Captaincy 2020

[Sir Why You Little 37,016]

2 hours ago, Mental Demons said:

Lets hope the added pressure of mumbling through serious post-game interviews does not make his game go backwards or that he inherits Viney's injury issues and misses much of the season. I think this is an appointment for fans and will not help with any on field problems. How important is a captain anyway?

Oh dear....

[Fritta and Turner 4,403]

Oh bother...should have asked the fella himself when I saw him in that new cafe in Murrumbeena before Xmas...(made my day)

[hardtack 10,537]

1 hour ago, drysdale demon said:

So a lot of posters are going to off half cocked on most likely a garbage post. Gullible is such a good word.

I like to think “gulpable” might be a better word... the OP being culpable with regards to the veracity of his post and the posters accepting the post at face value being gullible. 

[Lord Travis 10,727]

2 hours ago, Rab D Nesbitt said:

The club have done really well in preventing leaks recently and I don't see why the announcement of our 2020 captain should be any different. 

People keep saying the club is great at preventing leaks. That was true when Jackson was CEO, but since he left we’ve been leaking again. I was able to get draft and trade info weeks in advance with minimal effort (and posted in draft thread as proof). We are nowhere near as tight as we were 2-3 years ago. The leaks have returned, let’s just hope our good form returns too!

Edited December 28, 2019 by Lord Travis

[drysdale demon 4,830]

15 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

People keep saying the club is great at preventing leaks. That was true when Jackson was CEO, but since he left we’ve been leaking again. I was able to get draft and trade info weeks in advance with minimal effort (and posted in draft thread as proof). We are nowhere near as tight as we were 2-3 years ago. The leaks have returned, let’s just hope our good form returns too!

carp

[Willmoy1947 4,085]

I wanted Max and Macca as joint Captains

[Swooper1987 3,322]

Gawny has won the last two Ron Barassi Jnr Trophies for leadership.  Now that a vacancy has arisen with Jones stepping down he will be Captain (or co-Captain).  It's a no brainer and doesn't require a vote, a leak or anything else to determine. He's been Captain in all but title since 2016. When it is officially announced, it will be nothing more than a statement of the obvious.

[old55 23,530]

1 hour ago, Lord Travis said:

People keep saying the club is great at preventing leaks. That was true when Jackson was CEO, but since he left we’ve been leaking again. I was able to get draft and trade info weeks in advance with minimal effort (and posted in draft thread as proof). We are nowhere near as tight as we were 2-3 years ago. The leaks have returned, let’s just hope our good form returns too!

Yes I recall you said you'd be "disgusted" if we took Jackson and Pickett with our first 2 picks.

[KLV 1,765]

4 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

What’s happening with Viney? If you’re in the know re Max, you’d have to know if Viney will be kept on as a captain. Cheers. 

 

Doesn’t necessarily mean Viney is not co-captain, I don’t know that. 

[Lord Travis 10,727]

4 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

Yes I recall you said you'd be "disgusted" if we took Jackson and Pickett with our first 2 picks.

Also correctly posted 13 of the top 15 based on what a source at the club advised we and other clubs were doing. The leaks are an unfortunate fact now. A shame, but it doesn’t impact our onfield performance, and onfield is what matters.

Regarding Jackson and Kossie, I still think both were the wrong choice at their respective picks, but they’re in red and blue now so they have my support.

[old55 23,530]

4 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Also correctly posted 13 of the top 15 based on what a source at the club advised we and other clubs were doing. The leaks are an unfortunate fact now. A shame, but it doesn’t impact our onfield performance, and onfield is what matters.

Regarding Jackson and Kossie, I still think both were the wrong choice at their respective picks, but they’re in red and blue now so they have my support.

"Disgusted"

[Moonshadow 17,676]

1 hour ago, Lord Travis said:

People keep saying the club is great at preventing leaks. That was true when Jackson was CEO, but since he left we’ve been leaking again. I was able to get draft and trade info weeks in advance with minimal effort (and posted in draft thread as proof). We are nowhere near as tight as we were 2-3 years ago. The leaks have returned, let’s just hope our good form returns too!

Yeah, who would possibly have thought we were in need of a tall who can play forward or in the ruck, or that we need a small forward with X factor? 

FMD....

[Lord Travis 10,727]

7 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

"Disgusted"

What’s your point?

One if us is providing facts and their opinion on a subject.

The other is personally attacking an opinion.

Bringing the thread back on topic... Max seems the best choice for captain in 2020. He’s clearly the leader of the boy’s out there and also has star potential to lead and drag others with him. 

[Sir Why You Little 37,016]

1 hour ago, drysdale demon said:

carp

Why is it Crap??

Lord Travis has backed himself up rather well, maybe for once you are ill informed Dry, it is possible.

Edited December 28, 2019 by Sir Why You Little

[Foopy on the telly 529]

1 hour ago, Lord Travis said:

Also correctly posted 13 of the top 15 based on what a source at the club advised we and other clubs were doing. The leaks are an unfortunate fact now. A shame, but it doesn’t impact our onfield performance, and onfield is what matters.

Regarding Jackson and Kossie, I still think both were the wrong choice at their respective picks, but they’re in red and blue now so they have my support.

I know this’ll come across as straw-clutching but I remember seeing your post which did paint a different story:

https://demonland.com/forums/topic/46882-hayden-young-drafted-by-fremantle/?do=findComment&comment=1772824

Edited December 28, 2019 by nacnud
Do I need a reason?

[old55 23,530]

11 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

What’s your point?

One if us is providing facts and their opinion on a subject.

The other is personally attacking an opinion.

Bringing the thread back on topic... Max seems the best choice for captain in 2020. He’s clearly the leader of the boy’s out there and also has star potential to lead and drag others with him. 

I'm interested in whether you posted that you were "digusted" with our drafting before or after it was leaked to you.

Also keen to hear your explanation for posting inside info from a club official on a public website if you're so concerned with leaking?

[Gator 17,332]

13 hours ago, nacnud said:

I know this’ll come across as straw-clutching but I remember seeing your post which did paint a different story:

https://demonland.com/forums/topic/46882-hayden-young-drafted-by-fremantle/?do=findComment&comment=1772824

Good pick-up - just as Lord had been patting himself vigorously on the back.  

Not only did we not select Young, Sydney did not bid on Green. ?

Edited December 29, 2019 by ProDee

[dazzledavey36 54,819]

19 hours ago, FarNorthernD said:

I think Max could end up being one of our Clubs all time great captains. He is a natural leader who the team will follow

During my time supporting the club, Neita has been the one that has stood out for me. I started supporting in 1998 and never saw the likes of Garry Lyon lead this club. From what I have heard though, a fierce leader who was highly respected within the club and  AFL community was Lyon.

[rjay 24,916]

20 hours ago, KLV said:

Just heard, Max is captain 2020.

confirmed

 

12 hours ago, KLV said:

Doesn’t necessarily mean Viney is not co-captain, I don’t know that. 

The classic 'GNF' move...

[Moonshadow 17,676]

11 hours ago, nacnud said:

I know this’ll come across as straw-clutching but I remember seeing your post which did paint a different story:

https://demonland.com/forums/topic/46882-hayden-young-drafted-by-fremantle/?do=findComment&comment=1772824

Yes, indeed. Good work Duncan.

Throw enough scenarios out and at least one is bound to be correct.

[Megatron 886]

13 hours ago, nacnud said:

I know this’ll come across as straw-clutching but I remember seeing your post which did paint a different story:

https://demonland.com/forums/topic/46882-hayden-young-drafted-by-fremantle/?do=findComment&comment=1772824

[Lord Nev 13,512]

18 hours ago, nacnud said:

I know this’ll come across as straw-clutching but I remember seeing your post which did paint a different story:

https://demonland.com/forums/topic/46882-hayden-young-drafted-by-fremantle/?do=findComment&comment=1772824

 

7 hours ago, ProDee said:

Good pick-up - just as Lord had been patting himself vigorously on the back.  

Not only did we not select Young, Sydney did not bid on Green. ?

 

6 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

Yes, indeed. Good work Duncan.

Throw enough scenarios out and at least one is bound to be correct.

 

4 hours ago, Megatron said:

 

Not to interrupt a classic Demonland lynch mob, but I believe Lord Travis was referring to this post of his which was astonishingly accurate. Always interesting seeing some who contribute so little being so quick to criticize others who try to.

 

 

[Moonshadow 17,676]

3 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

Not to interrupt a classic Demonland lynch mob, but I believe Lord Travis was referring to this post of his which was astonishingly accurate. Always interesting seeing some who contribute so little being so quick to criticize others who try to.

So in a clear exercise of self promotion, a poster claims to have an anonymous MFC club link and after a number of attempts, names 12 of the first 15 picks correctly (not 13) and that's proof that our club has gone from tight lips to leak city? Righto.

Despite the belief that sources should not be revealed, I'd want to know the name of the club source at a minimum before giving credence to a contrarian poster.

Edited December 29, 2019 by Moonshadow

[Lord Nev 13,512]

44 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

So in a clear exercise of self promotion, a poster claims to have an anonymous MFC club link and after a number of attempts, names 12 of the first 15 picks correctly (not 13) and that's proof that our club has gone from tight lips to leak city? Righto.

Despite the belief that sources should not be revealed, I'd want to know the name of the club source at a minimum before giving credence to a contrarian poster.

Nowhere did I say anything about leaks or sources or such.

People are potting the guy for making a statement a month before the draft that didn't pan out. He might have made it up, might have been told wrong or things might have changed in that time. The fact remains however that he made a post about the draft order that was majorly spot on.

Personally, I much prefer to read that kind of post than the ones where anonymous internet posters whose only contribution is opinion gang up on someone who has actually contributed something productive.

[Moonshadow 17,676]

22 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Nowhere did I say anything about leaks or sources or such.

People are potting the guy for making a statement a month before the draft that didn't pan out. He might have made it up, might have been told wrong or things might have changed in that time. The fact remains however that he made a post about the draft order that was majorly spot on.

Personally, I much prefer to read that kind of post than the ones where anonymous internet posters whose only contribution is opinion gang up on someone who has actually contributed something productive.

Which, as you say, was preceded by a prediction that was 100% wrong.

Again, throw enough scenarios out and at least one is bound to be correct.

In the end, Lord Travis' case for us being leaky is based upon his contrarian draft prediction post, tenuous at best. We are nearly all anonymous on here, but only a few claim club inside intel and then get shirty when questioned.

You can prefer whatever you like, as will I.

Edited December 29, 2019 by Moonshadow