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1991 Melbourne Versus North Melbourne

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I've been watching this over the past few days and find it fascinating for the following reasons:

A. It was played while the Southern Stand was being demolished.

B. Three North players were/are fathers of present day melbourne players: Paul Spargo, Mark Brayshaw and Sean Smith.

C. Melbourne were a bloody good side that year. Despite a huge injury list that day they kicked what is still their highest score.

D. Players could hit targets in those days.

E. Jakovich could not get a game that day.

F. Brett Lovett was a very great player.

G. Luke Beveridge was more than a handy player. Down the track, as a Melbourne Coach?????

H. Stynes was a phenomenon.

I. As was Todd Viney.

J. Rodney Grinter was more than a hit man: he could play.

K.Darren Bennett was the victim of the Jackovitch phenomenon. Before Jacko arrived he was a phenomenal full forward. 

L. What a pity Rod Owen did his knee. He could have been anything.

M. Kevin Dyson could play.

N. Wayne Carey was always a thug.

O.Goalie Campbell was a very handy player.

P.Outs that day included Greg Healey, O'Dwyer, Jakovich, Schwarz, Lyon, Yeats, Heaver. Tingay, Wight, Obst, Flintoff.

Q. Cuthbertson. What may have been ...

That's about it.

If ever a side had the ability to win a flag, this and '94 and 98' take the cake.

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    14 hours ago, dieter said:

    Brett Lovett was a very great player.

    Brett Lovett was an incredible footballer. He was skilful, determined and extremely consistent. He was a gun. I literally can’t say enough great things about him. 

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    Yep. Great sides that always went to sleep for 5-6 weeks and scraped into the Finals

    The MFC does not handle pressure 

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    2 hours ago, The heart beats true said:

    Brett Lovett was an incredible footballer. He was skilful, determined and extremely consistent. He was a gun. I literally can’t say enough great things about him. 

    Didn’t he come top three in the 1990 Brownlow?

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    4 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    Didn’t he come top three in the 1990 Brownlow?

    He got 15 votes, Liberatore, the winner got 18. Graham Wright was second with 17, Silvagni third with 16.

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    3 hours ago, The heart beats true said:

    Brett Lovett was an incredible footballer. He was skilful, determined and extremely consistent. He was a gun. I literally can’t say enough great things about him. 

    A nice surprise when I walked into the Inverloch Club Rooms to see his picture hanging on the wall as an ex player

    Edited by Demon_spurs

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    18 hours ago, dieter said:

    I've been watching this over the past few days and find it fascinating for the following reasons:

    A. It was played while the Southern Stand was being demolished.

    B. Three North players were/are fathers of present day melbourne players: Paul Spargo, Mark Brayshaw and Sean Smith.

    C. Melbourne were a bloody good side that year. Despite a huge injury list that day they kicked what is still their highest score.

    D. Players could hit targets in those days.

    E. Jackovich could not get a game that day.

    F. Brett Lovett was a very great player.

    G. Luke Beveridge was more than a handy player. Down the track, as a Melbourne Coach?????

    H. Stynes was a phenomenon.

    I. As was Todd Viney.

    J. Rodney Grinter was more than a hit man: he could play.

    K.Darren Bennett was the victim of the Jackovitch phenomenon. Before Jacko arrived he was a phenomenal full forward. 

    L. What a pity Rod Owen did his knee. He could have been anything.

    M. Kevin Dyson could play.

    N. Wayne Carey was always a thug.

    O.Goalie Campbell was a very handy player.

    P.Outs that day included Greg Healey, O'Dwyer, Jackovich, Schwarz, Lyon, Yeats, Heaver. Tingay, Wight, Obst, Flintoff.

    Q. Cuthbertson. What may have been....

    That's about it.

    If ever a side had the ability to win a flag, this and '94 and 98' take the cake.

     

     

     

     

     

    Agree with most of this but calling Darren Bennett "phenomenal" is way over the top.

    Coleman was phenomenal ditto Ablett, Jackovich briefly & probably Jurrah for a millisecond. Bennett was very good on his day & sometime spectacular but nowhere near phenomenal.

     

     

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    4 minutes ago, Cranky Franky said:

    Agree with most of this but calling Darren Bennett "phenomenal" is way over the top.

    Coleman was phenomenal ditto Ablett, Jackovich briefly & probably Jurrah for a millisecond. Bennett was very good on his day & sometime spectacular but nowhere near phenomenal.

     

     

    I wish we had a few blokes who could kick as well as Bennett!!

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    18 hours ago, dieter said:

     

    A. It was played while the Southern Stand was being demolished.

     

     

    Always been a bit of a downer that the Jakovich show was in front of a huge construction area.  That mid air soccer goal deserved to be in front of a packed stand.

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    17 minutes ago, Cranky Franky said:

    Agree with most of this but calling Darren Bennett "phenomenal" is way over the top.

    Coleman was phenomenal ditto Ablett, Jackovich briefly & probably Jurrah for a millisecond. Bennett was very good on his day & sometime spectacular but nowhere near phenomenal.

     

     

    Before Jacovich arrived he kicked a lot of goals. He also had his share of injuries. Post the mighty J, he was wasted at CHF, not the same player. Have a look at his pre-Jacko stats...

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    13 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

    I wish we had a few blokes who could kick as well as Bennett!!

    He could also take a mark: knew where to lead, and more importantly, there were players upfield who could kick the bloody thing straight to him.

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    20 hours ago, dieter said:

    E. Jakovich could not get a game that day.

     

    That's makes his 11 goals even better.

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    1 minute ago, Tony Tea said:

    That's makes his 11 goals even better.

    Ohh, you mean the other game.

    We beat North by 70 and 52 in 1991. And yet it's North not far off a flag. Sigh.

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    15 minutes ago, Tony Tea said:

    Ohh, you mean the other game.

    We beat North by 70 and 52 in 1991. And yet it's North not far off a flag. Sigh.

    Yeah, it was the early game...it was still quite warm, apparently.

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    3 hours ago, Cranky Franky said:

    Agree with most of this but calling Darren Bennett "phenomenal" is way over the top.

    Coleman was phenomenal ditto Ablett, Jackovich briefly & probably Jurrah for a millisecond. Bennett was very good on his day & sometime spectacular but nowhere near phenomenal.

     

     

    Bennett kicked 87 goals in 1990. Are you aware of that? He averaged 2.8 goals a game in his 74 games. Like I say, his usefulness was obliterated by the Jacovich phenomenon but pre-Jack he was the goods. Before the Jacovich train arrived in a game against Adelaide in Round 9, he kicked 154 goals in 43 games, at an average of 3.5 a game.

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    Darren Bennett having a shot at goal on the Gee inside the square many times at least 65 metres out  and the ball would travel into the crowd. At times well over the posts. The city end was his favourite end. He was a straight kick from a long  way out . Many of the games l have watched from the wings over the decades. 

    Jackovich"s inclusion in the side pushed Bennett out to CHF and struggled to have same effect . Yep dieter is on the money there.

     

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    3 minutes ago, nosoupforme said:

    Darren Bennett having a shot at goal on the Gee inside the square many times at least 65 metres out  and the ball would travel into the crowd. At times well over the posts. The city end was his favourite end. He was a straight kick from a long  way out . Many of the games l have watched from the wings over the decades. 

    Jackovich"s inclusion in the side pushed Bennett out to CHF and struggled to have same effect . Yep dieter is on the money there.

     

    Before the Jack train, he averaged 3.5 goals a game in 44 games - a total of 154.

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    Only because l was at the 2 games at the Gee Melbourne kicked their  equalled highest score in 1991 round 5 being  28  14   182 against North as it had been mentioned as North had 27 scoring shots in that game.   kicking 17 10 112

    However they achieved the same score 5 years previously IN 1986 of 28  14  182  against North again as they also had 27 scoring shot. Kicking  14 13 97. At the gee. 

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    2 hours ago, dieter said:

    Bennett kicked 87 goals in 1990. Are you aware of that? He averaged 2.8 goals a game in his 74 games. Like I say, his usefulness was obliterated by the Jacovich phenomenon but pre-Jack he was the goods. Before the Jacovich train arrived in a game against Adelaide in Round 9, he kicked 154 goals in 43 games, at an average of 3.5 a game.

    Yes I saw him play and 87 goals is good but you need to kick 100+ regularly to be phenomenal.  His record is similar to Jackos.  He was terrible in the wet or if the ball hit the ground he was hopeless.

    And it is simplistic to say he was ruined by Jackovich's arrival as they played several games together where both of them & the team did well.

    When Jackovich arrived Bennett more often played in the fwd pocket than CH FWD.

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    1 minute ago, Cranky Franky said:

    Yes I saw him play and 87 goals is good but you need to kick 100+ regularly to be phenomenal.  His record is similar to Jackos.  He was terrible in the wet or if the ball hit the ground he was hopeless.

    And it is simplistic to say he was ruined by Jackovich's arrival as they played several games together where both of them & the team did well.

    When Jackovich arrived Bennett more often played in the fwd pocket than CH FWD.

    Whatever. Let's agree to disagree. 

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    11 hours ago, Cranky Franky said:

    Yes I saw him play and 87 goals is good but you need to kick 100+ regularly to be phenomenal.  His record is similar to Jackos.  He was terrible in the wet or if the ball hit the ground he was hopeless.

    And it is simplistic to say he was ruined by Jackovich's arrival as they played several games together where both of them & the team did well.

    When Jackovich arrived Bennett more often played in the fwd pocket than CH FWD.

    Lets hope the coaches can get the team to make Brown our next phenomenal forward.

    If he can get 100 ( and his records of 70+ at northwould indicate he could) we would be well on the way to success.

    Other forwards will pick up goals around him if we make him our focus.

    Not BHAG but 100 for Brown should be our aim.

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    What happened to Cuthbertson?

    I remember watching him in the reserves and thinking he was going to be a superstar.

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    1 hour ago, Wrecker45 said:

    What happened to Cuthbertson?

    I remember watching him in the reserves and thinking he was going to be a superstar.

    He was: in 1991 he kicked 25 goals in six games, then, like a shooting star, fell to earth and disintegrated.

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    On 12/13/2020 at 12:08 PM, Sir Why You Little said:

    Yep. Great sides that always went to sleep for 5-6 weeks and scraped into the Finals

    The MFC does not handle pressure 

    Since 64 Never has and to date ....... don't look likely to either, Just look at our abysmal games against Freo and Sydney when it counted this year. And I could go on and onn and onnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. Mentally very fragile!

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