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On 5/24/2020 at 10:27 AM, Moonshadow said:

I actually think the logistics of it aren't too hard.

Enlarge Goschs oval to be similar to MCG and build gym, admin, etc on carpark F, which is between AAMI and Goschs Paddock grassland. Three story building should be sufficient on such a large space. Four story if underground car parking is included. Numbers of staff/players/FD at AFL clubs will be shrunk dramatically soon.

We already use the grassland around the oval for rehab group, it's possible some Aussie rules posts could be put up at one end, even if it's not a defined oval. It's a big space which is not protected parkland and IMO underused. Take down a few trees trees to enlarge the current oval, shift the internal footpath, put in some decent landscaping to appease Council and resurface the oval up to AFL standard.

The hard part of all this is finding the money, which will be near impossible for the next 10 years. It's also no certainty that the other sporting clubs will survive and/or stay at AAMI

Hi Mr Shadow back after a length illness that is still not fixed, have had no interest in sport last few months however life goes on and I come on to Demonland and the second thing I see is the subject of a home ground. 

Your comments are spot on! 

I have no problem with the MFC being head quartered at Casey but it will never happen.

The board has said on a number of occasions that the facility has be near the G that leaves one option the Goschs paddock area.

IMO the plan would have been announced by now if not for the Virus.

The state government is not going to be seen giving money to a silver tails football club in this envoirnment. IMO unless we can fund it ourselves the tradition will continue. Forget about us having a new home for the rest of this decade the funds just won't be available.

Collingwood won a flag using Goschs we can too it is not ideal but there is no other alternative while the facility has to be close to the G!

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    Welcome back, old dee.  Wondered where you'd got to!  Here's to a full and speedy recovery from your illness.

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    Tonight I toast a single malt to old dee's health.

    You were much missed on here and I hope you're back to your insightful best, mate.

    Cheers Mr Old!

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    23 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

    Tonight I toast a single malt to old dee's health.

    You were much missed on here and I hope you're back to your insightful best, mate.

    Cheers Mr Old!

    Thanks, you don't appreciate your health until it changes.

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    2 hours ago, daisycutter said:

    for a vfl club, yes

    No for an AFL club. Much better than Gosch’s $hithole. Have you ever been there? It could easily be further developed too!

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    1 minute ago, President Dee Trump said:

    No for an AFL club. Much better than Gosch’s $hithole. Have you ever been there?

    well for one thing it doesn't have the management/administrative facilities that we have at both the mcg and aami centre

    but it certainly would be good wind training for games in tassie :)

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    45 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

    well for one thing it doesn't have the management/administrative facilities that we have at both the mcg and aami centre

    but it certainly would be good wind training for games in tassie :)

    Nonsense. Great facilities and the oval is also excellent.

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    11 minutes ago, President Dee Trump said:

    Nonsense. Great facilities and the oval is also excellent.

    the oval last year was a quagmire due to broken drainage and the facilities are okay but nothing great. If it has a gym for example it's rather basic.

    It does however have space and expansion capability going for it plus it is located in a large area zoned for high performance sports

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    Welcome back Old Dee missed your input, hope your health improves and that the Dees have some wins to make you happy ? 

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    1 hour ago, President Dee Trump said:

    It’s only half an hour out.

    No it’s not. At best you’re looking at 45mins from Richmond. At its worst it’s well over an hour. 

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    2 hours ago, old dee said:

    The state government is not going to be seen giving money to a silver tails football club in this envoirnment. IMO unless we can fund it ourselves the tradition will continue. Forget about us having a new home for the rest of this decade the funds just won't be available.

    Maybe, maybe not...  but the Federal government might,  as part of a stimulus package to get people back to work.  Better strike whilst the irons Hotter than Hell.

    The Feds have saved 60 Billion,  and they spent 70 Billion trying to keep their unemployment numbers low,  via that stimulus idea.

     

    When times are tough put the squeeze on them.  those bluetongued Liberals. 

    Test them,  to see if they cough, or sneeze up,  some cashola for our plight.

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    1 hour ago, Cards13 said:

    No it’s not. At best you’re looking at 45mins from Richmond. At its worst it’s well over an hour. 

    It beggars belief that Berwick Volkswagen still advertise the fact they are 25 minutes to the CBD.

    That’s clearly at 4am during stage 3 lockdown laws. 

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    Beetle  +  VW.  any connection,  'Btl' .?

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    Had a bit of a play with how a redeveloped Gosch's Paddock could look.

    Summary:

    • Collingwood sized oval and running track
    • MFC Facility with Pool / Gym / Offices (and the "Social Club / Function Centre")   - 3 stories high. Approx 
    • Increased underground car parking
    • Indoor Hall (like the EFC Hangar) towards the end of the facility. Modelled on the Casey Fields hall currently being developed but size increased to fit as much hall as possible. Can be used by Melb Victory / Storm. 
    • 2 x Rugby / Football pitches along Punt Road
    • Upgraded running tracks around and between ovals
    • Re-aligned off-ramp from City Link to meet up with Kelso Street intersection. Increased parkland.
    • Common grass area.
    • Small hill for oval viewing in top right hand corner.
    • Upgraded seating, playground, exercise facilities placed around the park.

    Thoughts?

     

     

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    Edited by 13thFlagIsComing

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    1 hour ago, Cards13 said:

    No it’s not. At best you’re looking at 45mins from Richmond. At its worst it’s well over an hour. 

    At the worst of gridlock times on the Monash carpark, you're getting closer to 1.5 hours Cards.

    It truly is a [censored] road. There are way too many on-ramps, imo.

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    4 minutes ago, 13thFlagIsComing said:

    Thoughts?

    We should have exclusive rights to the indoor hall, 13th. Anything that is built for us as a training facility should be ours and only ours (from a professional organisation perspective). Happy for it to also be used as a community facility, except for all those [censored] NIMBYS (they'd be the first to want to access it too i reckon)

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    5 hours ago, old dee said:

     

    The state government is not going to be seen giving money to a silver tails football club in this envoirnment. IMO unless we can fund it ourselves the tradition will continue. Forget about us having a new home for the rest of this decade the funds just won't be available.

    Collingwood won a flag using Goschs we can too it is not ideal but there is no other alternative while the facility has to be close to the G!

    Silver Tails is such a falsity. We're one of the least financially able of the Victorian clubs.

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    49 minutes ago, 13thFlagIsComing said:

    Had a bit of a play with how a redeveloped Gosch's Paddock could look.

    Summary:

    • Collingwood sized oval and running track
    • MFC Facility with Pool / Gym / Offices (and the "Social Club / Function Centre")   - 3 stories high. Approx 
    • Increased underground car parking
    • Indoor Hall (like the EFC Hangar) towards the end of the facility. Modelled on the Casey Fields hall currently being developed but size increased to fit as much hall as possible. Can be used by Melb Victory / Storm. 
    • 2 x Rugby / Football pitches along Punt Road
    • Upgraded running tracks around and between ovals
    • Re-aligned off-ramp from City Link to meet up with Kelso Street intersection. Increased parkland.
    • Common grass area.
    • Small hill for oval viewing in top right hand corner.
    • Upgraded seating, playground, exercise facilities placed around the park.

    Thoughts?

     

     

    Screen_Shot_2020-05-25_at_9_03.31_pm.png

    Good effort. Where's the bar?

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    1 hour ago, 13thFlagIsComing said:

    Had a bit of a play with how a redeveloped Gosch's Paddock could look.

    Summary:

    • Collingwood sized oval and running track
    • MFC Facility with Pool / Gym / Offices (and the "Social Club / Function Centre")   - 3 stories high. Approx 
    • Increased underground car parking
    • Indoor Hall (like the EFC Hangar) towards the end of the facility. Modelled on the Casey Fields hall currently being developed but size increased to fit as much hall as possible. Can be used by Melb Victory / Storm. 
    • 2 x Rugby / Football pitches along Punt Road
    • Upgraded running tracks around and between ovals
    • Re-aligned off-ramp from City Link to meet up with Kelso Street intersection. Increased parkland.
    • Common grass area.
    • Small hill for oval viewing in top right hand corner.
    • Upgraded seating, playground, exercise facilities placed around the park.

    Thoughts?

     

     

    Screen_Shot_2020-05-25_at_9_03.31_pm.png

    I don’t like the “hill” between our oval and the “pitch”.... (tremendous work).

    59 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

    At the worst of gridlock times on the Monash carpark, you're getting closer to 1.5 hours Cards.

    It truly is a [censored] road. There are way too many on-ramps, imo.

    I just checked the maps on phone thingo and 44mins it tells me..... I know this minute ain’t reality of a few years from now or 3 months ago, saying 30mins is an outright lie (unless you live in Noble Park or Dandenong). Casey is too far for mine.

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