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MichaelHibberd2019Review.png 
Hibberd’s output was reduced in 2019 compared to his past standards due in part to the fact that he had to work in a defensive unit that was constantly undermanned through injury. The club will be looking for better things from the defender as he approaches his twilight years.
 
Date of Birth: 3 January, 1990
Height: 186cm
Weight: 90kg
 
Games MFC 2019: 19
Career Total: 142
 
Goals MFC 2019: 0
Career Total: 13
 
Votes 2019 Keith 'Bluey' Truscott Memorial Trophy:  107 votes
 

Hibbo is another player whose 2019 form I can’t work out. Was it as a result of the team’s poor form and the fact that the back line was injury riddled and never settled or is he in the twilight of his career and he just can’t cut the mustard anymore. I guess we’ll see. 

Pig definitely had a disappointing year. Let’s hope he can bounce back to that All-Australian form. 

 The revolving door backline certainly did not assist him. 

 

Cooked.

Will bow out Bernie Vince/Jordan Lewis style. Play a few games in the seniors then finish off at Casey.

Father time is tapping him on the shoulder, which is the main reason I find the Frost Trade rather strange going into 2020

if i am wrong i will eat the pie ? 


The gameplan adopted by Goodwin does not favour aging players no matter what their skill level may be.

The only positive is that the form drop off in 2019 was so precipitous that it may have been one of those aberrations we talk about.

Not sure we have the players to cover him and could explain why we kept Josh Wagner on the list.

PS: these reviews would be fascinating if the players performance could also be correlated with Joeboy's great weekly player commentary and of course our own Demonland rankings. For instance did Hibberd ever feature in our top 6 players in any match etc.

Edited by Diamond_Jim

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1 hour ago, Diamond_Jim said:

PS: these reviews would be fascinating if the players performance could also be correlated with Joeboy's great weekly player commentary and of course our own Demonland rankings. For instance did Hibberd ever feature in our top 6 players in any match etc.

You'd have to do a search of the individual weeks and the individual posts within to get the answer. We randomly take 3 posters votes each week for the official count.

Here is the list at the end of 2019. Hibberd came 16th but only amassed 24 votes. A player can get a maximum of 18 votes a round.

    PLAYER VOTES
1 GAWN Max.png Max Gawn 235
2 OLIVER Clayton.png Clayton Oliver 200
3 HARMES James.png James Harmes 139
4 SALEM Christian.png Christian Salem 135
5 BRAYSHAW Angus.png Angus Brayshaw 89
6 VINEY Jack.png Jack Viney 82
7 FRITSCH Bayley.png Bayley Fritsch 65
8 FROST Sam.png Sam Frost 61
9 PETRACCA Christian.png Christian Petracca 59
10 JONES Nathan.png Nathan Jones 49
11 MELKSHAM Jake.png Jake Melksham 47
12 MAY Steven.png Steven May 43
13 HORE Marty.png Marty Hore 42
14 HUNT Jayden.png Jayden Hunt 28
15 MCDONALD Tom.png Tom McDoanld 27
16 HIBBERD Michael.png Michael Hibberd 24
17 LEWIS Jordan.png Jordan Lewis 17
18 LOCKHART Jay.png Jay Lockhart 12
19 LEVER Jake.png Jake Lever 9
20 PETTY Harrison.png Harry Petty 7
21 BAKER Oskar.png Oskar Baker 5
21 PREUSS Braydon.png Braydon Preuss 5
23 WAGNER Josh.png Josh Wagner 4
24 KENNEDY HARRIS Jay.png Jay Kennedy-Harris 3
24 WAGNER Corey.png Corey Wagner 3
24 WEIDEMAN Sam.png Sam Weideman 3
27 NEAL BULLEN Alex.png Alex Neal-Bullen 2
28 DUNKLEY Kyle.png Kyle Dunkley 1
28 GARLETT Jeff.png Jeff Garlett 1
28 JETTA Neville.png Neville Jetta 1
28 MCDONALD Oscar.png Oscar McDonald 1
28 STRETCH Billy.png Billy Stretch 1

 

Many thanks Andy.

Over the years I have found that for a lesser team such as ours you get more insight from this forum than you could possibly hope for from either the mass media or the club itself.

Such a wonderful resource.

That vote tells me that on more than one occasion we thought him in our top 6 at least so the season was not a complete loss for Hibberd.

 
1 hour ago, Demonland said:

You'd have to do a search of the individual weeks and the individual posts within to get the answer. We randomly take 3 posters votes each week for the official count.

Here is the list at the end of 2019. Hibberd came 16th but only amassed 24 votes. A player can get a maximum of 18 votes a round.

    PLAYER VOTES
1 GAWN Max.png Max Gawn 235
2 OLIVER Clayton.png Clayton Oliver 200
3 HARMES James.png James Harmes 139
4 SALEM Christian.png Christian Salem 135
5 BRAYSHAW Angus.png Angus Brayshaw 89
6 VINEY Jack.png Jack Viney 82
7 FRITSCH Bayley.png Bayley Fritsch 65
8 FROST Sam.png Sam Frost 61
9 PETRACCA Christian.png Christian Petracca 59
10 JONES Nathan.png Nathan Jones 49
11 MELKSHAM Jake.png Jake Melksham 47
12 MAY Steven.png Steven May 43
13 HORE Marty.png Marty Hore 42
14 HUNT Jayden.png Jayden Hunt 28
15 MCDONALD Tom.png Tom McDoanld 27
16 HIBBERD Michael.png Michael Hibberd 24
17 LEWIS Jordan.png Jordan Lewis 17
18 LOCKHART Jay.png Jay Lockhart 12
19 LEVER Jake.png Jake Lever 9
20 PETTY Harrison.png Harry Petty 7
21 BAKER Oskar.png Oskar Baker 5
21 PREUSS Braydon.png Braydon Preuss 5
23 WAGNER Josh.png Josh Wagner 4
24 KENNEDY HARRIS Jay.png Jay Kennedy-Harris 3
24 WAGNER Corey.png Corey Wagner 3
24 WEIDEMAN Sam.png Sam Weideman 3
27 NEAL BULLEN Alex.png Alex Neal-Bullen 2
28 DUNKLEY Kyle.png Kyle Dunkley 1
28 GARLETT Jeff.png Jeff Garlett 1
28 JETTA Neville.png Neville Jetta 1
28 MCDONALD Oscar.png Oscar McDonald 1
28 STRETCH Billy.png Billy Stretch 1

 

Good to see Oscar got a vote


I think he is gone. Lost a couple of yards of pace. His efforts this year weren't from a lack of trying though.

We need a contingency plan for both Hibberd and Nev.

I like the bloke but he had an appalling season. Almost embarrassing to watch at times. Unfortunately has become a real plodder that throws his head around to demonstrate desperation.
I hope for his and the clubs sake he can turn it around but I highly doubt it.

15 hours ago, dee-tox said:

I think he is gone. Lost a couple of yards of pace. His efforts this year weren't from a lack of trying though.

We need a contingency plan for both Hibberd and Nev.

Yes dee-tox

The end for these two will come very quickly in the early part of next season

The club hopefully has planned for it by keeping C minus players like the Wagner. Who can replace Nev?? I cant see anybody yet>

He is finished, and has been arguably since late 2018. Unfortunately we have zero cover in that position, so he will continue to get games in 2020.

32 minutes ago, poita said:

He is finished, and has been arguably since late 2018. Unfortunately we have zero cover in that position, so he will continue to get games in 2020.

Hore??


On 10/13/2019 at 11:09 AM, Diamond_Jim said:

The gameplan adopted by Goodwin does not favour aging players no matter what their skill level may be.

The only positive is that the form drop off in 2019 was so precipitous that it may have been one of those aberrations we talk about.

Not sure we have the players to cover him and could explain why we kept Josh Wagner on the list.

PS: these reviews would be fascinating if the players performance could also be correlated with Joeboy's great weekly player commentary and of course our own Demonland rankings. For instance did Hibberd ever feature in our top 6 players in any match etc.

Rankings in the top 6 against all MFC players based on composite weighted averages....

5th - Rnd 7 vs the Hawks (3.475)

5th - Rnd 18 vs Meth Coke (4.475)

5th - Rnd 20 vs the Tigers (3.775)

Played a few lock down roles later in the season and obviously restricted and out for a while with the collarbone.

I think he has at least this year left to produce something similar to 2018 in terms of consistency (assuming a full pre season under his belt) but will also need to clean up the disposal side.

He is ranked No.2 out of all defenders for effective disposals (11.16) just behind Hore (11.46), but like Hore he is a turnover king ...ranked No.1 here from all defenders that will remain in 2020 (4.32 per match), Hore @ No.3 (4.15) and if we include Salem (albeit he isn't a dedicated defender and copping more heat around the contest probably sees a higher 'expected' rate) ... 2nd (4.20).

Out of interest Frosty was ranked 5th from all dedicated defenders on turnovers with 2.76 per match.

Edited by Rusty Nails

Realistically, it will be Jetta and Hibbo that are holding out Hore from that lockdown small defender position, which going into next year may see one of them out of the side. Yes he may have lost some horses out of the mustang engine, however no one can seriously question his effort or workrate. I don't think he'll ever be as good as that 2017 AA year, however hopefully he can adjust himself to being a bit slower and working more on his defensive side of the game and return to the consistency of 2018. He's one that I really don't want taking the ball out of D50, so turning him more into that Jetta role would be a much better idea imo. 

Gone from averaging 27 touches in his 2017 AA year to 17 in 2019.

A player going backwards at an alarming rate.

May see time at Casey if he doesn’t lift next year.

Edited by Bring-Back-Powell

On 10/13/2019 at 11:09 AM, Diamond_Jim said:

PS: these reviews would be fascinating if the players performance could also be correlated with Joeboy's great weekly player commentary and of course our own Demonland rankings. For instance did Hibberd ever feature in our top 6 players in any match etc.

Hibberd was outstanding against Hawthorn and then the following week against GC before he busted his shoulder.

Aside from that week and a half, I doubt Hibberd player 1 decent game.

On 10/13/2019 at 1:02 PM, Demonland said:

You'd have to do a search of the individual weeks and the individual posts within to get the answer. We randomly take 3 posters votes each week for the official count.

Here is the list at the end of 2019. Hibberd came 16th but only amassed 24 votes. A player can get a maximum of 18 votes a round.

    PLAYER VOTES
1 GAWN Max.png Max Gawn 235
2 OLIVER Clayton.png Clayton Oliver 200
3 HARMES James.png James Harmes 139
4 SALEM Christian.png Christian Salem 135
5 BRAYSHAW Angus.png Angus Brayshaw 89
6 VINEY Jack.png Jack Viney 82
7 FRITSCH Bayley.png Bayley Fritsch 65
8 FROST Sam.png Sam Frost 61
9 PETRACCA Christian.png Christian Petracca 59
10 JONES Nathan.png Nathan Jones 49
11 MELKSHAM Jake.png Jake Melksham 47
12 MAY Steven.png Steven May 43
13 HORE Marty.png Marty Hore 42
14 HUNT Jayden.png Jayden Hunt 28
15 MCDONALD Tom.png Tom McDoanld 27
16 HIBBERD Michael.png Michael Hibberd 24
17 LEWIS Jordan.png Jordan Lewis 17
18 LOCKHART Jay.png Jay Lockhart 12
19 LEVER Jake.png Jake Lever 9
20 PETTY Harrison.png Harry Petty 7
21 BAKER Oskar.png Oskar Baker 5
21 PREUSS Braydon.png Braydon Preuss 5
23 WAGNER Josh.png Josh Wagner 4
24 KENNEDY HARRIS Jay.png Jay Kennedy-Harris 3
24 WAGNER Corey.png Corey Wagner 3
24 WEIDEMAN Sam.png Sam Weideman 3
27 NEAL BULLEN Alex.png Alex Neal-Bullen 2
28 DUNKLEY Kyle.png Kyle Dunkley 1
28 GARLETT Jeff.png Jeff Garlett 1
28 JETTA Neville.png Neville Jetta 1
28 MCDONALD Oscar.png Oscar McDonald 1
28 STRETCH Billy.png Billy Stretch 1

 

With Frost ranked 8th, it makes the decision to offload him for peanuts even more idiotic (despite the Club’s spin).?


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