7 hours ago, Demon3 said:

Hard to not see all this and just say, heard it all before and the talk has been cheap coming out of this club for a long time. i know they have to say it, but it really washes completely over me.

It only took three posts for someone to pull out the old "talk is cheap".

What is it that you expect from him in the week after our season finished?

1 hour ago, titan_uranus said:

It only took three posts for someone to pull out the old "talk is cheap".

What is it that you expect from him in the week after our season finished?

Apologies for giving my opinion... seriously.

As i also posted, i dont care what he says, right now it washes over me.. i love Max and of course he has to say these things but for ME.. im just not ready to hear another spiel on how we will come back a different team and next year we will be a different side.. when i see it, i will believe it.

Players don’t come back to start preseason until January? Is that right?

 

13 hours ago, ding said:

So are we back from Hell yet?

when did we leave ? I missed that update

9 hours ago, Demon3 said:

Apologies for giving my opinion... seriously.

As i also posted, i dont care what he says, right now it washes over me.. i love Max and of course he has to say these things but for ME.. im just not ready to hear another spiel on how we will come back a different team and next year we will be a different side.. when i see it, i will believe it.

If so why would you read/post Demonland, media or anything?  Just watch the matches. 

I expect everyone on here agrees with you - we will believe it when we see it.  But that doesn't mean we ignore everything else and discuss nothing, including the nuances of what the captain and coach say publicly.  

Personally I thought Max's comments were relatively refreshing compared to what we often hear.   Do I believe it guarantees a better 2021?  Of course not.

Ultimately actions speak louder than words & they all need to look at the consistent issues of dropping games against lower placed sides as it’s cost a finals spot in both 2020 & 2017 & a top 4 spot in 2018. Whole footy dept needs to be reviewed inc coaches. 

11 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

It only took three posts for someone to pull out the old "talk is cheap".

What is it that you expect from him in the week after our season finished?

Not more BS.I really cannot stand listening anymore until they actually show that they have learned and are motivated.I will have my opinion  and  wait until they back up the talk sometime in the next 50 years. By the way I must get my nuance meter checked

i m obviously missing something.

2 minutes ago, Kent said:

Not more BS.I really cannot stand listening anymore until they actually show that they have learned and are motivated.I will have my opinion  and  wait until they back up the talk sometime in the next 50 years. By the way I must get my nuance meter checked

i m obviously missing something.

Cheer up Kent it is only a game and the season is over there are way more important things in life. I feel we lost this season from those off the field. Yes we could do with a few better players but let’s hope we get a couple this recruiting season and some big changes to the FD. 

Oh would you look at that.

A fail but not a waste.

All the members here who were spouting their crap about a wasted year.

Jog the [censored] on.

10 hours ago, Demon3 said:

Apologies for giving my opinion... seriously.

As i also posted, i dont care what he says, right now it washes over me.. i love Max and of course he has to say these things but for ME.. im just not ready to hear another spiel on how we will come back a different team and next year we will be a different side.. when i see it, i will believe it.

Sure. Same with me. 

But I don't think anyone reads Gawn's quotes and thinks "well that does it, we're clearly going to make finals in 2021".

What he said was refreshing and candid. Rather than whinge about "talk is cheap", let's just accept the honesty of his quotes.

9 minutes ago, Kent said:

Not more BS.I really cannot stand listening anymore until they actually show that they have learned and are motivated.I will have my opinion  and  wait until they back up the talk sometime in the next 50 years. By the way I must get my nuance meter checked

i m obviously missing something.

You think what Gawn said was BS?

8 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Sure. Same with me. 

But I don't think anyone reads Gawn's quotes and thinks "well that does it, we're clearly going to make finals in 2021".

What he said was refreshing and candid. Rather than whinge about "talk is cheap", let's just accept the honesty of his quotes.

You think what Gawn said was BS?

No i agree and i never said that..  i feel like you are reading too much into what i said.. the footy club talks and talks and talks.. promises finals and better years and better times.. they are simply not happening.. so im just sick of hearing it, regardless of what is said.. i am just sick to death of hearing how as a club we are going to change.. and i know they have to say it, they have to portray confidence and sell hope.. but for me personally, and imagine lots of people, they are hollow words.

 

Also im not whingeing about it im being honest about how i feel..  anyway.. go dees.. lets hope the words come with actions next year.

15 minutes ago, Ham said:

Oh would you look at that.

A fail but not a waste.

All the members here who were spouting their crap about a wasted year.

Jog the [censored] on.

Lol.. you are so predictable Hammy.. and so bitter..  If Max says it it must be true..  There are countless examples of wasted opportunities this year. The Fail not waste line is classic PR SPIN and it has sucked you in. A captain cant come out and say we wasted a year.. it would be too truthful.. the club outlined a 4 year plan that said finals every year.. they have failed and they have wasted a year of work and effort. You do know that you can be wasteful and still learn from it..

 Jog on.. what are you 15 years old?. Cheer up Hammy.

48 minutes ago, sue said:

If so why would you read/post Demonland, media or anything?  Just watch the matches. 

I expect everyone on here agrees with you - we will believe it when we see it.  But that doesn't mean we ignore everything else and discuss nothing, including the nuances of what the captain and coach say publicly.  

Personally I thought Max's comments were relatively refreshing compared to what we often hear.   Do I believe it guarantees a better 2021?  Of course not.

Good for you Sue... its your opinion and your right to think whatever you feel is right.. and i wouldnt go looking for an argument with you... maybe you should do the same.. stick to your opinion and stop trying to put words in other peoples mouth.

33 minutes ago, Demon3 said:

Lol.. you are so predictable Hammy.. and so bitter..  If Max says it it must be true..  There are countless examples of wasted opportunities this year. The Fail not waste line is classic PR SPIN and it has sucked you in. A captain cant come out and say we wasted a year.. it would be too truthful.. the club outlined a 4 year plan that said finals every year.. they have failed and they have wasted a year of work and effort. You do know that you can be wasteful and still learn from it..

 Jog on.. what are you 15 years old?. Cheer up Hammy.

Your idiotic negativity is the most predictable spouted crap on here.
Do us all a favour and shut the hell up.

1 minute ago, Ham said:

Your idiotic negativity is the most predictable spouted crap on here.
Do us all a favour and shut the hell up.

Cool story champ, your refusal to respect someone else's position says more about you than me and now you have thrown the toys out of the cot..  move on, seriously. 

So we are going to become a ruthless and completely new club hey. 
 

I wonder how long that will take considering goody can’t fix our midfield to f50 connection for the last 2 seasons. 
 

All talk again which is what we are used to from our club. I hold no hope any of this will happen while goody and co are in charge. 

1 hour ago, titan_uranus said:

Sure. Same with me. 

But I don't think anyone reads Gawn's quotes and thinks "well that does it, we're clearly going to make finals in 2021".

What he said was refreshing and candid. Rather than whinge about "talk is cheap", let's just accept the honesty of his quotes.

You think what Gawn said was BS?

Well if not he is being careful about what the club wants him to say

Of course we wasted opportunities this year 

Nothing wrong in saying it

Well as old Dee says there is always next year and the next and the next

I ask again if we stay with Goodwin and the game plan WHAT IS GOING TO CHANGE to make sure we don't keep repeating and wasting another year

Edited September 24, 20205 yr by Kent

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3 hours ago, Demon3 said:

Good for you Sue... its your opinion and your right to think whatever you feel is right.. and i wouldnt go looking for an argument with you... maybe you should do the same.. stick to your opinion and stop trying to put words in other peoples mouth.

 You have a funny way to avoid looking for an argument.

1 hour ago, sue said:

 You have a funny way to avoid looking for an argument.

Seriously im not, but you keep replying to my posts... anyway go Dees.

As long as we are learning and improving faster than other teams...

Didn't watch the B&F for this reason, obviously they have to say those things but I didn't need to hear it right now. I am happy reading what Max said and hopefully there are some changes.