost nothing aside from the dreaded ‘depth’

Ah! I think thats the whole point Dubdee. Depth.

  On 14/02/2021 at 09:19, Demons3031 said:

I've thought long and hard before deciding to post on this and thinking through the various views. I almost posted late last  year suggesting we could look at Majak Daw when we made the move on Preuss and Majak was delisteds

A few of us also had the same thought last year, namely that he would be cheap versatile depth in all areas of the ground. ?

 

  On 14/02/2021 at 09:36, Better days ahead said:

How did he manage to play 54 games of AFL football and kick 43 goals then?

Mostly off his athleticism and potential I’d guess. 10 years on AFL list of a mostly struggling club. Averaged 5 games a season

  On 14/02/2021 at 09:41, John Demonic said:

A few of us also had the same thought last year, namely that he would be cheap versatile depth in all areas of the ground. ?

 

Spot on John D. I think I saw your post last year and you beat me to it. I

not hostile to the idea at all, think its quite a good experiement and could provide much needed cover atm. 

oscar would feel very stiffed though, didnt think we should of got rid of him (even if he was resident demonland whipping boy). 

heard that oscar was training at carlton, does anyone know if he got a spot? 

  On 14/02/2021 at 09:41, Better days ahead said:

Ah! I think thats the whole point Dubdee. Depth.

He is depth down back which we don’t need. Average ruck, poor fwd. 

  On 14/02/2021 at 09:20, DubDee said:

Mature talls like McDonald, M Brown and even Tomnilson? Out talls are pretty balancing. Just need them to fire. Daw adds almost nothing aside from the dreaded ‘depth’

Why is depth 'dreaded' exactly? This is how a list works. You don't have 40+ A graders, it's just not possible. Clearly with our list situation, not just this year, but with our forthcoming OOC players there's a big picture to look at. Daw isn't even on our list yet, he's just been given a chance to show some form that might grant him a rookie spot.

Even if he manages a spot it's probably unlikely he'll play AFL level, but with Brown and Weid out, Jackson still a youngster, Petty coming off no preseason, our main insurance ruck gone, McDonald a gamble at best, Tomlinson not a forward, Lever and May both with recent injury history, OMac gone etc etc it makes sens to me to be looking at a mature swingman as very very cheap insurance.

  On 14/02/2021 at 10:00, DubDee said:

He is depth down back which we don’t need. Average ruck, poor fwd. 

Because there's a whole glut of above-average rucks just sitting round waiting for the phone to ring.

Of course he's average. Average is fine, and he's at least as good/better ruck alternative than anyone else we have.

  On 14/02/2021 at 05:20, Whispering_Jack said:

Demons hand AFL lifeline to Daw

Door open for discarded Roo after receiving invitation to train with Demons

I’m not sure what to make of this. My recollection of Daw’s form on comeback was that he struggled. This is virtually a second lifeline and he has also had personal issues in his life of late. Things won’t be easy for him given the physical and mental barriers he has to overcome. It’s almost a flashback to last year and Harley Bennell but at least the club is thinking outside the square. 

 

There was a game last year where he looked quite good getting to contests etc can't remember who it was against possibly Essendon? Eddie was commentating and was talking him up the whole game.

  On 14/02/2021 at 10:00, DubDee said:

He is depth down back which we don’t need. Average ruck, poor fwd. 

I think you might be overestimating out KPD depth.

MAY: good run with injuries in 2020, horrid in 2019.
LEVER: Two knee reconstructions.
SMITH: Serious groin/OP and shoulder injuries. (Yet to play a great game at senior level.)
PETTY: Zero games in 2020 and limited preseason.
TOMLINSON: Can play down back, but wouldn’t want to see him in a stopping role if May was injured.

We have next to no flexibility with someone like McDonald due to injuries to Weideman and Brown.

We have good key position stocks down back if they are all fit and firing.  However, they all have their history of significant injuries and when a couple of them are out, the shelves look pretty bare.

 

Is he actually injury prone? I thought he largely missed time due to his broken pelvis/hip after jumping from the bridge. Does he have a history of other injuries that kept him out of footy?

  On 14/02/2021 at 10:16, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

I think you might be overestimating out KPD depth.

MAY: good run with injuries in 2020, horrid in 2019.
LEVER: Two knee reconstructions.
SMITH: Serious groin/OP and shoulder injuries. (Yet to play a great game at senior level.)
PETTY: Zero games in 2020 and limited preseason.
TOMLINSON: Can play down back, but wouldn’t want to see him in a stopping role if May was injured.

We have next to no flexibility with someone like McDonald due to injuries to Weideman and Brown.

We have good key position stocks down back if they are all fit and firing.  However, they all have their history of significant injuries and when a couple of them are out, the shelves look pretty bare.

 

The fact Smith is 3rd on the list proves your point.

  On 14/02/2021 at 10:02, Lord Nev said:

Why is depth 'dreaded' exactly? This is how a list works. You don't have 40+ A graders, it's just not possible. Clearly with our list situation, not just this year, but with our forthcoming OOC players there's a big picture to look at. Daw isn't even on our list yet, he's just been given a chance to show some form that might grant him a rookie spot.

Even if he manages a spot it's probably unlikely he'll play AFL level, but with Brown and Weid out, Jackson still a youngster, Petty coming off no preseason, our main insurance ruck gone, McDonald a gamble at best, Tomlinson not a forward, Lever and May both with recent injury history, OMac gone etc etc it makes sens to me to be looking at a mature swingman as very very cheap insurance.

Thanks for the reply. 
I guess in essence I’d prefer to not take a bloke who has proven over 11 seasons not capable of playing AFL standard footy. I’d take a punt if someone else. 
thanks also for explaining how a ‘list works’. Most enlightening 

  On 14/02/2021 at 08:15, nosoupforme said:

Harley Bennell   I cannot think of anyone else  BA.

who's BA?

  On 14/02/2021 at 10:16, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

I think you might be overestimating out KPD depth.

MAY: good run with injuries in 2020, horrid in 2019.
LEVER: Two knee reconstructions.
SMITH: Serious groin/OP and shoulder injuries. (Yet to play a great game at senior level.)
PETTY: Zero games in 2020 and limited preseason.
TOMLINSON: Can play down back, but wouldn’t want to see him in a stopping role if May was injured.

We have next to no flexibility with someone like McDonald due to injuries to Weideman and Brown.

We have good key position stocks down back if they are all fit and firing.  However, they all have their history of significant injuries and when a couple of them are out, the shelves look pretty bare.

 

You could be right. Maybe this is what they are thinking. I’d have Tomo as a lock on the backline with May and lever with petty and smith as back up. And you live with just two with hibbo and rivers

  On 14/02/2021 at 10:27, DubDee said:

Thanks for the reply. 
I guess in essence I’d prefer to not take a bloke who has proven over 11 seasons not capable of playing AFL standard footy. I’d take a punt if someone else. 
thanks also for explaining how a ‘list works’. Most enlightening 

Mate, I get where you're coming from, I don't think anyone is legitimately excited by the prospect, but I don't know how else to put it to you other than that's just the complexities for balancing a list IMO.

He's clearly 'capable' of playing AFL footy given he's played 11 seasons. Not that I think there's a high chance of him being called upon often should he get a list spot though.

  On 14/02/2021 at 06:15, 58er said:

If Clint Biscuit can overcome issues of delistment from Geelong and survive then Majak May be motivated to overcome his.

Who are you?

  On 14/02/2021 at 10:40, Lord Nev said:

Mate, I get where you're coming from, I don't think anyone is legitimately excited by the prospect, but I don't know how else to put it to you other than that's just the complexities for balancing a list IMO.

He's clearly 'capable' of playing AFL footy given he's played 11 seasons. Not that I think there's a high chance of him being called upon often should he get a list spot though.

You don’t have to argue back. I’m just putting my opinion out there 

  On 14/02/2021 at 10:47, DubDee said:

You don’t have to argue back. I’m just putting my opinion out there 

Sorry for interrupting your blog then. Proceed.

Ok Ill be brave....Welcome to MFC Majak, Hopefully u provide us with viable multi footy options and a few lfe perspectives as well. Good luck PF

Edited February 14, 20214 yr by picket fence

Majak if needed could be used on some tall  opposition with experience  Has played some good games and kicked multiple goals where his best was 6 goals against the Bulldogs and 4  goals in an Elimination final against Adelaide 2016.  Mind you he has finals experience.

In a game against the Dees  in 2017 he had 18 HO and 7 tackles rucking against Max so he is no slouch  and he is  good insurance to have,  Dees lost that game by 4 points and  Majak played a part in the win.  Played 18 games in 2018.and 2019 of course  had personal issues however l believe he is worth the risk .   

 

 

Good luck sir! I do hope it works out for you and the Dees. 
 

Ps Norf Heidelberg to Casey is a fair old hike! 

  On 14/02/2021 at 08:40, RedLegs23 said:

Spoke to him today. Humble as always, seems pumped to get stuck in.

 

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How did he look physically mate? Doing a pre season for North Heidelberg is stark different to AFL. 

Makes you wonder how much catching he needs to do in terms of AFL fitness.

  On 14/02/2021 at 10:29, daisycutter said:

who's BA?

      Bombay Airconditioning                   

I like it. Now Weideman and Brown are injured we need  mature key position player backup. Bonus is he can play either end or ruck.