2 minutes ago, old dee said:

I thought all FD people had to be advised by the end of August if they were not required the following year. This was to ensure they had the best chance of getting a job the for the following year. Is this still correct ?

Correct, re August on advice on employment which would be kept quiet and out of the media.  But iirc the contracts expire end of October so one would think the club would issue a statement thanking those that are going. 

Of course it could all be held up while Pert finishes the review.  But I would hope we hear soon.

4 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Correct, re August on advice on employment which would be kept quiet and out of the media.  But iirc the contracts expire end of October so one would think the club would issue a statement thanking those that are going. 

Of course it could all be held up while Pert finishes the review.  But I would hope we hear soon.

Serious question. So if they weren't advised by the end of August and we now finish them up, are they to be paid extra? Or does the MFC cop a plenty from the AFL. What I cannot imagine is if assistant coaches were told it is all over guys the the info would not now be out. 

Edited October 29, 20204 yr by old dee

9 minutes ago, old dee said:

Serious question. So if they weren't advised by the end of August and we now finish them up, are they to be paid extra? Or does the MFC cop a plenty from the AFL. I cannot imagine is assistant coaches were told it is all over guys the the info would not now be out. 

I don't know what happens if they weren't told by end of August re extra payment.

Re your last sentence.  It scares the living daylights out of me if we are holding onto all our assistant coaches.  Some have to go.  I'd be very surprised if they don't know who they are.

As far as I can tell, only GCS, Freo and Hawks have announced significant changes to coaching panel.  The rest are yet to come so its all very quiet.

Edited October 29, 20204 yr by Lucifer's Hero

4 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Even if they were advised by end of AugustI would think they still have to be paid until the end of the contract.  Some clubs will be playing finals while other clubs still have stuff to do.

Re your last sentence.  It scares the living daylights out of me if we are holding onto all our assistant coaches.  Some have to go.  I'd be very surprised if they don't know who they are.

As far as I can tell, only GCS, Freo and Hawks have announced significant changes to coaching panel.  The rest are yet to come so its all very quiet.

I understand they would be paid till end of October. What happens if the deadline passed and they are not told then susequently after the end of August they are then told not required what happens?

1 minute ago, old dee said:

I understand they would be paid till end of October. What happens if the deadline passed and they are not told then susequently after the end of August they are then told not required what happens?

I don't know.

Just now, Lucifer's Hero said:

I don't know.

Sadly neither do I. 

4 hours ago, Pollyanna said:

Josh Mahoney to Essendon?

Has been at the Dees too long

Good move for both parties

 

Time to get Mark "Choco" Williams into a role at the Melbourne Football Club.

As I mentioned on another thread, with Sam Radford now stepping down as coach of the Casey Demons in the VFL this is the perfect opportunity to approach Mark "Choco" Williams.

We can then look to offer Mark "Choco" Williams the combined role of head coach of the Casey Demons VFL side and also make him head of development for the Melbourne Football Club. I think this is a great opportunity and I hope that the Demons  make this offer to Mark "Choco" Williams as I would love someone with his football IQ and his quality character around the Melbourne Football Club.

Development has been a massive issue for the Demons over the past 10 to 15 years and me MUST get this problem addressed. I am confident that Mark "Choco" Williams is the man for the job.

 

During yesterday's AFL Trade Radio segment "AFL Exchange", Mitch Cleary said that Alan Richardson will be taking on a part head of football role as well as head of coaching role, whilst Mahoney would be taking on a role "in the wider footy department", including list management.

17 hours ago, Supreme_Demon said:

Time to get Mark "Choco" Williams into a role at the Melbourne Football Club.

No money ?

18 hours ago, Supreme_Demon said:

Time to get Mark "Choco" Williams into a role at the Melbourne Football Club.

That would be the mad Choco Williams who decided out of spite that he would hold a press conference and announce that his assistant coach Dean Bailey would be Melbourne's next coach. 

The mad Choco Williams who in his greatest moment as the siren rang making him a Premiership Coach could only think of having a go at the Club's main sponsor. 

The mad Choco Williams who has burnt off a series of minor clubs which were the only places he could get a gig. 

I don't think so. The days of getting a mad firebrand into the place are long gone. 

4 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

During yesterday's AFL Trade Radio segment "AFL Exchange", Mitch Cleary said that Alan Richardson will be taking on a part head of football role as well as head of coaching role, whilst Mahoney would be taking on a role "in the wider footy department", including list management.

Truly hope this doesn't mean they are going to move Jason Taylor. Isn't Mahoney responsible for List Management now. Look where that's got us. 

7 minutes ago, It's Time said:

Truly hope this doesn't mean they are going to move Jason Taylor. Isn't Mahoney responsible for List Management now. Look where that's got us. 

I don't have any problems with our list management. 6 years ago we had a vfl list. To drag us up to the current level is a tough job when you are a small club with no success. 

35 minutes ago, old dee said:

I don't have any problems with our list management. 6 years ago we had a vfl list. To drag us up to the current level is a tough job when you are a small club with no success. 

Agreed. However, there have been a series of very poor list management decisions made over the past few years which appear to have eaten up a lot of salary cap space which has left us out of the conversation in pursuing a series of A and B list players. Look at what StKilda have achieved the last few years and Carlton the last couple of years. 

7 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

During yesterday's AFL Trade Radio segment "AFL Exchange", Mitch Cleary said that Alan Richardson will be taking on a part head of football role as well as head of coaching role, whilst Mahoney would be taking on a role "in the wider footy department", including list management.

So pretty much what I mooted might happen. Righto. ;)

With the soft cap coming down and the team under performing, staff will understand that change is necessary and that keeping a job (almost any job) is the most important thing.  Mahoney will get his head around that if he hasn't already.

 

Yes another change to Godwin’s personnel.  
 

Sam Radford has also decided / continues to go to full time teaching and so has stepped down from the Casey role.  He will be doing Opposition Analysis/strategy/education work as a part time role.  
 

I’d like to see someone like Jared Rivers back as Casey coach. I heard him talk about the game in 2019 and he seemed very astute and decisive about modern day footy. 

On 10/30/2020 at 12:41 PM, It's Time said:

Agreed. However, there have been a series of very poor list management decisions made over the past few years which appear to have eaten up a lot of salary cap space which has left us out of the conversation in pursuing a series of A and B list players. Look at what StKilda have achieved the last few years and Carlton the last couple of years. 

And I don't remember Carlton or Saints playing  in A Prelim Final or winning more games than lost for 3 out of 4 last seasons.

Apparently we can start expecting a bit more news in this area the next few days or so.

The coaches are having the review findings presented to them along with the changes to staff and structure tomorrow.

Haven't heard anything yet about who might come in, I would guess it's being kept very quiet out of respect for those that are being moved on.

 

 

15 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Apparently we can start expecting a bit more news in this area the next few days or so.

The coaches are having the review findings presented to them along with the changes to staff and structure tomorrow.

Haven't heard anything yet about who might come in, I would guess it's being kept very quiet out of respect for those that are being moved on.

 

 

Thanks for the updates.

Must admit i am slightly excited for some change. 

Goodwin is all out of excuses if he doesn't deliver next season.  How many changes in the coaching panel has he had since he arrived?  Hes the last man standing.

Top 4 or bust in 2021.

 

1 hour ago, 58er said:

And I don't remember Carlton or Saints playing  in A Prelim Final or winning more games than lost for 3 out of 4 last seasons.

Not really interested in that Prelim any more. Unfortunately not relevant to the last two years. So you're happy with this season because we barely won a few more games than we lost?

As for Saints and Carlton. I'm talking about the future not the past. Lets talk at the end of next season. We started our rebuilds way before them and Saints have sailed past us. On the basis of this year there's every chance Blues will pass us next year if we are treading water. Lions and Port have also already sailed past us. This comp waits for no one.  

So Goodwin survives and has assistants changed around him to give him all the support he needs again. 

Well guess what Goody, no more excuses, no more trying to fix the f50/ midfield connection, it needs to work in 2021 or there is the door. 
 

Last chance saloon. 

hopefully we are getting some assistants with past coaching experience at good teams, Yze is a great start

Edited November 1, 20204 yr by DavidNeitz9