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Jesse Hogan on the way out at Freo?

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  On 21/08/2020 at 12:00, P-man said:

Your opening contribution amounted to saying that positive responses are all due to romanticism around it being Jesse Hogan. The implication being that anyone in favour of the idea is not looking at it logically. It doesn’t get much more dismissive than that.

I’d be surprised if they traded him back but that doesn’t mean it couldn’t happen.

Yes, I gave my opinion. Can you quote where I said 'you're not thinking straight'?

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    Not sold on him the first time. 

    Character issues?  Once bitten.  We move on.

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      On 21/08/2020 at 12:07, Demons11 said:

    Yes!!!! He still has so much footy ahead of him. 

    No for me as I think he has not much footy left in him. Appears from afar he does not have the desire.

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    Plus I'm happy with the Weid and a fit Jacko who will turn heads big time next season. Add in Kozzie and our other small/medium forwards where in the hell would you play him even if in a good sound position health wise.

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      On 21/08/2020 at 12:11, Lord Nev said:

    Yes, I gave my opinion. Can you quote where I said 'you're not thinking straight'?

    I’ve explained how that is what you were doing. Or at least, that seemed to very much be the message.

    Moving on.

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    For a cheap price I'd have him back..   It seems he had far better support and network while at Melbourne and he played better (less injury). Lots of players struggle when they go to Freo and I think there is something wrong with their internal culture and it seems to not help players.     

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      On 21/08/2020 at 12:11, Lord Nev said:

    Yes, I gave my opinion. Can you quote where I said 'you're not thinking straight'?

     

      On 21/08/2020 at 12:25, P-man said:

    I’ve explained how that is what you were doing. Or at least, that seemed to very much be the message.

    Moving on.

     

    No fighting please we have a big game tomorrow.

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    No thanks.

    He’s been a circus for a couple of years now.

    Aside from Spargo and Pickett’s COVID’s indiscretions, it sounds like we’ve got a squad that has their head switched on, free from off field distraction and want this club to be successful.

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    Jesse clearly has some pretty serious off field stuff going on that the club is aware of, so depending on what that is i'd be open to it. 

    if we could get him for a pick around 40 ish. there is noone in this draft at that area with half as much talent as Jesse. 

    if we think we can get him right and he's happy to come back i think we'd be silly not to back ourselves to get him back firing again. 

    in the first half of 2018 he was probably all australian before injuries cut him down. it wasn't so long ago he was playing fantastic footy. 

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      On 21/08/2020 at 12:33, Darkhorse72 said:

    For a cheap price I'd have him back..   It seems he had far better support and network while at Melbourne and he played better (less injury). Lots of players struggle when they go to Freo and I think there is something wrong with their internal culture and it seems to not help players.     

    Or possibly their extraordinary off field activities, distractions and other temptations D72?

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      On 21/08/2020 at 12:56, Pickett2Jackson said:

     

    Im just here to see @WERRIDEE  do a best 22 with Hogan in it

    Hogan couldn't get in our best 22.

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      On 21/08/2020 at 13:13, Patches O’houlihan said:

    Jesse clearly has some pretty serious off field stuff going on that the club is aware of, so depending on what that is i'd be open to it. 

    if we could get him for a pick around 40 ish. there is noone in this draft at that area with half as much talent as Jesse. 

    if we think we can get him right and he's happy to come back i think we'd be silly not to back ourselves to get him back firing again. 

    in the first half of 2018 he was probably all australian before injuries cut him down. it wasn't so long ago he was playing fantastic footy. 

    Agreed.

    If the club thinks it's a good idea given what they know, I'd back them to make the right call.

    A switched on, powerful Jesse would add something to our team. His lack of tackling pressure always annoyed me, but get that right and he's a real talent.

    The last two years are irrelevant IMO if he can get his head right. He'll play good footy again once/if his head is back in the game.

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      On 21/08/2020 at 13:47, whatwhatsaywhat said:

    of the 22 tomorrow i'd have him replacing t mac in a nanosecond

     

    Interesting this one.

    With tomorrow's side, Tom can at least ruck. I'd prefer to keep Weideman forward rather than throwing him into the ruck. 

    It's a problem we don't have to worry about at the moment. I'd probably play Tomlinson in the ruck and replace Tom with Jesse, but only with a Jesse willing to do the hard yards RE forward pressure and defensive acts.

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      On 21/08/2020 at 13:51, A F said:

    Interesting this one.

    With tomorrow's side, Tom can at least ruck. I'd prefer to keep Weideman forward rather than throwing him into the ruck. 

    It's a problem we don't have to worry about at the moment. I'd probably play Tomlinson in the ruck and replace Tom with Jesse, but only with a Jesse willing to do the hard yards RE forward pressure and defensive acts.

    true

    he's just a natural forward for mine; n an ideal world you'd find a way to accommodate tom for that relief ruck role but i'm unsure who'd go out

    fortunately jesse's best football for us he was an aerobic beast so he may well have replaced the likes of jones in that forward pushing up role

    anyway, doesn't matter at the moment

    i'm all in the 'if we think his head is right and we can fix his body, get him back' camp

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      On 21/08/2020 at 13:47, whatwhatsaywhat said:

    of the 22 tomorrow i'd have him replacing t mac in a nanosecond

     

    He wouldn't get in front of  Jackson

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    How much of a pay cut would Jesse take because I would much prefer Williams. I can't see how we can fit both in. We don't need him really.

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      On 21/08/2020 at 13:26, Rusty Nails said:

    Or possibly their extraordinary off field activities, distractions and other temptations D72?

    Yes that could also be a reason. But a club with good support could manage that.  Plus he'd be away from his buddies!

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