On 28/10/2019 at 08:35, adonski said:

Dees don’t even have to bid, Crows and Syd will

What I meant was that could we conceivably land Green and Kemp or is it merely a pipedream.

  On 28/10/2019 at 08:36, Watts the matter said:

I think so, they are stocked with inside midfielders and if he wasn't part of their academy, I doubt they would even be considering him with their pick. If he is at a similar level to Jacob Hopper he would be a poor pick for them. They would benefit from selecting players with more versatility. 

Does he make a good choice for us then? I don't know much about Green, but they naturally compare him to a current footballer, being Cripps. If he's as half as good, he and Clarry would be a very good duo, with Kemp in there for x factor and goals. I don't mind it.

And no, Osilik, I'm not asking you. Yes, inside mids, blah, blah, blah.

Someone with an open mind, please.

Edited October 28, 20195 yr by A F

  On 28/10/2019 at 08:38, A F said:

Does he make a good choice for us then? I don't know much about Green, but they naturally compare him to a current footballer, being Cripps. If he's as half as good, he and Clarry would be a very good duo, with Kemp in there for x factor and goals. I don't mind it.

And no, Osilik, I'm not asking you. Yes, inside mids, blah, blah, blah.

Someone with an open mind, please.

 

 

23/1/01
191cm/89kg
NSW-ACT/GWS Academy
Midfielder
September ranking: 5

The thing with Green is that his performances stack up. As one recruiter said recently, if Green was playing in the NAB League and not tied to an Academy, he would have been spoken about more as a No.1 pick contender. His performances for the Allies, leading his side in the midfield against highly rated stars each game, and his consistency for the GWS Academy team, adds weight to his efforts. A tall, big-bodied, strong and hard-headed midfielder who goes and wins the footy and gets it out. Likely to attract a very early bid for the Giants to match.

 

Based on the above, and if you were going to take best available, I think we’d have to seriously look at him. Personally I think Young might suit our needs more then Green, but if he has the potential to be the next Cripps, can you pass him up? From everything I’ve read though, GWS will match any bid on him, and his brother next year too.

GWS will match the bid for Green at any pick. They're trying to get earlier in the first round to get a player before the bid comes. If they can’t pull that off, they take him whenever the bid comes.

0% chance we get Green, even if we bid for him with pick 3.

  On 28/10/2019 at 08:38, A F said:

Does he make a good choice for us then? I don't know much about Green, but they naturally compare him to a current footballer, being Cripps. If he's as half as good, he and Clarry would be a very good duo, with Kemp in there for x factor and goals. I don't mind it.

And no, Osilik, I'm not asking you. Yes, inside mids, blah, blah, blah.

Someone with an open mind, please.

Is that you Simon? 2 more inside mids please

  On 28/10/2019 at 08:19, A F said:

Is there any chance that GWS don't match a big for Green and we end up with Green and Kemp?

GWS pick or match Green no matter what.  He will be a star and (like Hopper) the Giants again get gifted a star.  

  On 28/10/2019 at 10:21, spirit of norm smith said:

GWS pick or match Green no matter what.  He will be a star and (like Hopper) the Giants again get gifted a star.  

Hasn't won them a flag yet though SONS.

  On 28/10/2019 at 11:27, Demon Disciple said:

Hasn't won them a flag yet though SONS.

Coniglio and Ward back are two handy additions - A graders - add Jacobs and then add Green whose ready to go. Ouch. 

  On 28/10/2019 at 11:42, spirit of norm smith said:

Coniglio and Ward back are two handy additions - A graders - add Jacobs and then add Green whose ready to go. Ouch. 

I reckon it will take GWS at least a year to recover from this years capitulation in the GF, as we know too well. 

  On 28/10/2019 at 21:05, PaulRB said:

I reckon it will take GWS at least a year to recover from this years capitulation in the GF, as we know too well. 

Hopefully longer RB

1- Suns Rowell

2- Suns Anderson 

3- Dees nominate Tom Green

Giants match. Lose pick 6

4- Dees Hayden Young

5- Crows Dylan Stephens

6- Swans Sam Flanders

7- Freo Luke Jackson 

8- Dees Brodie Kemp

9- Blues Caleb Serong

 10- Freo Deven Robertson 

Lachlan Ash would be the one who may slide but would be a bargain pick at 11+

Cal Twomey had us with young at 3 and weightman at 8!  Agree with Young, don’t think so re Weightman.  Would take Sarong by a mile.

  On 14/11/2019 at 04:18, buck_nekkid said:

Cal Twomey had us with young at 3 and weightman at 8!  Agree with Young, don’t think so re Weightman.  Would take Sarong by a mile.

Thanks Buck.  Here's the podcast if anyone's interested (apologies if posted already in this thread)... 

https://podcasts.google.com/?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly9yc3Mud2hvb3Noa2FhLmNvbS9yc3MvcG9kY2FzdC9pZC80MDg3&episode=NTU2M2M2ZDYtNTBhMC00NzdlLWJmYzktM2Y3NDQ1ODI3NzQ3

Serong is certainly right up there in terms of inside mids (pushes forward at times as well).  Is there a place for another on our list i wonder?

Edited November 14, 20195 yr by Rusty Nails

It was an interesting listen. They had us bid on Henry at 8, then take Weightmann after a matched bid. I'd be happy bidding on Henry at 8, but I'd prefer Kemp, Stephens, Serong or Robertson at 8. 8 is too early for a Weightmann or Pickett type. Henry is in a different class to the other small forwards and could well wind up a midfielder/forward hybrid in the Michael Walters mould.

I just hope we keep both pick 3 and 8 and then we can land Young and one of Kemp/Stephens/Serong. It'd be a great draft for us if we did!

  On 14/11/2019 at 04:18, buck_nekkid said:

Cal Twomey had us with young at 3 and weightman at 8!  Agree with Young, don’t think so re Weightman.  Would take Sarong by a mile.

Twomey is a poor man's Matt Burgan. When Matt vacated the AFL drafting gig for a stint at the Dees, the AFL handed the reigns to the work experience boy.

  On 14/11/2019 at 04:18, buck_nekkid said:

Cal Twomey had us with young at 3 and weightman at 8!  Agree with Young, don’t think so re Weightman.  Would take Sarong by a mile.

Pickett  >  Weightman

  On 14/11/2019 at 05:29, Demon Disciple said:

Twomey is a poor man's Matt Burgan. When Matt vacated the AFL drafting gig for a stint at the Dees, the AFL handed the reigns to the work experience boy.

Very harsh. Cal is only getting better with more experience and has produced some very good stuff this draft period. How much did Burgo even do on the draft? His Burgatron was fantastic reporting but clubs were far more open back then and there wasn't academies and live trading to work through. Phantom drafts were possible, now they are just about impossible.

Twomey is across all the names and has done a good job sniffing out some very plausible picks and trade rumours. 

The thing the draft coverage badly misses is Emma Quayle at the Age and Brett Anderson at SEN/Inside footy. 

  On 14/11/2019 at 05:29, Demon Disciple said:

Twomey is a poor man's Matt Burgan. When Matt vacated the AFL drafting gig for a stint at the Dees, the AFL handed the reigns to the work experience boy.

Does the mighty Burgatron still work for the  club?  Havent seen him on the website for a while

  On 14/11/2019 at 05:59, JakovichScissorKick said:

Does the mighty Burgatron still work for the  club?  Havent seen him on the website for a while

No. Handed over the reigns two years back now. Now it’s a mixture of people, including players, doing the media work and podcast.

  On 14/11/2019 at 05:51, DeeSpencer said:

Very harsh. Cal is only getting better with more experience and has produced some very good stuff this draft period. How much did Burgo even do on the draft? His Burgatron was fantastic reporting but clubs were far more open back then and there wasn't academies and live trading to work through. Phantom drafts were possible, now they are just about impossible.

Twomey is across all the names and has done a good job sniffing out some very plausible picks and trade rumours. 

The thing the draft coverage badly misses is Emma Quayle at the Age and Brett Anderson at SEN/Inside footy. 

Spot on.

Cal has been confident that we are keen on Weightman for a while now, wonder why he didn’t ask Taylor about him in his interview?! Off limits maybe?

  On 14/11/2019 at 05:51, DeeSpencer said:

The thing the draft coverage badly misses is Emma Quayle at the Age and Brett Anderson at SEN/Inside footy. 

Agree that Emma Quayle is sorely missed. I'm not much of a Kevin Sheehan fan either.

Edited November 14, 20195 yr by Demon Disciple

  On 14/11/2019 at 05:51, JakovichScissorKick said:

Pickett  >  Weightman

Serong > Pickett > Weightman 

& just to put their list in context, this list was compiled as 'needs base' as opposed to where they actually think the boys will fall.

  On 14/11/2019 at 07:06, Demons11 said:

Serong > Pickett > Weightman 

Kemp > Serong > Pickett > Weightman