2021 AFL National Draft prospects: The next batch

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On 10/2/2021 at 6:02 PM, Whispering_Jack said:

Swan Districts won the WAFL Colts Grand Final by 8 points in a thriller. The game was available for viewing by way of a streaming link that wasn’t of great quality. Claremont’s Angus Sheldrick was close to best in ground with 27 touches and a couple of outstanding goals in the third term. We also saw a great contest between KPP’s Jacob Van Rooyen who booted 3 early goals (finished with 4) but was quelled by Swan Districts defender Rhett Bazzo. Both have played well representing WA in the Under 19s. I would be very happy if Melbourne could somehow manage to get a draft pick in the teens or early twenties where both are tipped to be selected.

I think we should do that also mate. With the lack of tall forwards in the top 30 prospects, I think Van Rooyen and Jack Williams might go closer to 15 to 20 range rather than in the 20 to 30 range like most mock drafts have them at. 

I would think our best bet is to try to offer more draft points than any other team to get the doggies pick 17, which will turn into 19. 

I think a KPF is a must with our 1st pick, due to the obvious, of the majority of elite key forwards are top 10 or 20 picks. This is the only position that we haven’t got elite young talent. This is considering Jackson as a Ruck to take over Gawn’s reins in a few years.

[Demon Disciple 12,274]

Don’t mind Van Rooyen on the little ive seen of him. Others would have a better idea than me, but if he was available at our pick, I’d be happy to bring him to the Dees.

[Whispering_Jack 30,674]

6 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

Don’t mind Van Rooyen on the little ive seen of him. Others would have a better idea than me, but if he was available at our pick, I’d be happy to bring him to the Dees.

The thing is that over the past few weeks JVR has risen up most rankings and there’s a strong chance that he’ll be well out of our reach even if we’re able to trade up to the mid teens.

[spirit of norm smith 16,589]

12 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

Don’t mind Van Rooyen on the little ive seen of him. Others would have a better idea than me, but if he was available at our pick, I’d be happy to bring him to the Dees.

Probably top 15-20 pick imv. Definitely a player. 

[Turner 1,516]

8 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

The thing is that over the past few weeks JVR has risen up most rankings and there’s a strong chance that he’ll be well out of our reach even if we’re able to trade up to the mid teens.

surely based on exposed form JVR > mac andrew in the eyes of most recruiters

[Whispering_Jack 30,674]

Chris Doerre’s October Power Rankings (note: this is not a phantom draft).

Highlights:

• Jason Horne-Francis overtakes Nick Daicos but it’s obviously going to be a neck and neck battle for the number one spot in the draft;

• Mac Andrew has dropped to number 10 but Doerre still ranks his projected draft range at between 2 and 10; 

• Andrew isn’t even the leading South Sudanese member of Doerre’s top ten. That honour goes to SA’s former Adelaide NGA, Leek Alleer from Central Districts who is number 9;

• Mitch Owens (St Kilda NGA) has come into the top 20 from out of blue into number 11, although he hasn’t played for a couple of months. 

AFL Draft - October's Power Rankings: A new No. 1 emerges as we close in on draft

[Whispering_Jack 30,674]

The AFL Draft Central Power rankings for the month came out today as well.

Draft Central Power Rankings: October 2021

They have Mac Andrew at number 7 which could see him going to the Tigers. Somehow, I can’t see him going there but it’s a funny draft.

The thing that stands out to me after watching vision of a good proportion of those in contention for the draft is the evenness of this year’s pool of players. One observer remarked that you could virtually throw a blanket over a group of around 40 players who could get drafted anywhere between 10 and 50 and take your pick. In that regard, it’s not such a disadvantage for Melbourne to have one pick in the second round and two in the third.

[Pennant St Dee 13,305]

15 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

The thing is that over the past few weeks JVR has risen up most rankings and there’s a strong chance that he’ll be well out of our reach even if we’re able to trade up to the mid teens.

He can hold down key position either end of the ground 

[Chelly 827]

12 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

He can hold down key position either end of the ground 

You’re from WA. How do you explain that some of that state’s best tall KPP’s seem to be out of favour with the draft experts?

[Pennant St Dee 13,305]

20 hours ago, Chelly said:

You’re from WA. How do you explain that some of that state’s best tall KPP’s seem to be out of favour with the draft experts?

Not sure really, putting it down to the talk for the last few years leading into this draft, that it was very much a midfielders draft, there’s a lot of risk with the KPT from WA, I don’t see a McDonald or a Grainger Barrass in the WA crop this year, but there’s still some potential high rewards for taking risks.

With Jye Amiss, he is very raw and only came up from the country this year, so doesn’t have a lot of exposed form up until this season. Did he kick bags because he’s bigger than his opponent and how will he go against stronger opponents at the next level, he’s high risk, but he does convert.

I really like Van Rooyen, he’s played a lot of school footy this year and started the season really well at Colts level, but once PSA started he dropped off the experts radar a bit, but don’t think that would have impacted recruiters thoughts on him. He’s not super tall but that adds IMO to his tools as he can play forward, back and be given short stints on the ball. I reckon whoever drafts him will develop him as a defender first

Bazzo good lock down key defender who just does his job, Dylan Grimes type no X factor but reliable and whilst not high up the boards someone’s getting a 200 game player.

Cripps and Sprigg are the 2 ruckman who are late developers, which is why they are not high on the boards,  Cripps had an injury riddled 2020 and Sprigg really shot up late 2020

[spirit of norm smith 16,589]

Arthur Jones is in play. Eagles have not assigned him under NGA rules. Great news.
Certainly impressed in WA v Allies u19s game. Good pace and skill for young wingman.  Definitely on the radar.  

[Pennant St Dee 13,305]

1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Arthur Jones is in play. Eagles have not assigned him under NGA rules. Great news.
Certainly impressed in WA v Allies u19s game. Good pace and skill for young wingman.  Definitely on the radar.  

I watched Arthur play PSA this season very exciting footballer with great acceleration. His parents are nice people and really supportive of him, and IMO they have produced a very rounded young man.

He’s a fantastic kid, who is a leader at Wesley College and a mentor to the indigenous boys at the school. They run a fantastic programme at the school for the indigenous boys.

Comes from Mt Barker (Jimmy and Phil Krakouer’s hometown) and will be a good get for some club as he’s got a lot to give a club not just infield

[spirit of norm smith 16,589]

On 10/4/2021 at 8:07 PM, Whispering_Jack said:

Chris Doerre’s October Power Rankings (note: this is not a phantom draft).

Highlights:

• Jason Horne-Francis overtakes Nick Daicos but it’s obviously going to be a neck and neck battle for the number one spot in the draft;

• Mac Andrew has dropped to number 10 but Doerre still ranks his projected draft range at between 2 and 10; 

• Andrew isn’t even the leading South Sudanese member of Doerre’s top ten. That honour goes to SA’s former Adelaide NGA, Leek Alleer from Central Districts who is number 9;

• Mitch Owens (St Kilda NGA) has come into the top 20 from out of blue into number 11, although he hasn’t played for a couple of months. 

AFL Draft - October's Power Rankings: A new No. 1 emerges as we close in on draft

Dees might lose Mac Andrew and then come up to pick up Mitch Owens from under the nose of the Saints NGA.  

[Chelly 827]

4 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Dees might lose Mac Andrew and then come up to pick up Mitch Owens from under the nose of the Saints NGA.  

That would be wicked. 😀

[Demon Disciple 12,274]

15 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Arthur Jones is in play. Eagles have not assigned him under NGA rules. Great news.
Certainly impressed in WA v Allies u19s game. Good pace and skill for young wingman.  Definitely on the radar.  

Would that make him the only ‘Arthur’ currently in the league?

[dee-tox 4,835]

Van Rooyen is the interesting one and not just because he has a Zimbabwean background! I think we need to go tall with our first pick and he seems to be versatile, great leap and covers the ground well.

There's plenty of scope to improve by the looks. In a draft that seems not to have an abundance of tall prospects Van Rooyen seems to be one of the best.

 

[deelusions from afar 1,861]

28 minutes ago, dee-tox said:

Van Rooyen is the interesting one and not just because he has a Zimbabwean background! I think we need to go tall with our first pick and he seems to be versatile, great leap and covers the ground well.

There's plenty of scope to improve by the looks. In a draft that seems not to have an abundance of tall prospects Van Rooyen seems to be one of the best.

 

I agree - surely he's one that would be on our radar.  I reckon  Jye Amiss could also be in contention.  He's come from the clouds this year as a late bloomer but dominated WAFL Colts comp kicking 50+ goals.  Given Jason Taylor spent some time in WA, could he be the one on our radar?

Was also wondering if Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera could be another in contention - would add to the outside polish / class that (prior to this year) seemed to be our biggest weakness.  We could become the Kysaiah / Nasiah show!

[Pennant St Dee 13,305]

39 minutes ago, dee-tox said:

Van Rooyen is the interesting one and not just because he has a Zimbabwean background! I think we need to go tall with our first pick and he seems to be versatile, great leap and covers the ground well.

There's plenty of scope to improve by the looks. In a draft that seems not to have an abundance of tall prospects Van Rooyen seems to be one of the best.

 

He’s very much on Freos radar along with Erasmus

[ChaserJ 5,157]

13 minutes ago, deelusions from afar said:

I agree - surely he's one that would be on our radar.  I reckon  Jye Amiss could also be in contention.  He's come from the clouds this year as a late bloomer but dominated WAFL Colts comp kicking 50+ goals.  Given Jason Taylor spent some time in WA, could he be the one on our radar?

Was also wondering if Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera could be another in contention - would add to the outside polish / class that (prior to this year) seemed to be our biggest weakness.  We could become the Kysaiah / Nasiah show!

I’d love Wanganeen-Milera, but he’s bolting. Can’t see him getting past Essendon at 11, could go inside 10. Would be a great fit at Saints with pick 9.

Edited October 7, 2021 by ChaserJ

[Nascent 9,283]

If we go for a mid I hope Josh Ward slides to us. Was super impressive in the games he played earlier in the season that I saw. Zac Taylor is one that has good raps on him for his kicking and I believe he has good pace.

Half back could see Wilmot or maybe Sinn?

Outside mids could have a look at Chesser or Wanganeen-Milera.

Or my preference would be to have a developing key position player.

Jye Amiss, Jacob van Rooyen and Jack Williams are all WA talls that performed well throughout the year. I'll have to do a bit more research into them but think we could do with a developing tall after Brown and McDonald closing in on 30 and a yet unproven Weideman.

Seems an open sort of draft after the first handful of picks which makes things interesting and hard to predict.

Edited October 7, 2021 by Nascent

[Demonstone 22,820]

10 hours ago, Nascent said:

Half back could see Wilmot or maybe Sinn?

Could we afford his wages?

[Leopold Bloom 373]

Believe it or not, there’s a game of footy in Adelaide this Sunday. Not sure about its exact status but it’s between SA and WA U19s (they even have an U17s). How lucky are they?

The team lists for the game which starts at 1:30 PM ACDT are -

South Australia 

B: Max Litster Zac Becker Blayne O'Loughlin
HB: Jase Burgoyne Oscar Adams Shay Linke
C: Brayden Calvett Adam D'Aloia Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
HF: Morgan Ferres Lucas Cooke Cade Kennedy
F: Jacob Owens Harry Lemmey TBC
Foll: Oscar Steene Mani Liddy Matty Roberts
I/C: Lachlan Grubb Harvey Harrison Alastair Lord Max Michalanney Jared Parish
Emerg: Dane McGary Zac Phillips Hugh Stagg Luca Whitelum

Western Australia

B: Judd McVee Jarrad McIlvinney Finn Gorringe
HB: Bryce Watson Jack Avery Rhett Bazzo
C: Arthur Jones Kade Dittmar Corey Warner
HF: Brady Hough Jack Williams Lochlan Paton
F: Jesse Motlop Eric Benning Ethan Regan
Foll: Josh Cripps Angus Sheldrick Taj Woewodin
I/C: Joshua Browne Max Chipper Zac Fleiner Kaden Harbour Luke Polson

I’m guessing that the game will be streamed on the AFL site

[Whispering_Jack 30,674]

2 hours ago, Leopold Bloom said:

Believe it or not, there’s a game of footy in Adelaide this Sunday. Not sure about its exact status but it’s between SA and WA U19s (they even have an U17s). How lucky are they?

The team lists for the game which starts at 1:30 PM ACDT are -

South Australia 

B: Max Litster Zac Becker Blayne O'Loughlin
HB: Jase Burgoyne Oscar Adams Shay Linke
C: Brayden Calvett Adam D'Aloia Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
HF: Morgan Ferres Lucas Cooke Cade Kennedy
F: Jacob Owens Harry Lemmey TBC
Foll: Oscar Steene Mani Liddy Matty Roberts
I/C: Lachlan Grubb Harvey Harrison Alastair Lord Max Michalanney Jared Parish
Emerg: Dane McGary Zac Phillips Hugh Stagg Luca Whitelum

Western Australia

B: Judd McVee Jarrad McIlvinney Finn Gorringe
HB: Bryce Watson Jack Avery Rhett Bazzo
C: Arthur Jones Kade Dittmar Corey Warner
HF: Brady Hough Jack Williams Lochlan Paton
F: Jesse Motlop Eric Benning Ethan Regan
Foll: Josh Cripps Angus Sheldrick Taj Woewodin
I/C: Joshua Browne Max Chipper Zac Fleiner Kaden Harbour Luke Polson

I’m guessing that the game will be streamed on the AFL site

Looks as if some of the “big” fish will be missing from the game. From SA, Jason Horne-Francis and Arlo Draper are two highly regarded prospects with the latter injured when the teams met on grand final day. From WA, Jye Amiss (also injured in the last game), Neil Erasmus, Jacob Van Rooyen and Matthew Johnson aren’t there. Taj Woewodin picked on the ball is promising.

[Deeman 1,512]

13 minutes ago, Leopold Bloom said:

Believe it or not, there’s a game of footy in Adelaide this Sunday. Not sure about its exact status but it’s between SA and WA U19s (they even have an U17s). How lucky are they?

The team lists for the game which starts at 1:30 PM ACDT are -

South Australia 

B: Max Litster Zac Becker Blayne O'Loughlin
HB: Jase Burgoyne Oscar Adams Shay Linke
C: Brayden Calvett Adam D'Aloia Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
HF: Morgan Ferres Lucas Cooke Cade Kennedy
F: Jacob Owens Harry Lemmey TBC
Foll: Oscar Steene Mani Liddy Matty Roberts
I/C: Lachlan Grubb Harvey Harrison Alastair Lord Max Michalanney Jared Parish
Emerg: Dane McGary Zac Phillips Hugh Stagg Luca Whitelum

Western Australia

B: Judd McVee Jarrad McIlvinney Finn Gorringe
HB: Bryce Watson Jack Avery Rhett Bazzo
C: Arthur Jones Kade Dittmar Corey Warner
HF: Brady Hough Jack Williams Lochlan Paton
F: Jesse Motlop Eric Benning Ethan Regan
Foll: Josh Cripps Angus Sheldrick Taj Woewodin
I/C: Joshua Browne Max Chipper Zac Fleiner Kaden Harbour Luke Polson

I’m guessing that the game will be streamed on the AFL site

That bloke named in the forward pocket for SA is absolutely rocketing up the draft charts. Challenging Daicos for #1 IMV 

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16 minutes ago, Leopold Bloom said:

I’m guessing that the game will be streamed on the AFL site

I trust they will have improved their act since last week’s SA v Allies game.