Jump to content

Featured Replies

1 hour ago, Bozo said:

 

Our forward stocks include Petty and May - remember those guys who always seem to mark the ball in the most challenging situations against all- comers? What we actually need are a couple of offensive key backs..

May is about as likely to play forward seriously for MFC than give up drinking. Petty is the gun. 

 

We chose to play Brown on one leg and Melksham as a second tall in two finals instead of Weid. In fact we were willing days before our last final to debut JVR if Gawn missed rather than play Weid as a forward/ruck. This should show you how much we rate Weid. This talk about needing him as a back up, we just did and did not use him. Let Weid have a. Another crack at it elsewhere and clear the space, 

Stated on the Grundy file that Cooliwood have threatened to keep grundy as they don't like our offer of pick 27. They want our 13! If no Grundy the club must keep Weid.

 

 

46 minutes ago, Older demon said:

Stated on the Grundy file that Cooliwood have threatened to keep grundy as they don't like our offer of pick 27. They want our 13! If no Grundy the club must keep Weid.

Too [censored] bad. They wanted top 25 pick………..27 is a lot closer than 13. Difference between the 2 is 53 draft pick points (equivalent to pick 69). 
 

13 + 27 = 1915 points for 16 + Grundy (placing his value at pick 22). Difference between pick 22 and pick 25 is 89 draft points (equivalent to pick 66).

Filth getting their knickers in a knot over pick 69 instead of 66. [censored] em.


13 hours ago, Older demon said:

Stated on the Grundy file that Cooliwood have threatened to keep grundy as they don't like our offer of pick 27. They want our 13! If no Grundy the club must keep Weid.

 
Dees should trade out picks 13, 27 and F2 to Cats in return for their 7 and 25.  Dees trade 25 to Filth for Grundy. Cats trade 13 to Filth for Henry.
 
Dees free up $1m in salary cap by trading out Weids, Hunt, Bedford etc (Jackos exit covers Grundy). Dees target Whitfield (or Georgiades) by trading out our future first round pick plus what we get for Weids.
 
Dees bring in Grundy and Whitfield (or Georgiades) and go to draft with pick 7.

Edited by Big Red Rooster

1 minute ago, Clint Bizkit said:

If we lose Weideman who is back up for when Gawn and Grundy are injured?

Considering the Weid is an average ruck I’m not too bothered. Recruit a mature age ruck for cover in the draft or PSD. T Mac, Tomo etc can do it in an emergency 

 
Just now, DubDee said:

Considering the Weid is an average ruck I’m not too bothered. Recruit a mature age ruck for cover in the draft or PSD. T Mac, Tomo etc can do it in an emergency 

He played the second ruck well this year.

He’s more suited to that than as a sole forward.

25 minutes ago, Big Red Rooster said:
 
Dees should trade out picks 13, 27 and F2 to Cats in return for their 7 and 25.  Dees trade 25 to Filth for Grundy. Cats trade 13 to Filth for Henry.
 
Dees free up $1m in salary cap by trading out Weids, Hunt, Bedford etc (Jackos exit covers Grundy). Dees target Whitfield (or Georgiades) by trading out our future first round picks.
 
Dees bring in Grundy and Whitfield (or Georgiades) and go to draft with pick 7.

It just seems like a lot of work just to move up 2 picks and appease Collywobblewood for their own mistake. Pick 27, maybe a later one thrown in, take it or leave it. 


2 hours ago, layzie said:

It just seems like a lot of work just to move up 2 picks and appease Collywobblewood for their own mistake. Pick 27, maybe a later one thrown in, take it or leave it. 

We'd also be getting pick 7 (in addition to landing Grundy with pick 25). This would be a big win for us given we were originally keen to land a top 7 pick from the Jacko trade (i.e. the top 7 picks in this years draft are rated very highly...but it drops off after that)

12 minutes ago, Big Red Rooster said:

We'd also be getting pick 7 (in addition to landing Grundy with pick 25). This would be a big win for us given we were originally keen to land a top 7 pick from the Jacko trade (i.e. the top 7 picks in this years draft are rated very highly...but it drops off after that)

This is true, sorry I should have absorbed more after the first line my bad. 

24 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

Sydney have 14, 17, 37, 75 and all next year's picks so if they finish the same 17, 36, 55, 73

Doubt we'd get 37 or F2nd, probably F3rd - something like 55

I wouldn't do it for that unless it closed another deal for us.

Edited by old55

16 hours ago, Older demon said:

Stated on the Grundy file that Cooliwood have threatened to keep grundy as they don't like our offer of pick 27. They want our 13! If no Grundy the club must keep Weid.

Agree...the Weid trade should be dependent on this.

Weideman can also play as a defender and part time ruck if the Grundy trade flops which i seriously hope it does.  Allows Petty to go forward which is a must if we're to improve our forward woes in 2023 IMV.

Otherwise we're betting a little too much on a suspect Macca returning to decent form and a brand new rookie in JVR.

I would go with the above anyway and throw the picks at other much needed/more valuable talent to fill a mid/HB role and a KTF.

The club should just call off the Grundy trade if they won't take 27.  Not worth anything more than that regardless.  Will be seriously [censored] off if we cave on this one.


4 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

If we lose Weideman who is back up for when Gawn and Grundy are injured?

You pretty much answered your own question CB.

Also we still don't know 100% that Grundy is fully cleared of his injury woes.  The FD said they did a full check but im not convinced as we are dealing with a very shonky shadey club.  Mind you most of them are but some more than others IMV.

17 hours ago, Lil_red_fire_engine said:

We chose to play Brown on one leg and Melksham as a second tall in two finals instead of Weid. In fact we were willing days before our last final to debut JVR if Gawn missed rather than play Weid as a forward/ruck. This should show you how much we rate Weid. This talk about needing him as a back up, we just did and did not use him. Let Weid have a. Another crack at it elsewhere and clear the space, 

Unfortunately for Sam this is reality. I'm surprised it hasn't got more attention on Demonland, or indeed more broadly.

Bottom line we absolutely desperate for a second tall forward. We had one in Weed, who by the by was a top 10 draft pick, and decided not to use him. 

I'm sure Goody was hugely frustrated that Weed wasn't up for the job, and as i say i'm surprised there hasn't been more angst towards Sam for not stepping up when he needed. 

1 hour ago, old55 said:

Sydney have 14, 17, 37, 75 and all next year's picks so if they finish the same 17, 36, 55, 73

Doubt we'd get 37 or F2nd, probably F3rd - something like 55

I wouldn't do it for that unless it closed another deal for us.

Would a Sam Reid deal net us two wins purely because he's not playing against us anymore under the Kent Kingsley Rule?

4 minutes ago, binman said:

Unfortunately for Sam this is reality. I'm surprised it hasn't got more attention on Demonland, or indeed more broadly.

I'm sure Goody was hugely frustrated that Weed wasn't up for the job, and as i say i'm surprised there hasn't been more angst towards Sam for not stepping up when he needed. 

If a player is not good enough, it’s not his fault, then there is not much point showing “angst” towards him is there? Most DL’s realise this. I’m surprised you are surprised to be honest.

16 minutes ago, binman said:

Unfortunately for Sam this is reality. I'm surprised it hasn't got more attention on Demonland, or indeed more broadly.

Bottom line we absolutely desperate for a second tall forward. We had one in Weed, who by the by was a top 10 draft pick, and decided not to use him. 

I'm sure Goody was hugely frustrated that Weed wasn't up for the job, and as i say i'm surprised there hasn't been more angst towards Sam for not stepping up when he needed. 

How does our community benefit from disparaging a young bloke in this way? I’m glad we don’t [censored] dead horses in this manner around here (often at least) 

Note: that’s a very precious word to censor DL. I mean it’s in the dictionary after all, hardly offensive! 

Edited by Smokey


4 hours ago, Big Red Rooster said:
 
Dees should trade out picks 13, 27 and F2 to Cats in return for their 7 and 25.  Dees trade 25 to Filth for Grundy. Cats trade 13 to Filth for Henry.
 
Dees free up $1m in salary cap by trading out Weids, Hunt, Bedford etc (Jackos exit covers Grundy). Dees target Whitfield (or Georgiades) by trading out our future first round pick plus what we get for Weids.
 
Dees bring in Grundy and Whitfield (or Georgiades) and go to draft with pick 7.

If we could somehow land Whitfield & Geogiades.  I havent heard of us being in the hunt for any of these reasonable prospects though.  What makes you think they're in play (for us) BRR?

26 minutes ago, Smokey said:

How does our community benefit from disparaging a young bloke in this way? I’m glad we don’t [censored] dead horses in this manner around here (often at least)

It doesn't.

I wasn't suggesting people should be disparaging. I certainly haven't.

Perhaps I should have said I'm pleasantly surprised there hadn't been much angst towards him.

34 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

If a player is not good enough, it’s not his fault, then there is not much point showing “angst” towards him is there? Most DL’s realise this. I’m surprised you are surprised to be honest.

All fair points.

But in terms of being surprised, I have been posting on dl for over 10 years now, and I can think of quite a few players who have not been afforded the same respect.

Melksham is just one recent example. 

 
2 minutes ago, binman said:

All fair points.

But in terms of being surprised, I have been posting on dl for over 10 years now, and I can think of quite a few players who have not been afforded the same respect.

Melksham is just one recent example. 

I’d suggest that says more about Sam as a person than anything else. I think everyone wanted him to make it. 
And Melky is an import, so doesn’t have that same birthing connection

53 minutes ago, binman said:

Unfortunately for Sam this is reality. I'm surprised it hasn't got more attention on Demonland, or indeed more broadly.

Bottom line we absolutely desperate for a second tall forward. We had one in Weed, who by the by was a top 10 draft pick, and decided not to use him. 

I'm sure Goody was hugely frustrated that Weed wasn't up for the job, and as i say i'm surprised there hasn't been more angst towards Sam for not stepping up when he needed. 

The angst,  fr me anyway, was more the year before last. This year most of us had already given up on him anyway. He did kick 4.3 v the Bombers in round 2? and I briefly got my hopes up again. But that’s Sam isn’t it. Always an appetiser and never the main meal! 


Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

Featured Content

  • GAMEDAY: West Coast

    It's Game Day and the Demons have a chance to notch up their third consecutive win — something they haven’t done since Round 5, 2024. But to do it, they’ll need to exorcise the Demons of last year’s disastrous trip out West. Can the Dees continue their momentum, right the wrongs of that fateful clash, and take another step up the ladder on the road to redemption?

      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 36 replies
    Demonland
  • FEATURE: 1925

    A hundred years ago today, on 2 May 1925, Melbourne kicked off the new season with a 47 point victory over St Kilda to take top place on the VFL ladder after the opening round of the new season.  Top place was a relatively unknown position for the team then known as the “Fuchsias.” They had finished last in 1923 and rose by only one place in the following year although the final home and away round heralded a promise of things to come when they surprised the eventual premiers Essendon. That victory set the stage for more improvement and it came rapidly. In this series, I will tell the story of how the 1925 season unfolded for the Melbourne Football Club and how it made the VFL finals for the first time in a decade on the way to the ultimate triumph a year later.

      • Love
      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 0 replies
    Demonland
  • PREVIEW: West Coast

    Saturday’s election night game in Perth between the West Coast Eagles and Melbourne represents 18th vs 15th which makes it a tough decision as to which party to favour. The Eagles have yet to break the ice under their new coach in Andrew McQualter who is the second understudy in a row to confront Demon Coach Simon Goodwin who was also winless until a fortnight ago. On that basis, many punters might be considering to go with the donkey vote but I’ve been assigned with the task of helping readers to come to a considered opinion on this matter of vital importance across the nation. It was almost a year ago that I wrote a preview here of the Demons’ away game against the Eagles (under the name William from Waalitj because it was Indigenous Round).  I issued a warning that it was a danger game, based on my local knowledge that the home team were no longer easybeats and that they possessed a wunderkind generational player in Harley Reid who was capable of producing stellar performances playing among men a decade and more older than he.  At the time, the Eagles already had two wins off the back of a couple of the young man’s masterclasses and they had recently given the Bombers a scare straight after their Anzac Day blockbuster draw against the then reigning premiers.

      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 1 reply
    Demonland
  • NON-MFC: Round 08

    Round 08 of the 2025 AFL Season kicks off on Thursday with a must-win game for the Bombers to stay in touch with the top eight, while the struggling Roos seek a morale-boosting upset. Friday sees the Saints desperate for a win as well if they are to stay in finals contention and their opponents the Dockers will be eager to crack in to the Top 8 with a win on the road. Saturday kicks off with a pivotal clash for both sides asthe Bulldogs look to solidify their top-eight spot, while Port seeks to shake their pretender tag. Then the Crows will be looking to steady their topsy turvy season against a resurgent Blues looking to make it 4 wins on the trot. On Election Night a Blockbuster will see the ladder-leading Pies take on the Cats, who are keen to bounce back after a narrow loss. On Sunday the Sydney Derby promises fireworks as the Giants aim to cement their top-eight status, while the Swans fight to keep their season alive. The Hawks, celebrating their centenary, will be looking to easily account for the Tigers who are desperate to halt their slide. The Round concludes on Sunday Night with a top end of the table QClash with significant ladder implications; both Queensland teams are in scintillating form. Who are you tipping this week and what are the best results for the Demons?

    • 154 replies
    Demonland
  • PREGAME: West Coast

    The Demons hit the road in Round 8, heading to Perth to face the West Coast Eagles at Optus Stadium. With momentum building, the Dees will be aiming for a third straight victory to keep their season revival on course. Who comes in and who goes out?

      • Thanks
    • 563 replies
    Demonland
  • REPORT: Richmond

    The fans who turned up to the MCG for Melbourne’s Anzac Day Eve clash against Richmond would have been disappointed if they turned up to see a great spectacle. As much as this was a night for the 71,635 in attendance to commemorate heroes of the nation’s past wars, it was also a time for the Melbourne Football Club to consolidate upon its first win after a horrific start to the 2025 season. On this basis, despite the fact that it was an uninspiring and dour struggle for most of its 100 minutes, the night will be one for the fans to remember. They certainly got value out of the pre match activity honouring those who fought for their country. The MCG and the lights of the city as backdrop was made for nights such as these and, in my view, we received a more inspirational ceremony of Anzac culture than others both here and elsewhere around the country. 

      • Love
      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 0 replies
    Demonland