Road to the draft with Jason Taylor

[dazzledavey36 52,738]

Great insight. Have a listen to the podcast.

https://m.afl.com.au/news/2019-10-30/listen-who-is-in-melbournes-sights-with-pick-no3-at-the-draft

Edited October 30, 2019 by Demonland
Added the audio

[Gawn's Beard 372]

1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Great insight. Have a listen to the podcast.

https://m.afl.com.au/news/2019-10-30/listen-who-is-in-melbournes-sights-with-pick-no3-at-the-draft

Able to provide a summary for those short on time?

[Lord Travis 10,458]

Listening now!

[Demonland 70,259]

Here is a direct link to the Audio.

[Lord Travis 10,458]

Luke Jackson in frame for pick 3. See him as a forward option. Don't see him as a full-time ruckman at AFL level. If we drafted him, would be playing with the forward group.

Interesting!

[CRomey 36]

Interesting that Taylor brought up Kemp himself for players at pick 8, sounded impressed by him.

[Dees247 140]

13 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Luke Jackson in frame for pick 3. See him as a forward option. Don't see him as a full-time ruckman at AFL level. If we drafted him, would be playing with the forward group.

Interesting!

I think he was meaning he would be a forward early in his career.

[Dees247 140]

When asked, he also said that Green was in the mix, and pointed out that we have bid on other academy players before, with the intention of actually taking them. He also mentioned Henry in passing. He hinted that there could be many potential trades of our picks.

[DeeSpencer 24,731]

Pick 3: down to about 3 players
Confirmed Luke Jackson is one of those, liked his improvement post national champs - has gone to see him play in person and play forward, and that he's always played in top junior games.
Hayden Young in the mix, likes his improvement from last year to this year

Wasn't asked much about Green but will bid on academy players as he sees fit
Tim Lamb (list manager) in ongoing talks about pick swaps
Will entertain swaps but aim is to be careful about trading down with the hope of player getting through, doesn't like the risk - if 0.5% risk you're not doing it (something along those lines)

Dealing for pick 8 based around a group of players that might be available as well as 30% of the top 30 next year being academy based
Hosts bring up Lachie Ash, Caleb Serong. JT doesn't really confirm too much about those 2, instead brings up Brodie Kemp and Deven Robertson
Gets asked about Weightman and talks positively about small forwards in the pool 

Aims to take 3-4 draft picks, has a list down to about 75
Likes the top 35 of the draft and then the next group is more pros and cons
Pro Bennell
Still confident in the list, assessing it based on 2018 not just 2019
Talks up the resilience and work ethic of the 2018 draft class - Sparrow, Jordon, Nietschke, Bedford, Dunkley etc
Keen for Spargo to bounce back and bought up Harry Petty - unsure in which role - as a talent for the future

Edited October 30, 2019 by DeeSpencer

[Lucifers Hero 38,982]

Summary of the interview (paraphrasing):

• Pick swap with North – looked at next year’s draft which is compromised: 30% of top 30 tied to someone else.  Look at the DVI but deal needs to advantage both clubs.
• We had a bit of interest in pick 3 during the trade period as it effectively becomes the first live pick.
• Pick 97 is expected to come in significantly.
• Lots of chats with other list managers re how draft/pick swap scenarios might play out.
• Had two days with list management and day one they went thru top 20 to 30 players.  On second day they looked at the next  25.
• We are looking to use 3 to 4 picks in the draft  (LH note: we only have 3 right now so maybe a split is on the cards).
• Re picks3:
  • Have 3 players in line for pick 3.  Luke Jackson is in that mix.  We’ve done a lot of work on him.  Don’t see him only as a ruckman and could start his career as a forward.
  • Hayden Young in the mix.  Had a bit to improve and has done that.  Excellent decision maker and execution.
  • At pick 3, you choose best available.  Don’t outsmart yourself!
  • Pick 3 won’t necessarily influence what happens at 8.
  • Tom Green in the mix for pick 3 (LH note: sounds like we rate him highly and would bid for him)
• Pick 8 -lots of good players around that pick:  Taylor mentioned Kemp, Robertson.  Interviewer mentioned Ash, Serong.  (LH note: my impression was Weightman not in the mix at that stage).
• Harley Bennell:  Shown resilience.  Long process to go.  (LH note:  Taylor didn’t sound excited but then he is quite laid back)
• On 2018:  Some things didn’t go our way.  Some mistakes were made.  Players are smarting from last year.  Proof will be in the pudding.
• SSP and mid-year draft dilutes the mature age draft pool.
• Petty is going to be a very good long term AFL player.
• Taylor excited about what Spargo and Fritsch can do.
• Players are in the club a fair bit and on their toes, as they should be.Feels eligibility for NGA and other academies could be scrutinised more.  

 

E&OE

Edited October 30, 2019 by Lucifer's Hero

[Dees247 140]

When asked about Weightman, and other good small forwards, he pointed out how rare they are. He also said that when we traded for 8, we didn't have a specific player in mind.

[dazzledavey36 52,738]

Interesting how he mentioned Robertson and Kemp around that pick 8 mark.

I honestly think without the bid of Green at the 3 its out of Jackson and Young.

[old55 22,779]

1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

 

• We are looking to use 3 to 4 picks in the draft  (LH note: we only have 3 right now so maybe a split is 

 

Thanks very much for the great summary LH.

I don't think it's correct that we only have 3 picks.  I think we have as many as we need to fill list vacancies up to 40 if we want to but they're at the end of the draft ie currently after 97.

[Lucifers Hero 38,982]

1 minute ago, Fifty-5 said:

Thanks very much for the great summary LH.

I don't think it's correct that we only have 3 picks.  I think we have as many as we need to fill list vacancies up to 40 if we want to but they're at the end of the draft ie currently after 97.

Quite right F5 - an oversight on my part.  Not many picks are used after #100.  Perhaps if #97 comes in to around #75 and the next one comes in again we may get the 4th pick in there.  Perhaps it depends on who is available late in the draft.  If no reasonable prospects we keep a spot open for the SSP (Harley Bennell) or a DFA (Harley Bennell) .

[JakovichScissorKick 771]

2 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

Luke Jackson in frame for pick 3. See him as a forward option. Don't see him as a full-time ruckman at AFL level. If we drafted him, would be playing with the forward group.

Interesting!

 

 

If he can become a KPF and hes as talented as people are saying, take him at pick 3.  You cant put a price on a superstar key forward.  We havent had one since Neitz.

Always take the talent.   We didnt when we took the robotic Weideman, and missed out on Charlie Curnow.

Edited October 30, 2019 by JakovichScissorKick

[Redleg 40,149]

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Interesting how he mentioned Robertson and Kemp around that pick 8 mark.

I honestly think without the bid of Green at the 3 its out of Jackson and Young.

I wonder if he is saying Jackson to force Freo to deal on 8 with a promise not to take Jackson.

[spirit of norm smith 15,143]

Interesting Luke Jackson discussion.  Very raw type still. Potential but footy skills not quite there.  It would be a huge punt at pick 3.  He has the basketball background and his athletic agility is appealing. 
 

[DeeSpencer 24,731]

If we like 35 players in the draft then 1 or 2 of those might get all the way through to pick 75 if we are very lucky but it makes some sense to me that we'd be looking for a pick in the 40's or around 50 to grab a slider.

 

[Demon Dynasty 17,092]

So in summary....

> Jackson - a likely prospect and seriously considering him but not with pick 3.  More interested in Young & Green (obviously expecting GWS to snaffle him though).

>  Pick 8 - we might be more willing to target a specific player 'type' but will all depend on what happens on the night and who is still available at that point (this might also include a late pick swap).

> Bennell - Have taken the first step in a number of steps required before deciding.

[olisik 4,060]

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Interesting how he mentioned Robertson and Kemp around that pick 8 mark.

I honestly think without the bid of Green at the 3 its out of Jackson and Young.

 

[billyblanks29 184]

Cannot believe we would take Luke Jackson at 3 or even 8. Cannot kick and barely knows the game. Would be going on raw athleticism but this won't help our side one bit next year.

[Davos 787]

4 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

So in summary....

> Jackson - a likely prospect and seriously considering him but not with pick 3.  More interested in Young & Green (obviously expecting GWS to snaffle him though).

>  Pick 8 - we might be more willing to target a specific player 'type' but will all depend on what happens on the night and who is still available at that point (this might also include a late pick swap).

> Bennell - Have taken the first step in a number of steps required before deciding.

Perhaps I misheard, but I reckon he said Jackson is right in the mix at pick 3. I think Twomey must have heard a few rumours, because he was very quick to ask the Jackson question.

[dazzledavey36 52,738]

5 minutes ago, olisik said:

 

Please don't quote me.

[ben russell 764]

Jackson at 3 would be farcical. Sounds like it will be Young which would be a great outcome.

[DeeZee 7,296]

It would be Young and Jackson if we could.

We could go there and celebrate with a pint or two.

Young at 3 and Jackson at 8 If he is still there, otherwise could be Kemp,Serong , Ash, or Weightman at 8