Jump to content
View in the app

A better way to browse. Learn more.

Demonland

A full-screen app on your home screen with push notifications, badges and more.

To install this app on iOS and iPadOS
  1. Tap the Share icon in Safari
  2. Scroll the menu and tap Add to Home Screen.
  3. Tap Add in the top-right corner.
To install this app on Android
  1. Tap the 3-dot menu (⋮) in the top-right corner of the browser.
  2. Tap Add to Home screen or Install app.
  3. Confirm by tapping Install.

Featured Replies

30 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

How do we trade for Brown? Futures?

GWS would lose that deal

I'd imagine our 2nd round pick (from Hawthorn for Frost last year IIRC) will go to landing Brown. 

Preuss and future 1st may be a goer for that 2020 1st rounder.

All the GWS movement may throw a spanner in the works, but we'll have to wait and see.

Edited by A F

 
56 minutes ago, A F said:

I'd imagine our 2nd round pick (from Hawthorn for Frost last year IIRC) will go to landing Brown. 

Preuss and future 1st may be a goer for that 2020 1st rounder.

All the GWS movement may throw a spanner in the works, but we'll have to wait and see.

Reckon you're spot on mate, 23 for Brown 

and Preuss and our 2021 first round pick, for the compensation pick for Williams #9 Might need other pieces around that but that'll be the idea 

Aiming to bring in Smith, Brown, McRae and Hind 

 

9 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

Reckon you're spot on mate, 23 for Brown 

and Preuss and our 2021 first round pick, for the compensation pick for Williams #9 Might need other pieces around that but that'll be the idea 

Aiming to bring in Smith, Brown, McRae and Hind 

 

Love it mate.

 
7 hours ago, Dr evil said:

Most of goodwins problems stem from the fact he doesn’t really have a plan. 

That’s why we make way too many selection changes and changes to our set up week to week. 

why we’ve had 3 captains in 4 years 

why the leadership group has changed every single year he’s been in charge 

why we’re continually out coached on game day. 
 

I agree with this somewhat, except that I think he did have a plan pre 666 and has struggled to establish a consistent, working plan with the cattle we've had since then.  Thus I don't know if he doesn't have a plan, or if he has one and is now making changes/modifications to the list to implement it.

 

Fwiw I had a close contact at EFC when he was there. They spoke very highly of him, suggesting that he was one of the few coaching staff who (that they ever saw) spent time reviewing and analysing games and opposition, working with technical and analytic staff to understand tactics etc.

In 2017 and 2018 we were very experimental both strategically and tactically. This matches with what I heard. Has he not been able to create a new plan? Is he still experimenting to find a new one? Or is he taling steps, but just not there yet?  

We'll know in 12 months.

8 hours ago, A F said:

I'd imagine our 2nd round pick (from Hawthorn for Frost last year IIRC) will go to landing Brown. 

Preuss and future 1st may be a goer for that 2020 1st rounder.

All the GWS movement may throw a spanner in the works, but we'll have to wait and see.

 

7 hours ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

Reckon you're spot on mate, 23 for Brown 

and Preuss and our 2021 first round pick, for the compensation pick for Williams #9 Might need other pieces around that but that'll be the idea 

Aiming to bring in Smith, Brown, McRae and Hind 

 

With Tom McDonald potentially touring GWS, i wonder even if we could package up Pruess and Tmac plus next year's first for GWS compo pick which most likely pick 9?


8 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

How do we trade for Brown? Futures?

GWS would lose that deal

Future 2nd for Brown perhaps or Preuss and future 1st or 2nd for pick 9.

Edited by Better days ahead

14 hours ago, A F said:

I don't wholly disagree with you here, OD, just that there's certainly evidence that Goodwin does listen to some extent, hence the changing of systems mid year a couple of times now, and other tweaks in season to certain areas of the back plan (the Diamond Defence, the no wingers, the two off the back of the square).

None of us can be completely sure, but I reckon we can point to more evidence that he's open to listening given how much we experiment. He can't possibly be behind all the ideas. It's a consultative process.

I think he does need strong leaders around him that challenge him though. Hopefully Pert, Yze and more to come, will do this.

Yes lets all wait for 2022 to find out right? Does he need all the support we have provided He is on his 3rd mentor soon to be his 4th

Seems to me he is not ready to senior coach or he never will be. Its difficult to work out the clubs coaching strategy. All I know is  I agree with Old Dee we are miles off competing for a grand final

There’s no way we’re getting pick 9 from GWS, first rounders aren’t used in trades for fringe players, no matter how many fringe players and later picks you throw in. 

 
37 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

There’s no way we’re getting pick 9 from GWS, first rounders aren’t used in trades for fringe players, no matter how many fringe players and later picks you throw in. 

what you're talking about though is a 2021 first, for a 2020 first, and 2 players they've identified and shown interest with as steak knives. it's a good deal for the Giants. 

if we have the same finish next year, they get pick 9 back, and Preuss and McDonald for nothing. if we improve slightly it's 2 players they want, for shuffling the pick back 2-3 spots. 

Thread should be on Trade and Draft board.


Do the Giants have academy players at the top end of the draft this year? Are they going to want picks or points?

47 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

what you're talking about though is a 2021 first, for a 2020 first, and 2 players they've identified and shown interest with as steak knives. it's a good deal for the Giants. 

if we have the same finish next year, they get pick 9 back, and Preuss and McDonald for nothing. if we improve slightly it's 2 players they want, for shuffling the pick back 2-3 spots. 

My post was referring to the posters who are suggesting Preuss and pick 23 for GWS’ pick 9 or Preuss and TMac for pick 9. Ain’t gonna happen. 

53 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

My post was referring to the posters who are suggesting Preuss and pick 23 for GWS’ pick 9 or Preuss and TMac for pick 9. Ain’t gonna happen. 

Oh right! sorry ET! didn't read it properly. yes you're absolutely correct. we're not getting near pick 9 unless we offer up our 2021 first round pick.

58 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

My post was referring to the posters who are suggesting Preuss and pick 23 for GWS’ pick 9 or Preuss and TMac for pick 9. Ain’t gonna happen. 

My post was Tmac, Pruess and next years first round pick for this years GWS first round pick compo from the Williams trade, which could potentially be 9.

 

Hypothetical what happens if in the middle of the grand final there is the predicted thunderstorm and lightning. Precedent from before is the players come off and seek shelter till the storm passes and it is safe to proceed. 


8 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

With Tom McDonald potentially touring GWS, i wonder even if we could package up Pruess and Tmac plus next year's first for GWS compo pick which most likely pick 9?

Whilst Preuss and 23 for 9, or Preuss and TMac for 9 might not work, adding in our 2021 first rounder tips it the other way. I know we may want to ship TMac off, but this is too much out for not enough back.

2 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

Whilst Preuss and 23 for 9, or Preuss and TMac for 9 might not work, adding in our 2021 first rounder tips it the other way. I know we may want to ship TMac off, but this is too much out for not enough back.

I'm happy for someone to explain it to me but why would we be selling off out first round pick in a 2021 draft that's not anywhere near as compromised as this year's draft. I'm genuinely asking.

12 minutes ago, Return to Glory said:

I'm happy for someone to explain it to me but why would we be selling off out first round pick in a 2021 draft that's not anywhere near as compromised as this year's draft. I'm genuinely asking.

If Taylor rates someone in the draft high enough, it'd be worth it IMO.

We can figure out ways of getting back into next year's first round at the end of next year.

Edited by A F

4 minutes ago, A F said:

If Taylor rates someone in the draft high enough, it'd be worth it IMO.

We can figure out ways of getting back into next year's first round at the end of next year.

Agreed, he tried to make the move to get Butters in 2017, which ultimately didn't come to fruition.

Tried to move up last year when Devan Robertson was still available but missed again. Although in hindsight while I rate Robbo very highly we wouldn't have got Rivers

On 10/22/2020 at 2:13 PM, Lord Nev said:

Admin - Told earlier in the year Mahoney is likely gone. Haven't heard anything lately though. Richardson talked about as a potential replacement for him.

Update is apparently Mahoney is more likely to stay but will change roles. Not sure how that works tbh or who will step into his role if so. Perhaps it might even be a restructure given the soft cap change? Would assume that means the review has wrapped up and changes are happening, not sure on that though. Anyone heard about progress on the review implementations?


On 10/24/2020 at 6:38 PM, Return to Glory said:

I'm happy for someone to explain it to me but why would we be selling off out first round pick in a 2021 draft that's not anywhere near as compromised as this year's draft. I'm genuinely asking.

Why would next year not be compromised. To be uncompromised we have to return to some sort of life where 90% of the " normal";things happen. I cannot see that happening in Victoria this side of a working vaccine being available. I watched two different experts today say a vaccine is unlikely before 9 - 12 months has expired. That suggests to me that there will again be few if any  games played in Victoria again let alone feeder and junior competitions played. The virus has exploded in the northern hemisphere and winter there has only started. To expect that we will sail through 2021 without another break out in NSW and or Vic. Seems very unlikely. We could easily be  playing in a bubble in WA instead of QLD in 2021.

2 minutes ago, old dee said:

Why would next year not be compromised. To be uncompromised we have to return to some sort of life where 90% of the " normal";things happen. I cannot see that happening in Victoria this side of a working vaccine being available. I watched two different experts today say a vaccine is unlikely before 9 - 12 months has expired. That suggests to me that there will again be few if any  games played in Victoria again let alone feeder and junior competitions played. The virus has exploded in the northern hemisphere and winter there has only started. To expect that we will sail through 2021 without another break out in NSW and or Vic. Seems very unlikely. We could easily be  playing in a bubble in WA instead of QLD in 2021.

Very perceptive Old Dee, re vaccine the trial for the one Australia is backing officially finishes stage 3 in October 2022. The trial may allow high risk people and health workers to be part of the trial. We mere mortals are looking more to 2023. You are correct that winter is dynamite and Europe, the U.K and U.S are all struggling under the weight of numbers and people get re infected. The Northern states have managed things well here this season and the hubs actually worked and allowed a season to play to its conclusion. I also believe we will get more of the same next year but don't think people want to hear that though.

2 minutes ago, Older demon said:

Very perceptive Old Dee, re vaccine the trial for the one Australia is backing officially finishes stage 3 in October 2022. The trial may allow high risk people and health workers to be part of the trial. We mere mortals are looking more to 2023. You are correct that winter is dynamite and Europe, the U.K and U.S are all struggling under the weight of numbers and people get re infected. The Northern states have managed things well here this season and the hubs actually worked and allowed a season to play to its conclusion. I also believe we will get more of the same next year but don't think people want to hear that though.

Perhaps they are listening to much to Trump didn’t he say there would be a vaccine before the election ? 

 
2 minutes ago, old dee said:

Perhaps they are listening to much to Trump didn’t he say there would be a vaccine before the election ? 

He changed that to before the end of the year. There's no way.

18 minutes ago, old dee said:

Why would next year not be compromised. 

I thought this year’s draft is considered to be compromised because of various academy, father-son and the like that mean that a number of this year’s draft prospects are already locked in? The suggestion being that 2021 will be less compromised in that regard, so not Covid or vaccine related. 


Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

Featured Content

  • AFLW PREVIEW: Richmond

    Round four kicks off early Saturday afternoon at Casey Fields, as the mighty Narrm host the winless Richmond Tigers in the second week of Indigenous Round celebrations. With ideal footy conditions forecast—20 degrees, overcast skies, and a gentle breeze — expect a fast-paced contest. Narrm enters with momentum and a dangerous forward line, while Richmond is still searching for its first win. With key injuries on both sides and pride on the line, this clash promises plenty.

    • 2 replies
  • AFLW REPORT: Collingwood

    Expectations of a comfortable win for Narrm at Victoria Park quickly evaporated as the match turned into a tense nail-biter. After a confident start by the Demons, the Pies piled on pressure and forced red and blue supporters to hold their collective breath until after the final siren. In a frenetic, physical contest, it was Captain Kate’s clutch last quarter goal and a missed shot from Collingwood’s Grace Campbell after the siren which sealed a thrilling 4-point win. Finally, Narrm supporters could breathe easy.

    • 2 replies
  • CASEY: Williamstown

    The Casey Demons issued a strong statement to the remaining teams in the VFL race with a thumping 76-point victory in their Elimination Final against Williamstown. This was the sixth consecutive win for the Demons, who stormed into the finals from a long way back with scalps including two of the teams still in flag contention. Senior Coach Taylor Whitford would have been delighted with the manner in which his team opened its finals campaign with high impact after securing the lead early in the game when Jai Culley delivered a precise pass to a lead from Noah Yze, who scored his first of seven straight goals for the day. Yze kicked his second on the quarter time siren, by which time the Demons were already in control. The youngster repeated the dose in the second term as the Seagulls were reduced to mere

    • 0 replies
  • AFLW PREVIEW: Collingwood

    Narrm time isn’t a standard concept—it’s the time within the traditional lands of Narrm, the Woiwurrung name for Melbourne. Indigenous Round runs for rounds 3 and 4 and is a powerful platform to recognise the contributions of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples in sport, community, and Australian culture. This week, suburban footy returns to the infamous Victoria Park as the mighty Narrm take on the Collingwood Magpies at 1:05pm Narrm time, Sunday 31 August. Come along if you can.

      • Like
    • 9 replies
  • AFLW REPORT: St. Kilda

    The Dees demolished the Saints in a comprehensive 74-pointshellacking.  We filled our boots with percentage — now a whopping 520.7% — and sit atop the AFLW ladder. Melbourne’s game plan is on fire, and the competition is officially on notice.

      • Haha
    • 4 replies
  • REPORT: Collingwood

    It was yet another disappointing outcome in a disappointing year, with Melbourne missing the finals for the second consecutive season. Indeed, it wasn’t even close, as the Demons' tally of seven wins was less than half the number required to rank among the top eight teams in the competition. When the dust of the game settled and supporters reflected on Melbourne's  six-point defeat at the hands of close game specialists Collingwood, Max Gawn's words about his team’s unfulfilled potential rang true … well, almost. 

    • 1 reply

Configure browser push notifications

Chrome (Android)
  1. Tap the lock icon next to the address bar.
  2. Tap Permissions → Notifications.
  3. Adjust your preference.
Chrome (Desktop)
  1. Click the padlock icon in the address bar.
  2. Select Site settings.
  3. Find Notifications and adjust your preference.