Is Alistair Clarkson worth a discussion

[Fork 'em 6,983]

52 minutes ago, Caligula's cohort said:

Ross of the Lyon variety for me. Firstly Roos instilled 3 years of his mantra into our playing list and most of them are still on our list. Roos taught everything he knew to Lyon so we would be able to quickly assimilate to his playing structures. Clarkson likes tall and lean kids with great skills, or small and fast forwards... most of which we don't have. Clarkson may rate our side but it is completely different to what he is used to managing. 

I think you'll find it was Roos who utilised Ross Lyons game plan at the Swans.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,202]

2 hours ago, Little Goffy said:

Denis Pagan,  Michael Malthouse are both available, too.

I'm sure you see my argument, and I accept it is not total, but that would be my concern.

You mean like when Collingwood poached Malthouse from the Eagles?

[London Demon 259]

This is fantasy. There’s no way Clarkson would even think of coming to a club as hopeless as MFC

[dl4e 5,851]

5 hours ago, London Demon said:

This is fantasy. There’s no way Clarkson would even think of coming to a club as hopeless as MFC

True. He also played footy for us so do you think he would be silly enough to coach us ?

[Delusional demon 82 1,197]

Carlton tried this approach twice in the last 20 years, put them back at least 10 

Clarko has been coaching since 2004 - I remember seeing him as a runner for us in ‘98 under Daniher post retirement - we also had Fagan as an assistant then too !!! 

We need to be looking for the next Clarko 

[Fork 'em 6,983]

4 minutes ago, Delusional demon 82 said:

Carlton tried this approach twice in the last 20 years, put them back at least 10 

Clarko has been coaching since 2004 - I remember seeing him as a runner for us in ‘98 under Daniher post retirement - we also had Fagan as an assistant then too !!! 

We need to be looking for the next Clarko 

Luke Hodge.
 

 

Edited July 31, 2020 by Fork 'em

[billyblanks32 4]

Teague is a prototype good modern coach. Doesn't over coach structure/method. Encourages players to take the game on, play their natural instincts & style.

[Sir Why You Little 37,008]

19 minutes ago, Fork 'em said:

Luke Hodge.
 

 

Worth considering, but can a new Coach deal with this Club?

We are Special Needs...

[Sydee 4,399]

9 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Worth considering, but can a new Coach deal with this Club?

We are Special Needs...

An excellent point - we have so many complete duffers i doubt it personally 

The number of times last night I was left speechless at the complete 

a) inability to physically compete, tackle effectively, hold ground
b) complete an effective disposal (other than directly to an opposition player)
c) demonstrate any capacity to bring the ball inside 50 to our advantage 

was staggering - my money was on Port as i knew they were certainties the minute I read comments that we were playing good football the last few weeks and could win - hilarious - this sort of carp is served up time and time again by this group. The reality is this team is full of complete pretenders who seem very content with their paycheck and have either no desire or no ability to achieve real success

[Sir Why You Little 37,008]

7 minutes ago, Sydee said:

An excellent point - we have so many complete duffers i doubt it personally 

The number of times last night I was left speechless at the complete 

a) inability to physically compete, tackle effectively, hold ground
b) complete an effective disposal (other than directly to an opposition player)
c) demonstrate any capacity to bring the ball inside 50 to our advantage 

was staggering - my money was on Port as i knew they were certainties the minute I read comments that we were playing good football the last few weeks and could win - hilarious - this sort of carp is served up time and time again by this group. The reality is this team is full of complete pretenders who seem very content with their paycheck and have either no desire or no ability to achieve real success

And that is exactly what we were hearing on here 10 years ago. 
And in that time, nothing but turmoil and false dawns....

We we need the best coach in the land, who does not come on board just to fix up a mess, but to Coach for sustained success....

Change History 

[Sydee 4,399]

2 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

And that is exactly what we were hearing on here 10 years ago. 
And in that time, nothing but turmoil and false dawns....

We we need the best coach in the land, who does not come on board just to fix up a mess, but to Coach for sustained success....

Change History 

I'm all for that - been watching this tripe for 50+ years - with fleeting moments of partial success only to collapse into a complete rabble soon after

Been so many false dawns lost any belief change is possible  

[Sir Why You Little 37,008]

It has begun...

[Demon Disciple 12,073]

20 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

It has begun...

Who cares, with our current board refusing to admit they got the extension wrong, I doubt they’d have the foresight to even contemplate such a move. Even if every single supporter (which is getting fewer by the day) were to gather at AAMI and scream at the top of our lungs, they still wouldn’t hear us.

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,790]

15 hours ago, olisik said:

Knowing Mahoney, he would be talking to Rodney Eade before he does Clarko

Is Peter Rhode still looking for a gig?

[picket fence 17,100]

15 hours ago, AC/DeeC said:

...and many others will be suggested - this week and so on - I say we stick wit h Goody.

Why?? Give me some insights?

[Sir Why You Little 37,008]

4 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

Who cares, with our current board refusing to admit they got the extension wrong, I doubt they’d have the foresight to even contemplate such a move. Even if every single supporter (which is getting fewer by the day) were to gather at AAMI and scream at the top of our lungs, they still wouldn’t hear us.

The board will listen if it gets hot enough. 
Sponsorships and Members....

[The Swimming Dee 1,904]

2 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

The board will listen if it gets hot enough. 
Sponsorships and Members....

I have been a member for 20 years...not sure I’m going to sign up next year. Enough is enough 

[Sir Why You Little 37,008]

1 minute ago, The Swimming Dee said:

I have been a member for 20 years...not sure I’m going to sign up next year. Enough is enough 

That’s exactly what i mean. 
Will you sign up if the board go after a Serious Career Coach?

[TRIGON 4,783]

3 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Worth considering, but can a new Coach deal with this Club?

We are Special Needs...

Clarkson and Hodge as an assistant?

[The Swimming Dee 1,904]

4 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

That’s exactly what i mean. 
Will you sign up if the board go after a Serious Career Coach?

Yes. Lyon or Clarko would be my preference. I don’t think the club will part ways with Goodwin though...COVID means he will see out his contract imo

[Deemania since 56 6,610]

15 hours ago, GCDee said:

We need to ask the question... Goody surely has KPI's in his contract he is getting no where near, giving us reason for early termination. 

He has had his time, we need to make a move now before it's too late. 

 

 

 

Too late in the decision-making is a critical consideration. Are we to recruit the equivalent of out Team at the end of Goodwin's contract? Could that be possible? Hell, no!

In the interim, we lose the bank balance. We sit back to watch the talent that we have - and the depth - rot on the vine under Goodwin and his compliant associates, including the mysterious Club Chairman. They're doing alright, Jack, bugger the Club and its short-to-medium term future. (Melbourne is experienced at a decade-long re-build, it can do it again); however, this is not what the fans, supporters and members desire.

This scant success must frustrate the players who once looked forward to successful footballing careers, albeit that such careers have mixed -- but early - termination points. All that hard work, personal endeavour and team co-operation, the wasted lives and aspirations. It is a stark reminder that the players' efforts were only essential in a drawn-out process of making up the numbers for the greater good of a series of coaches, their footballing lieutenants and advisors, and the fans who invest more than money alone into the Club.

Worse than this is the product of such non-development of players to perform at their peak with consistency. If I was a footballer at this time, I'd be looking for an exit point from the MFC as there is no pot of gold at the end of this rainbow. To start with talent and promise, and end up as an 'also ran' is simply not fair or justifiable.

Rant, rant, rant.

 

[Ted Lasso 19,414]

Raid the Hawks 

Clarkson and Yze to the dees. 

[Sir Why You Little 37,008]

11 minutes ago, The Swimming Dee said:

Yes. Lyon or Clarko would be my preference. I don’t think the club will part ways with Goodwin though...COVID means he will see out his contract imo

End of ‘22. He won’t last that long if last night is any indication of his ongoing abilities 

Good and Bad Debt. 

[Demon Disciple 12,073]

7 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

Raid the Hawks 

Clarkson and Yze to the dees. 

Yze as playing coach? Lord knows we need his kicking skills

Edited July 31, 2020 by Demon Disciple

[Demon Disciple 12,073]

2 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

End of ‘22. He won’t last that long if last night is any indication of his ongoing abilities 

Good and Bad Debt. 

Agree. I’d see the removal of Goodwin and installing a half decent coach as a worthwhile investment. How many millions will be lost if Goodwin stays on?