10 minutes ago, olisik said:

Don’t forget Gold Coast PP and any others the AFL decide to dish out as well.

Agree.

I was being conservative. Potentially it could be more like 10, which would push our pick to 25 which is even worse!

I would only switch 3 to 6 if there is a player involved and it's overs in our favour. Otherwise we tell GWS to get stuffed and cough up pick 6 for Green.

9 minutes ago, Collar-Jazz-Knee said:

Agree.

I was being conservative. Potentially it could be more like 10, which would push our pick to 25 which is even worse!

I would only switch 3 to 6 if there is a player involved and it's overs in our favour. Otherwise we tell GWS to get stuffed and cough up pick 6 for Green.

We haven't got 6, we only get it if we do a deal with GWS.

2 minutes ago, Redleg said:

We haven't got 6, we only get it if we do a deal with GWS.

I think CJK is saying that GWS can cough up their pick 6 if they want to get Green.

as long as we finish up with two picks in the top 10 of this draft then i'll all for whatever we're about to do

Keep what we have. We have done well. Two top tens and promote Dunkley with pick 100 or whatever. Or (and I think he could be a dodgy pick but for nothing we might do it) for Murray

29 minutes ago, Collar-Jazz-Knee said:

Agree.

I was being conservative. Potentially it could be more like 10, which would push our pick to 25 which is even worse!

I would only switch 3 to 6 if there is a player involved and it's overs in our favour. Otherwise we tell GWS to get stuffed and cough up pick 6 for Green.

Exactly, why help out GWS this year on the basis of getting a somewhat lowly first round pick next year?

10 minutes ago, Uncle Fester said:

Keep what we have. We have done well. Two top tens and promote Dunkley with pick 100 or whatever. Or (and I think he could be a dodgy pick but for nothing we might do it) for Murray

I'd rather promote Jay Lockhart, Fes. He was good last year with a limited AFL pre-season.

Any deal with the Giants as it stands gifts them 2 top 5 picks for us getting back pick 6 and some change. Frankly I believe there's nothing the Giants can offer that will be equal to the 2 players they will get which means on theory we should be able to push them to a trade that looks ridiculous on the surface, but it's actually perfectly reasonable to both clubs.

My theory (it's kinda out there) is take pick 3 off the table let them deal with Adelaide to get pick 4, this at least gets them infront of pick 5. Then we decide which 2 players we like (Assuming it's Serong and Young). Then on draft night when it comes to pick 3 call the GWS camp and say 'we are going to bid on Green, would you like to give us Pick 4 and a future first?' They do that, then the Giants can take whoever they want likely take one of Serong/Young, match our bid for Green then we take whichever of the 2 players is left. 

Draft order would end up being something like:

Rowell (GC), Anderson (GC), Serong (GWS), Green(GWS), Young (Melb), Essendon, Adelaide, Fremantle, Weightman (Melb)

We get both players we want and get back into the 1st round next year

I feel like I'm in the minority here but I'd definitely go from pick 3 to 6 to pick up an early 20s pick next year. There's not much difference in quality within the top 10 this year, and picks in the 20s are actually reasonably valuable. In an average year about 3 of the 10 players selected in the 20s turn into a good player.

22 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

I'd rather promote Jay Lockhart, Fes. He was good last year with a limited AFL pre-season.

I agree. I was just throwing up possibilities. But some odd late deals get done every year

Would you do pick 26 (North) & future 1st (GWS), for 3?

1 hour ago, hardtack said:

I think CJK is saying that GWS can cough up their pick 6 if they want to get Green.

Then why would we use 6 against them, which is what he suggested?

4 minutes ago, Dees247 said:

Would you do pick 26 (North) & future 1st (GWS), for 3?

With pick 26 potentially coming for Bonar (GWS)

Edited October 15, 20196 yr by Dees247

Just now, Dees247 said:

 

26 for Bonar (GWS)

NO.

2 minutes ago, Redleg said:

NO.

Yeah I agree ?

11 minutes ago, Dees247 said:

Would you do pick 26 (North) & future 1st (GWS), for 3?

Absolutely not.

I'm still not sold on what they say we might get for 3, which is Pick 6 and a future first rounder which may end up being a future second rounder after academy selections.

I’ve no interest in any of GWS’s picks in next year’s draft.  If they want to move up to pick 3, then I’d be wanting 6 and a player.  Unfortunately, I can’t see a player being traded this late in the game without being vetted.

 

perhaps with 8 we're looking to bid on henry and spoil freo's ability to use later picks to get him?

what could be happening:

• 3 traded for 6 and gw$ 2020 future first rounder plus...future second? future third?
• 8 and gw$ future first traded for 10 (which freo will receive in the hill-to-aints trade) and freo's future first and future second?

we'd end up with 6 and 10 this year plus freo's 2020 future first and second round picks

Edited October 15, 20196 yr by whatwhatsaywhat

9 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

  Unfortunately, I can’t see a player being traded this late in the game without being vetted.

 

Are we trading for a runner in the Cup?

14 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Are we trading for a runner in the Cup?

Outside pace.

 

 

29 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Absolutely not.

I'm still not sold on what they say we might get for 3, which is Pick 6 and a future first rounder which may end up being a future second rounder after academy selections.

I agree, but suspect we may do the deal. We always say we do the trade period as a whole, not on individual trades.

So apparently we knocked back the offer of pick 6 and GWS 2020 1st rounder.

1 hour ago, Dees247 said:

Would you do pick 26 (North) & future 1st (GWS), for 3?

6, 26 and GWS future 1st for 3

 

YES

1 minute ago, Collar-Jazz-Knee said:

So apparently we knocked back the offer of pick 6 and GWS 2020 1st rounder.

Surely a player has to be involved?

2 minutes ago, Collar-Jazz-Knee said:

So apparently we knocked back the offer of pick 6 and GWS 2020 1st rounder.

Yeah, heard that too. We have up until draft night (unless a player is included) anyway, so seems like a good negotiation tactic at this stage.