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Cal Twomeys top 25 prospects last updated in October

https://www.afl.com.au/news/514307/cal-twomey-s-2020-phantom-form-guide-october-update

And his next best 15 prospects

https://www.afl.com.au/news/515600/phantom-form-guide-extra-the-next-15-prospects

Draft resources from alleged informed U18 observers on Bigfooty

Knightmares Draft resource

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/knightmare-2020-draft-almanac.1234618/

eDPS Draft resource

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/edps-draft-watch-2020.1237689/

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For the first time since 2004, where I predicted Melbourne taking Matthew Bate and Jordan Russell, I've decided to post a return of the Goodoil Phantom Draft.  Here is the first round, with the rest t

Here's my updated phantom draft from last week, with round 3 as well now. I've still got us taking the same players, as well as Winder in the 3rd round. I'll have a short writeup of our picks below ph

Thanks to both Gawndog98 and Goodoil for your bravery in committing to a phantom draft.  I like Goodoil’s lateral thinking on the potential pick trades. The one for Collingwood is particularly interes

AFL draft central has a good run down of their top 30 ranked players

https://afl.draftcentral.com.au/2020/11/02/draft-central-power-rankings-november-2020/

They have Finlay Macrae, Jack Carroll and Brayden Cook at #22, #23 and #24 respectively which should be within our picks once they've been pushed out for academy picks.

 

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2 minutes ago, Nascent said:

AFL draft central has a good run down of their top 30 ranked players

https://afl.draftcentral.com.au/2020/11/02/draft-central-power-rankings-november-2020/

They have Finlay Macrae, Jack Carroll and Brayden Cook at #22, #23 and #24 respectively which should be within our picks once they've been pushed out for academy picks.

 

Sums up why it's a good year to have multiple late first round picks. Other draft guides have Macrae & Carroll both in the top 12 or so prospects. Almost a guarantee for someone who we rate highly to slide to us.

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My random smokey for a later pick is Conor Stone, a 188cm 81kg forward/winger from Oakleigh Chargers.

Draft Central has a comparison podcast between him and Cook as well.

"The players under our microscope are South Adelaide’s Brayden Cook, and Oakleigh Chargers’ Conor Stone. They measure up virtually identically in terms of size and athletic attributes, with both prospects having also enjoyed steep rises on the back of their on-field performances. Cook has come from the clouds this year to consolidate his standing as a draft bolter, while Stone burst onto the scene with promising showings in the Chargers’ 2019 NAB League premiership team. Their claims to dual-position status as deep forwards who can also play on the wing adds another air of similarity, making them an ideal pair to set alongside one another."

EXPLAINER | Pocket Podcast: Brayden Cook vs. Conor Stone

The AFL website also mentions he was a candidate to move up the draft boards in his top age year before COVID ground a halt to the Vic U18 program. Could be a good candidate to replace ANB or Melksham as a medium forward with potential to move onto the wing.

“Stone made an immediate impression at NAB League level last year, booting five goals in his debut for the Chargers against the Murray Bushrangers. The medium and powerful forward remained a part of the Chargers' line-up from then on, including kicking two goals in their preliminary final against Sandringham and featuring in their Grand Final win a week later. Stone is a natural footballer who could have shot up the ranks this year.” 

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6 hours ago, Nascent said:

AFL draft central has a good run down of their top 30 ranked players

https://afl.draftcentral.com.au/2020/11/02/draft-central-power-rankings-november-2020/

They have Finlay Macrae, Jack Carroll and Brayden Cook at #22, #23 and #24 respectively which should be within our picks once they've been pushed out for academy picks.

 

Six of the top 20 are NGA, zone or academy picks. Pick 18 is effectively pick #24 imv.  Macrae and Carroll will be gone. Brayden Cook is the most likely. This is in my 2020 phantom.   Don’t forget Isaiah Winder (Peel Thunder) as the one who we will be tempted to draft.  He’s very classy and ready to play imo in 2021 as a dangerous half forward.  

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In Knightmare’s draft, Melbourne’s pick #18 turns out to be #23:-

23. Melbourne - Sam Berry
Height, Weight: 181cm, 83kg
Profile: Winning a high proportion of the ball in contested situations, Berry plays with aggression and tackles strongly. He balances the aggression with acceleration out of stoppages, reliable distribution by hand, composure with ball in hand and precise kick placement out in front of leading inside 50m targets.

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... and pick #19 turns out to be pick #24:-

24. Melbourne - Isiah Winder
Height, Weight: 180cm, 79kg
Profile: An athletic utility, Winder tested strongly at the WA draft combine across the board. While super athletic with his speed and leap in particular exceptional, Winder combines this with strong hands overhead, one-touch ground level skills and excellent composure and placement of kicks out in front of inside 50m targets to lead onto.

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... pick #28 turns into pick #36:-

36. Melbourne - Matt Allison
Height, Weight: 192cm, 80kg
Profile: Allison is a strong-marking tall forward who reads the ball well in flight and possesses excellent endurance. Matt is the son of Coburg VFA Team of the Century player, Brian Allison.

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16 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

In Knightmare’s draft, Melbourne’s pick #18 turns out to be #23:-

23. Melbourne - Sam Berry
Height, Weight: 181cm, 83kg
Profile: Winning a high proportion of the ball in contested situations, Berry plays with aggression and tackles strongly. He balances the aggression with acceleration out of stoppages, reliable distribution by hand, composure with ball in hand and precise kick placement out in front of leading inside 50m targets.

 

7 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

... pick #28 turns into pick #36:-

36. Melbourne - Matt Allison
Height, Weight: 192cm, 80kg
Profile: Allison is a strong-marking tall forward who reads the ball well in flight and possesses excellent endurance. Matt is the son of Coburg VFA Team of the Century player, Brian Allison.

An inside mid & a tall forward. Thanks for nothing, KM 🤣

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8 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

 

Every year Chris Doerre (aka Knightmare) puts together one of the best Phantom Drafts. Here are the first two rounds of his 2020 version ~

AFL Draft: ESPN's two-round phantom draft

Knightmare must think that Melbourne’s hunting for midgets. He has us being outbid by Sydney for a 171cm NGA pick before Berry and later on by a 172cm Fremantle NGA player. Apart from Kozzie, we still have Spargo, Chandler and Bedford - all small fellers.

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1 hour ago, Elwood 3184 said:

Knightmare must think that Melbourne’s hunting for midgets. He has us being outbid by Sydney for a 171cm NGA pick before Berry and later on by a 172cm Fremantle NGA player. Apart from Kozzie, we still have Spargo, Chandler and Bedford - all small fellers.

what has Bedford and Chandler shown?

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2 hours ago, Elwood 3184 said:

Knightmare must think that Melbourne’s hunting for midgets. He has us being outbid by Sydney for a 171cm NGA pick before Berry and later on by a 172cm Fremantle NGA player. Apart from Kozzie, we still have Spargo, Chandler and Bedford - all small fellers.

Most fans Elwood think another ready made small crumber is ONE GAP worth  looking at Plus an outside winger/ runner   HF flanker that kicks goals and maybe a FORWARD or versatile KEy position type.
I think we all agree that all of the players must have composure and good disposal skills.

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It will be really interesting to see how Jason Taylor attacks this draft. 

Will he stick to the best available practice, or will we be targeting positions where we have holes in our list?

There are a lot of KPP in the top end of the draft. Will he pick one if they slide?

Picking another inside mid would likey annoy many of us.

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4 hours ago, 58er said:

Most fans Elwood think another ready made small crumber is ONE GAP worth  looking at Plus an outside winger/ runner   HF flanker that kicks goals and maybe a FORWARD or versatile KEy position type.
I think we all agree that all of the players must have composure and good disposal skills.

I don’t have issues with small crumbing forwards but it’s very rare that players of 171cm or 172cm make the grade. 

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Rather than trading the picks and moving up I think id prefer to keep picks 18 and 19 and take whatever talent slides.  We could potentially get two great kids that should have gone top 10.

There will be mistakes made between picks 1-17 and we can seriously benefit from this.  We need depth on our  list so this is a prime opportunity for us.

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15 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

In Knightmare’s draft, Melbourne’s pick #18 turns out to be #23:-

23. Melbourne - Sam Berry
Height, Weight: 181cm, 83kg
Profile: Winning a high proportion of the ball in contested situations, Berry plays with aggression and tackles strongly. He balances the aggression with acceleration out of stoppages, reliable distribution by hand, composure with ball in hand and precise kick placement out in front of leading inside 50m targets.

Pick 23.. jesus.   So we gave up our 1st rounder next year for picks 23 and 24 then. 

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1 hour ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

Pick 23.. jesus.   So we gave up our 1st rounder next year for picks 23 and 24 then. 

Look on the bright side - if we win the premiership pick 18 will become 20-23 after F/S and FA comp picks.  So we (roughly) get 2 for the price of 1!!  And we get the two players a year earlier.

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2 hours ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

Pick 23.. jesus.   So we gave up our 1st rounder next year for picks 23 and 24 then. 

It will fall that way roughly after academy picks etc yes. It's why I think we still need to trade our way further up the draft board, as the players we'd be really keen on (Perkins, Macrae, Cook types) will go in the 10-15 range.

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