CHANGES: Rd 02 vs Carlton

[Caligula's cohort 1,014]

My 22

FB: - N.JETTA (180cm) - O.McDONALD (196cm) - J.LEVER (195cm)

HB:  - M.HIBBERD (186cm) - S.MAY (193cm) -  C.SALEM (183cm)

? - A.TOMLINSON (194cm) - C.OLIVER (187cm) - E.LANGDON (182cm) 

HF: - C.PETRACCA (186cm) - S.WEIDEMAN (195cm) - J.MELKSHAM (186cm)

FF: -  B.FRITSCH (188cm)- T.McDONALD (194cm) - K.PICKETT (170CM)

RR: - M.GAWN (208cm) - A.BRAYSHAW (187cm) - J.VINEY (178cm)

INT: - N.JONES (180cm), A.VANDENBERG (188cm), J.HARMES (185cm), J.LOCKHART (177cm)

 

EMG: H.BENNEL (185CM), B.PRUESS (206cm), H.PETTY( 197cm), J.HUNT (187cm)

[Damo 3,254]

I think Lever is on shaky ground and if he is injured even slightly they wont play him. He needs to be more than a modern Zac Dawson and go for marks rather than punching. Id play Smith instead if Jake is injured.

[dl4e 5,851]

I would be putting Harmes on to tag Cripps.

[Willmoy1947 3,971]

22 hours ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

tom boyd shoulda won a norm playing back up ruck and tall target

6feet five inch, 96Kgs, Weideman playing back up ruck and forward for Melbourne. Ask anyone of 70 with a memory, and there is one + Flag right there.....

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

On 6/5/2020 at 1:59 AM, WERRIDEE said:

EMRG: JETTA, HIBBERD, O.MCDONALD, WEIDEMAN

I needed a laugh, thanks.

[one_demon 826]

3 hours ago, Half forward flank said:

...after a year from hell and an injury recovery period, covid, if that is our best half back line we will not win finals. 

I agree with this.   Every time I look at our defence,  I see problems. 

[Willmoy1947 3,971]

After and in consideration of the fact that we suckered/snookered/pointed/obligated into playing over in WA in R 1, I'm happy to go with selectors on this, the 2nd round.

[58er 6,000]

1 hour ago, willmoy said:

6feet five inch, 96Kgs, Weideman playing back up ruck and forward for Melbourne. Ask anyone of 70 with a memory, and there is one + Flag right there.....

Graeme Wise at first ruck very wiry type but don't think he had a long career Games any one?

[58er 6,000]

1 hour ago, dl4e said:

I would be putting Harmes on to tag Cripps.

If only to keep him out of the backline !!!

not Harmseys  caper Really.

[Moonshadow 17,556]

51 minutes ago, one_demon said:

I agree with this.   Every time I look at our defence,  I see problems. 

And yet if not for our R1 defence, WCE would've won by 10+ goals. Darling and Kennedy well held.

Should our connection going inside 50 improve by 25% I think we'd win an additional 5-6 games per season. To me, that's our glaring weakness.

[58er 6,000]

1 hour ago, Caligula's cohort said:

My 22

FB: - N.JETTA (180cm) - O.McDONALD (196cm) - J.LEVER (195cm)

HB:  - M.HIBBERD (186cm) - S.MAY (193cm) -  C.SALEM (183cm)

? - A.TOMLINSON (194cm) - C.OLIVER (187cm) - E.LANGDON (182cm) 

HF: - C.PETRACCA (186cm) - S.WEIDEMAN (195cm) - J.MELKSHAM (186cm)

FF: -  B.FRITSCH (188cm)- T.McDONALD (194cm) - K.PICKETT (170CM)

RR: - M.GAWN (208cm) - A.BRAYSHAW (187cm) - J.VINEY (178cm)

INT: - N.JONES (180cm), A.VANDENBERG (188cm), J.HARMES (185cm), J.LOCKHART (177cm)

 

EMG: H.BENNEL (185CM), B.PRUESS (206cm), H.PETTY( 197cm), J.HUNT (187cm)

Would defy logic to name Petty Pruess as emergencies as they didn't play last Sat.

[58er 6,000]

1 minute ago, Moonshadow said:

And yet if not for our R1 defence, WCE would've won by 10+ goals. Darling and Kennedy well held.

Should our connection going inside 50 improve by 25% I think we'd win an additional 5-6 games per season. To me, that's our glaring weakness.

Absolutely Moon and last year with a our injuries and surgeries the same 5 games at least.

Cattle better this year and more speed and versatility  ie Kossie Bedford Chandler AVB Hannan Brown Jackson and the resting mids and rucks plus even Dslem I reckon at times!

[Demonland 70,326]

 

[58er 6,000]

2 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

I like it. Probably Bennell is not quite ready.  Anb would be the one on notice imo

Hibbo for me 

[Willmoy1947 3,971]

31 minutes ago, 58er said:

Graeme Wise at first ruck very wiry type but don't think he had a long career Games any one?

Reasonably mean, i reckon 40 to 50 perhaps.

[one_demon 826]

1 hour ago, Moonshadow said:

And yet if not for our R1 defence, WCE would've won by 10+ goals. Darling and Kennedy well held.

I mean in terms of winning a premiership,  not so much home and away matches.   In other words,  does it look like a premiership winning defence?

Edited June 8, 2020 by one_demon

[Bitter but optimistic 22,066]

2 hours ago, 58er said:

Graeme Wise at first ruck very wiry type but don't think he had a long career Games any one?

There is a picture (somewhere) of Ditta bursting on the scene in his first game for the Saints - he was sitting on the Melbourne ruckman's shoulder at a boundary throw in - I reckon it was Graeme Wise.

[Half forward flank 1,022]

2 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

And yet if not for our R1 defence, WCE would've won by 10+ goals. Darling and Kennedy well held.

Should our connection going inside 50 improve by 25% I think we'd win an additional 5-6 games per season. To me, that's our glaring weakness.

I believe WC never got out of second gear all day.  If there was going to be clutch moments Darling and Keneddy would of buried us. 

[Caligula's cohort 1,014]

2 hours ago, 58er said:

Would defy logic to name Petty Pruess as emergencies as they didn't play last Sat.

It was more to do with structure. Petty can play fwd/back and Burgess had mentioned weeks ago he was back in full training. Pruess is our only available ruck who is AFL standard and he was close to full fitness in round 1. Perhaps your logic needs some reviewing. 

[Watts the matter 1,235]

4 minutes ago, Caligula's cohort said:

It was more to do with structure. Petty can play fwd/back and Burgess had mentioned weeks ago he was back in full training. Pruess is our only available ruck who is AFL standard and he was close to full fitness in round 1. Perhaps your logic needs some reviewing. 

It's pretty clear that they are not going to be in the discussion for playing this week as they are fringe players who didn't play on Saturday. They will not be listed as emergencies when we have about 38 players fit.

[WA Demon Boy 966]

Bennell has to play, this club took a risk in getting him now it's time to double down on the risk and get him out there. Club won't play him a crazy amount of TOG, but it needs to add some excitement to the mix and players feed off that. I would rather a 75% fit Harley than a conservative player out on the park. Not to mention the quarters are shorter so can be cautious with how long he is out there for. 

I don't see a point in holding off on him playing if he is begging Goodwin to play. If we had other classy movers like him then I would say hold off, but we just don't. 

Unleash him



 

[Caligula's cohort 1,014]

8 minutes ago, Watts the matter said:

It's pretty clear that they are not going to be in the discussion for playing this week as they are fringe players who didn't play on Saturday. They will not be listed as emergencies when we have about 38 players fit.

Weid and Jackson were named emergencies for round 1 and were clearly not ready to play. Weid had a rolled ankle and wasn't even close to playing and Jackson is a long way off from playing in the 1sts. So it's really anyone's guess who they choose as emergencies. I chose those four players as it works well with structures. Each player represents an area of need should someone in the 22 be unable to play. Bennel plays fwd/mid, Pruess is our only back up Ruck, Petty plays fwd/back and Hunt is a HHF/HHB.  

[picket fence 16,702]

On 6/7/2020 at 2:41 PM, Lord Nev said:

For mine (well, a bit of a mix of opinion and realistic guesses), I would have...

B: Jetta, May, Hore
HB: Salem, Lever, Harmes
B: Langdon, Brayshaw, Tomlinson
HF: Melksham, Fritsch, Petracca
F: Bedford, T.McDonald, Pickett

FOL: Gawn, Oliver, Viney

IC: Jackson, Jones, Hibberd, Neal-Bullen

Lockhart & Weid probably unlucky, wouldn't be surprised at all to see them play.

Being conservative with Bennell and vandenBerg.

 

No to Fritsch at CHF T MAC to CHF WEEDS to play rest of the year at FF UNLESS he remains Goaless after 3 Games. Smith must play and ANB is surplus to needs as is Hibberd! Jackson not yet! 

[Lord Nev 13,512]

2 minutes ago, picket fence said:

No to Fritsch at CHF T MAC to CHF WEEDS to play rest of the year at FF UNLESS he remains Goaless after 3 Games. Smith must play and ANB is surplus to needs as is Hibberd! Jackson not yet! 

Yeah, was very close to picking Weid at CHF. Not against it at all. The thing that tipped the balance for me was the short quarters on a quick track. Thought it might be good to go a little smaller.

Why "must" Smith play? What form are you going off there? Bloke hasn't played an AFL game for about 20 months. I like him, but not sure why so many are all of a sudden excited by him.

Anyways, you've got 2 players coming in and 3 players coming out there.

[picket fence 16,702]

I reckon and this is just my opinion this bloke has some serious X factor, 

1 Has pace

2 Plays short or tall

3 Can Mark

4 Very good disposal

5 Can play Forward OR Back therfore offering flexibility

6 Brave!

Sadly Cruelled by Injury if he gets a consistent crack at it will be a great player for MFC IMV!