Turf War

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 10,806]

17 hours ago, daisycutter said:

very monty pythonesque

will be funny when it detaches and rolls up during the game

For all the expense, they will probably end up installing it somewhere obscure and inconsequential, like over the boundary line in front of where Gil and his goons sit.

Edited October 15, 2020 by Rodney (Balls) Grinter

[Kiss of Death 755]

I can picture it now. 
 

Semi trailer rocks up at half time, reverses into the stadium, forklift or two head over to the truck and wheel out a small platform with the 3Mx1M tuft of grass with TISM, who sing “I might be a C but I’m not an F’ing C” wearing Dan Andrews masks before being loaded back into the semi and trucked out of the stadium. 

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,710]

18 hours ago, daisycutter said:

 

very monty pythonesque

will be funny when it detaches and rolls up during the game

Reminds me of Kevin Bartlett's hair when he was playing

[Elegt 872]

14 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

You guys know it's just a 3m x 1m bit of turf that has been relocated right?

 

And you know hitler was just a German guy right ?

[Lord Nev 13,512]

2 hours ago, Demonland said:

That’s costing $100K. How many people at the AFL have lost jobs this year? It’s an insult to them and their families. 

100K that is employing people tho....

And it wasn't paid for by the AFL.

Edited October 15, 2020 by Lord Nev

[Lord Nev 13,512]

 

[Ethan Tremblay 30,837]

What’s the issue if Rebel Sport are paying for it? People are getting paid. 

Edited October 15, 2020 by Ethan Tremblay

[Demonland 71,653]

11 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

100K that is employing people tho....

And it wasn't paid for by the AFL.

I get that point but given the current climate $100k to ship a piece of dirt for show is IMHO obscene.

[Elegt 872]

4 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

What’s the issue if Rebel Sport are paying for it? People are getting paid. 

Rebel sport could be using that money a bit more wisely 

[Lord Nev 13,512]

Just now, Demonland said:

I get that point but given the current climate $100k to ship a piece of dirt for show is IMHO obscene.

Yeah, it sounds crazy when you first hear it, but the government(s) are currently trying to encourage spending to help employment, and Rebel spending 100K on that might end up being a good thing?

"A team of people across Victoria and Queensland, including grass curators, transport experts and horticulturalists, have come together to make the move possible."

Curators rip up turf from MCG goal square to lay at Gabba for AFL Grand Final

[Ham 741]

Just now, Lord Nev said:

Yeah, it sounds crazy when you first hear it, but the government(s) are currently trying to encourage spending to help employment, and Rebel spending 100K on that might end up being a good thing?

"A team of people across Victoria and Queensland, including grass curators, transport experts and horticulturalists, have come together to make the move possible."

Curators rip up turf from MCG goal square to lay at Gabba for AFL Grand Final

Quoting this so people read it twice.

[Red and Blue realist 2,051]

In reality this has been a pretty good marketing move by Rebel, a $100k drop on normal market wouldn't have reached anywhere near as far as what this stunt has. While not everyone will like it, it's gotten air-time on national TV, made all the major newspapers and got people on these sort of forums talking about it. Plus there's without a doubt the commentators will get all nuffy about it on grand final day so they'll get huge exposure at one of the most watched TV event so the year. 

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

40 minutes ago, Red and Blue realist said:

In reality this has been a pretty good marketing move by Rebel, a $100k drop on normal market wouldn't have reached anywhere near as far as what this stunt has. While not everyone will like it, it's gotten air-time on national TV, made all the major newspapers and got people on these sort of forums talking about it. Plus there's without a doubt the commentators will get all nuffy about it on grand final day so they'll get huge exposure at one of the most watched TV event so the year. 

So this slap in the face to all the AFL employees who were retrenched is actually real value for money!

[Red and Blue realist 2,051]

17 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

So this slap in the face to all the AFL employees who were retrenched is actually real value for money!

I don't think the AFL are profiting from this at all, Rebel are getting some publicity out of it though. 

[sue 9,099]

1 hour ago, Ham said:

Quoting this so people read it twice.

for even more jobs paid for by rebel let’s all dig some holes and fill them in again. Just as insane. 

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,710]

3 hours ago, sue said:

for even more jobs paid for by rebel let’s all dig some holes and fill them in again. Just as insane. 

Is it (genuine question)? I'd like an economist's view. After all, isn't this what JobKeeper is doing, albeit without shovels?

Edited October 16, 2020 by La Dee-vina Comedia

[dino rover 710]

waste of money and bad for the environment

There is a stench of Victorian entitlement here - Victoria is the one and only home of AFL except during pandemics and this is our token to that totem.

I don't really give a fig for interstate rivalries. It is surely a great thing for the game that it get this promotion and as for the NFL I would rotate the grand final through different states in recognition that it is a national competition.

[monoccular 17,417]

19 hours ago, Deestar9 said:

From someone who was there ...with coach (bus) issues ...we arrived about an hour before Sydney game !!

And I believe a 2 hour journey to and through BNE airport and a 2 hour flight. Add disembarkation and journey to the ground just in time for the bounce. Disgraceful just to save the AFL a small piece of Gil’s bonus.  

5 hours ago, Elegt said:

And you know hitler was just a German guy right ?

Actually he was I believe Austrian ?? 

[sue 9,099]

30 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Is it (genuine question)? I'd like an economist's view. After all, isn't this what JobKeeper is doing, albeit without shovels?

Yes it's not much different - if Rebel thought they could get more publicity by having BT dig a hole and fill it in again, they'd probably pay for him to do it.

But since you ask and at risk of getting  political in a footy forum (over something AFL related that is essentially political IMO) I just believe a lot of 'economic' activity is absurd - digging up a patch of the MCG as a PR stunt seems so wasteful when better things could be done with the same resources.  The argument that Rebel got lots of PR bang for its buck doesn't justify to me doing something absurd. 

Jobkeeper etc is providing a basic income when there is no work (though its implementaion seems prone to corruption).  With increasing automation requiring less and less labour over the last 150+ years, maybe conventional employment makes less and less sense. Maybe some form of jobkeeper will need to become permanent regardless of Covid.  Let's spend more time at the footy and less time doing useless tasks like transporting some grass to Qld. 

Mods - feel free to delete. I won't be responding to the inevitable comments from those who believe if you have the money you can do anything you like and it will be all for the best.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,710]

1 hour ago, sue said:

Yes it's not much different - if Rebel thought they could get more publicity by having BT dig a hole and fill it in again, they'd probably pay for him to do it.

But since you ask and at risk of getting  political in a footy forum (over something AFL related that is essentially political IMO) I just believe a lot of 'economic' activity is absurd - digging up a patch of the MCG as a PR stunt seems so wasteful when better things could be done with the same resources.  The argument that Rebel got lots of PR bang for its buck doesn't justify to me doing something absurd. 

Jobkeeper etc is providing a basic income when there is no work (though its implementaion seems prone to corruption).  With increasing automation requiring less and less labour over the last 150+ years, maybe conventional employment makes less and less sense. Maybe some form of jobkeeper will need to become permanent regardless of Covid.  Let's spend more time at the footy and less time doing useless tasks like transporting some grass to Qld. 

Mods - feel free to delete. I won't be responding to the inevitable comments from those who believe if you have the money you can do anything you like and it will be all for the best.

"Value" is not always measured sensibly. Why is a Picasso worth so much more than the work of (almost) any other artist? After all, the cost of the materials used is the same. Similarly, how do you put a value on a stunt such as a prize in a club raffle for a chance to toss the coin at a home game on the MCG? 

Anyway, if the MCG turf going to the Gabba costs the AFL nothing, I see it as an inoffensive stunt. If it costs the AFL money, I see it as a wasteful idea.  

[Diamond_Jim 12,554]

7 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Why is a Picasso worth so much more than the work of (almost) any other artist?

I would have picked most Demonlanders as impressionists rather than cubists.

Life as an MFC supporter is much better if viewed through the mists of impressionism. After all Fuchsias and water lilies are very close.

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

5 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

I would have picked most Demonlanders as impressionists rather than cubists.

Life as an MFC supporter is much better if viewed through the mists of impressionism. After all Fuchsias and water lilies are very close.

"The Scream" describes my life as an MFC supporter quite aptly

[Demonland 71,653]

You'll all be happy to know that the turf arrived safely. 

 

[Demonland 71,653]

 

[Adam The God 30,153]

On 10/16/2020 at 9:40 AM, Elegt said:

And you know hitler was just a German guy right ?

Austrian actually.