POSTGAME: Rd 17 vs GWS

[pinkshark 950]

1 minute ago, Luther said:

Bit rough, it was just a tribute to his injured mate Gus.

Re Jetta, he just continues to get the ball and go head first into traffic which has been a problem all year when he's played. Unfortunately, although he did a few nice things the end is nigh for Nev.

I don't have time for b/c-grade players who consistently do f-all to be paying tributes. 

He did slot it though, and he was as effective last night as he has ever been but all in all he can grab his coat on the way out as far as I am concerned. 

I'm done with ANB, Goodwin and Omac.  Neither of them are up to it and they must be moved on.

Nev is alright.  Don't worry about Nev when the heat is on.

 

 

 

[picket fence 17,498]

11 hours ago, wizardinoz said:

Smith has been tried forward before & hasn't done nothing.

The last time he played forward was a pre season match at Casey last year and on one leg kicked 4 goals I reckon he CLEARLY is a forward!

[pinkshark 950]

11 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Personally I like Petty forward. He's a one touch grab. Something our forwards don't do well especially Weideman.

Ball just won't stick in his hands.  Thats if he hasn't ran under it already or been pushed off it.  Compared to other teams forwards who can stick a grab in a pack, we just don't have one.  Not a one.

[pinkshark 950]

Just went to the MFC website against my better judgement and lost my shid immediately on seeing the headline.  A small step forward - Goodwin

Simon Goodwin says his side is still a work in progress

No.  

The truth is that Goodwin is the work in progress and the club suffers as a result.

I'm done now. No more negativity. 

But f^&k him.

Edited September 13, 2020 by pinkshark

[picket fence 17,498]

1 minute ago, pinkshark said:

Just went to the MFC website against my better judgement and lost my shid immediately on seeing the headline.  A small step forward - Goodwin

Simon Goodwin says his side is still a work in progress

No.  

The truth is that Goodwin is the work in progress and the club suffers as a result.

YEP Nailed it!

[Dr. Gonzo 24,291]

2 hours ago, Kent said:

I was told this by the coach involved why would he say it if it wasnt the case

A good tradesman never blames his tools.

[low flying Robbo 979]

1 hour ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

I commented on this during the game. It was yet another example of appalling umpiring.

The boofhead commentators loved it

[old55 23,687]

It was great that we found a way to win against an equally desperate side and keep the season alive into the final round.  It will be interesting to see if can do the same against Essendon next week - another team that played finals last year and has had a similar horror fixture to us without a break.

It's desperately disappointing that we couldn't find that against the Swans or Freo. Now we've seen GWS lose to Adelaide and MFC in consecutive weeks off the back of some arduous travel.  It's strange to think they belted Freo in WA just a few matches ago and now Freo is playing some very good football - they are not without a chance against the Dogs next week in Cairns.

[Skuit 10,031]

12 minutes ago, pinkshark said:

Just went to the MFC website against my better judgement and lost my shid immediately on seeing the headline.  A small step forward - Goodwin

Simon Goodwin says his side is still a work in progress

No.  

The truth is that Goodwin is the work in progress and the club suffers as a result.

I'm done now. No more negativity. 

But f^&k him.

Did you actually read the article or even better listen to the presser? Goodwin was sending a clear message to the players to not get ahead of themselves - something we all get disappointed with on here time after time. 

“I spoke last week about growing up as a footy club and it was to execute our roles and play like we did in pressure situations.

“It was a step forward as a footy club – there’s no question about that.

“I thought some of the maturity of some of our young guys especially was outstanding, but we’ve got to create a new pathway forward and play this way week in, week out.

“All we’ve done is given ourselves an opportunity to play the same way again next week.”

What exactly do you take exception to from those quotes?

Watch the presser. It was a gutsy and emotional win and we celebrated accordingly. But then Goody was smart enough to immediately put the brakes on and adopt a terse, unfinished business attitude. 

I'm certain that will be the messaging in-house this week as well. Goodwin also doesn't write the headlines. 

[layzie 33,991]

Beautiful day. Life is ok for the moment!

[Cards13 9,117]

3 hours ago, sue said:

Does the AFL have a ban on coaches using megaphones?  Either that or a lot of coaches are getting laryngitis for little effect.  Wouldn't make much sense when there is a crowd but this year, why not?

Seems to work for football managers plus a multitude of other sports coaches. I can’t think of many team sports where the Head coach is so far away from the players during play. Certainly not thinking it’s the panacea for the current ills but as I said it was nice to see Goodwin so animated and involved, which has been a big bear of the multitudes on here.

[Cheap Seats 3,310]

50 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

A good tradesman never blames his tools.

More analytical gold Gonzo.

How did you rate Goodwins emotions last night? Were they satisfactory for you, or do you think if he punched a wall we would have had it sown up by half time?

[Cards13 9,117]

2 hours ago, sue said:

I didn't know that "the Opposing Team is accompanying or following within two metres of their opponent."  As little as that!   Must be broken at almost every mark or free.    And the rule doesn't seem to mention that is OK as long as you run at some unspecified angle away from the area with your hands in the air.

Once again a poorly worded and poorly enforced rule trying to achieve a reasonable objective.  How about leaving it to the umps to decide if the player running through is any real threat to the player or his options in taking the kick?   Most of the time the 50m is paid they are no threat at all.  And the penalty is enormous.

Similarly for paying 50m for tackling when a player clearly plays on but the ump hasn't got around to shouting play on in time.  By all means shout as it makes things clear to the player with the ball.  Occasionally they do this, but it is rare.  Use discretion rather than a wooly rule.

The point I always think of during the game is “is the player running through the “protected area” impeding the player with the ball from playing on quickly/being able to move the ball on quickly?” (Poorly worded form me as well) If yes then a 50 needs to be given, the idea of the rule should be to allow the game to flow better/faster and umpires have relaxed the interpretation.

[Deemania since 56 6,716]

5 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

The center bounce mids set up seemed to be Oliver, Petracca, Melksham and AvB for most of the game.  Viney had one clearance suggesting he had little time in the midfield which seems rather odd with Brayshaw out. 

If my observation is correct were we experimenting, if Viney goes?  As it turned out we went very well.

Does anyone have access to the 'Centre Bounce Attendance' stat?

I quite like Viney out of the centre as he can be a clog to ball movement. When there is space for him, he'll run and carry before disposal, gaining metres and possible targets ahead. His penetration can be improved this way, I reckon.

[Deemania since 56 6,716]

39 minutes ago, Skuit said:

Did you actually read the article or even better listen to the presser? Goodwin was sending a clear message to the players to not get ahead of themselves - something we all get disappointed with on here time after time. 

“I spoke last week about growing up as a footy club and it was to execute our roles and play like we did in pressure situations.

“It was a step forward as a footy club – there’s no question about that.

“I thought some of the maturity of some of our young guys especially was outstanding, but we’ve got to create a new pathway forward and play this way week in, week out.

“All we’ve done is given ourselves an opportunity to play the same way again next week.”

What exactly do you take exception to from those quotes?

Watch the presser. It was a gutsy and emotional win and we celebrated accordingly. But then Goody was smart enough to immediately put the brakes on and adopt a terse, unfinished business attitude. 

I'm certain that will be the messaging in-house this week as well. Goodwin also doesn't write the headlines. 

Let's hope that Jackson is right for the team - he can show a little of HIS new-found maturity, too. He is going to be a killer.

[Deemania since 56 6,716]

1 hour ago, picket fence said:

Viney was typically Viney, tried to break tackle after tackle after tackle as iterated a limited footballer. He should have been a Rugby player. Spargo was ok 1 Good goal the other gifted 13 possessions 10 uncontested about as good as he will get. May AA.I thought Brown was creative, Smith OK, Hunt Ditto, Lever whatever we paid for him was overs, Trac very good as was Langdon! Rivers and Kossy Excellent, Kossy could have had 5 goals to his name. Baker also good. One other thing that MONGREL  Mumford should get a couple of weeks for that hit on Clarry!

All good, PF! 

[Deemania since 56 6,716]

1 hour ago, picket fence said:

The last time he played forward was a pre season match at Casey last year and on one leg kicked 4 goals I reckon he CLEARLY is a forward!

The modern basketball backgrounds add something to a natural forward, particularly for those at a high level of BB competition. We have a few that really can sense the goals, instantly confirmed with a quick turn of the head for the eyes and brain. Trac, Jackson, Smith, et al, for example. Hope Jackson can play against Essendrug, even at the expense of the Weed. 

[BDA 22,875]

4 hours ago, leave it to deever said:

I do hope Jetta returns to his old form.

He has been an incredible player and maybe still will be.

he's been a super player. Tough little bugger. Great hands. He's not been the same since that knee injury last year. Pains me to say but i don't think he'll get back to his best.

[buck_nekkid 6,046]

The Nibbler celebration was an obvious homage to Angus.  A nice touch I thought.

[old dee 23,871]

1 hour ago, layzie said:

Beautiful day. Life is ok for the moment!

Amazing day there is a reason beyond the weather but I cannot remember what it is.

[Diamond_Jim 12,627]

4 hours ago, KLV said:

Loved how Oskar Baker took control of his destiny. Hard to delist after that performance 

 LH's wonderful contracts table in the sticky is a wonderful resource.

Shows Baker contracted until 2021

Hunt is now the conundrum perhaps

Edited September 13, 2020 by Diamond_Jim

[In Harmes Way 7,823]

After watching the replay I’m still amazed Salem didn’t get a free kick in the 3rd qtr for tunneling. I thought the subsequent somersault and landing on his head was visible enough for even these crappy umpires to see. Exactly why the rule was brought in.

[leave it to deever 17,517]

Watching the replay you notice things players do behind the scences.

I know I have praised Langdon before but he is such a hard worker.

Great addition to the club.

So is Rivers. This one is better than the other one we had.

Where is Rivers best played?

 

 

[leave it to deever 17,517]

9 minutes ago, In Harmes Way said:

After watching the replay I’m still amazed Salem didn’t get a free kick in the 3rd qtr for tunneling. I thought the subsequent somersault and landing on his head was visible enough for even these crappy umpires to see. Exactly why the rule was brought in.

There were a couple of high tackkes on us in our frwd line that were blatantly ignored only for the giants to get a few for lesser high tackles on them.

Dont get me started on the kicking in danger.

[Diamond_Jim 12,627]

4 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

Watching the replay you notice things players do behind the scences.

I know I have praised Langdon before but he is such a hard worker.

Great addition to the club.

So is Rivers. This one is better than the other one we had.

Where is Rivers best played?

 

 

Not yet

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