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The New Home Base & Training Ground Thread

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dog walking track, geez some people have to much time and money on their hands to be worrying about that

 
1 minute ago, The Cult of Disco Turner said:

Outrage over a dog walking track causing the cancelation of a decade long plan to build a desperately needed HQ for the oldest football club in the world would be the most MFC thing ever.

Caufield has certainly not been in the works for a decade. Every chance the project gets undone by NIMBYs unfortunately. That's the risk we've taken by trying to build this in such a contentious space.

Edited by KozzyCan

 

I’m sure that if the MFC were to supply dog waste bags around the walking track, many would happily accept our moving in.

Always wanting something for nothing……………people make me sick.

Speculation only, but the way Guerra talked in his first two or three interviews as incoming CEO, already shifting the possibility to somewhere other than Caulfield, I think the club knew this would likely fall over, or at the very least were trying to temper expectations.

As for this careful piece of framing "Melbourne is hopeful its business case on the new site will be complete by the end of the year amid what the club says is broad support from local residents for the project."

This sounds like it's all over this year.

Edited by Adam The God


Disappointing we have to find out about the change in approach via the media. Understand the sensitive stage of the project but think members deserved to hear some kind of update by now direct from the club rather than via the HS.

The new area will be better and is the old Freedman stables with better access to streets and more space in a self contained allotment. Closer to trains as well.

7 minutes ago, KozzyCan said:

Caufield has certainly not been in the works for a decade. Every chance the project gets undone by NIMBYs unfortunately. That's the risk we've taken by trying to build this in such a contentious space.

It’s so not a contentious space. It’s disused paddocks with a few dog walkers. The only reason we don’t get our home up is if Kanga has pocketed some cash and someone else is going to develop it. This is wasted space on all levels. A couple of ovals wouldn’t use half the available land. Get it done!!

 
3 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

It’s so not a contentious space. It’s disused paddocks with a few dog walkers. The only reason we don’t get our home up is if Kanga has pocketed some cash and someone else is going to develop it. This is wasted space on all levels. A couple of ovals wouldn’t use half the available land. Get it done!!

We're trying to build a training ground in the middle of a horse racing track. Of course it's contentious.

Sounds like it could be better than the thin sliver of land left over from the Mt Scopus purchase.


4 minutes ago, KozzyCan said:

We're trying to build a training ground in the middle of a horse racing track. Of course it's contentious.

The land is currently completely wasted. They should be welcoming us with open arms. I’m an occasional dog walker there and it’s amazing that in the middle of a housing crisis we have a huge amount of vacant land surrounded by amenities and zero development. Who’s getting paid?

4 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

The land is currently completely wasted. They should be welcoming us with open arms. I’m an occasional dog walker there and it’s amazing that in the middle of a housing crisis we have a huge amount of vacant land surrounded by amenities and zero development. Who’s getting paid?

Kanga obviously is, that much is clear. He’d even argue that the friggin disc golfers cannot be displaced as there is nowhere else for them to go.

3 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

The land is currently completely wasted. They should be welcoming us with open arms. I’m an occasional dog walker there and it’s amazing that in the middle of a housing crisis we have a huge amount of vacant land surrounded by amenities and zero development. Who’s getting paid?

Maybe it is wasted but that doesn't mean it's going to be easy for us to secure. So far the MRC have not really been particularly enthusiastic towards the project and as a major stakeholder in the area that makes things more difficult to navigate.

The fact that we're having to work out a new spot to put our training facility because the first choice was disrupted by the Mt Scopus sale is not encouraging.

The Age 01/04/2029

Latest word emanating from the MFC suggests planning is well advanced pending Council approval. The City of Monash, despite some reports of protests from some councilors,has announced work is progressing on plans to reinvent the old Clayton Tip into a state of the art sporting facility. The football club acknowledges past disappointments and false starts but insists the new location is perfect suited to the club's needs. A spokesman for the club insists all rumours to the contrary are pure rubbish. We're tipping this will be their new home.

31 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

Speculation only, but the way Guerra talked in his first two or three interviews as incoming CEO, already shifting the possibility to somewhere other than Caulfield, I think the club knew this would likely fall over, or at the very least were trying to temper expectations.

As for this careful piece of framing "Melbourne is hopeful its business case on the new site will be complete by the end of the year amid what the club says is broad support from local residents for the project."

This sounds like it's all over this year.

Unfortunately Adam if it’s not coming from the horses mouth I do not believe the slant of the story line. I don’t trust the media, period.


30 minutes ago, Big Gun said:

Disappointing we have to find out about the change in approach via the media. Understand the sensitive stage of the project but think members deserved to hear some kind of update by now direct from the club rather than via the HS.

Do you believe and trust the source???

27 minutes ago, Redleg said:

The new area will be better and is the old Freedman stables with better access to streets and more space in a self contained allotment. Closer to trains as well.

Now Redleg is a source that I do trust.

Yaaawwwwwwn!

43 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

This sounds like it's all over this year.

Bit like our season.


39 minutes ago, DeeZone said:

Now Redleg is a source that I do trust.

I did not know of this new development in the project, but from my knowledge of the area, this is clearly a bigger site and better situated.

The Freedmans walked horses onto the track, directly at the rear of the stables, which would clearly allow direct access to the ovals by players, that would not appear to require any change to the mooted plans for the ovals and inner track development.

On 16/02/2023 at 12:32, No. 31 said:

I have no inside knowledge. I have only been to the Caulfield Cup once and sat some Monash University exams at the racecourse many moons ago, however I do pass the area by train regularly. I remember parking for my exams where they new apartment complexes are and doing panic last minute cramming in the car 😁

I suspect that any MFC training facility would be located in the red areas I circed. That is the southern, Glen Huntly end of Caulfield Racecourse, close to Glen Eira Secondary College. Allowing the school some level of access to some facilities may even bring in some decent government funding ... something to think about 🤔

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On 16/02/2023 at 18:30, Redleg said:

Absolutely. Huge areas where stables were available for development. A low rise grandstand built far in enough from the back of the track, wouldn’t obscure race viewing from the current grandstands.

I'm guessing these posts a couple of years ago are the area that is now been discussed. Looks easier to get to, walkable from Glen Huntley station

1 hour ago, Big Gun said:

Disappointing we have to find out about the change in approach via the media. Understand the sensitive stage of the project but think members deserved to hear some kind of update by now direct from the club rather than via the HS.

To wait this long to find out the original proposal is now most likely OOB.

We are the oldest and SLOWEST club in the land in terms of staying in touch with the rest of the comp.

No real movers or shakers at the top that can pull strings it seems. Meanwhile the lowly Dogs are leaps and bounds ahead.

Imagine every player in the land knowing we now have the worst facilities and any possibility of a state-of-the-art facility being built is at least 5 years away AND may not happen at all.

 

The proposal has been in the pipeline for decades, 1980’s when I recall the lame idea at the track.

It’s just that the bored were too lazy to inspect Pert Melbourne and the old Williamstown racecourse, probably discussed it over a countery instead.

On another matter the hundreds of drawings produced showing our new facilities at the MCC and Caulfield districts. Produced over the last fifty years are not free, can cost up too 100 grand each.

Sometimes in business you’ve just got to cut your losses.

Does anyone actually believe this will come to fruition? I'm firmly in the "I'll believe it when I see it" camp.

Is Pert still collecting a paycheck?


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