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Today's Age is reporting that Joe Daniher has been offered and is likely to accept a three year contract from the Bomber at $2M for three years.

Given what Bulldogs paid for Boyd and the upcoming 20% increase in the salary cap this seems on the light side to me.

Perhaps as the article suggests there is a loyalty factor:

"Daniher's commitment to Essendon is yet another example of the club's ability to keep its most talented players. 

Despite an acrimonious last five years as a result of the long-running supplements saga, the Bombers managed to hold on to the vast majority of their stars, including key position men Cale Hooker and Michael Hurley, both of whom had significant contracts thrown at them by rival clubs. 

With rumours of Essendon's interest in Martin swirling late last week, coach John Worsfold moved to reassure members what was at the front of the club's mind. 

"My keenness is on Joe Daniher. He's the No.1 priority, and we're working really hard to get Joey signed," Worsfold said on Friday. 

"I'm not too interested in worrying about anyone else until we get Joey locked away, as well as Zaka and Darcy Parish as well." 

 

Not suggesting we should make a play but perhaps it is a sign the Forwards are not the mega stars they once were.

Dustin Martin and Fyfe at around $1.5M a year are the new benchmark.

Makes you wonder about what the likes of Petracca and Oliver may command next year if they really hit their straps.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/essendon-set-to-resign-joe-daniher-on-threeyear-2-million-contract-20170530-gwglth.html

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    Daniher has every right to feel dudded by that offer.

    It's worth keeping in mind that in Essendon's case there was the $4.5m in compensation payments to banned players which was counted by the AFL as falling outside of the salary cap. So players were being financially compensated and then entering into separate (in principle) contract renegotiations. New contract amounts were not allowed to fall under the market rate, but it would be naive to think that the settlements paid to players did not factor at all into those renegotiations. "Loyalty" may well have been a factor there too.

    Essendon's ability to retain so many of its returning players and have enough left in the kitty to chase Dustin Martin is enough to raise an eyebrow. Meanwhile Daniher, who was not one of the dozen banned players and therefore has received no additional compensation, seemingly has to accept unders. That doesn't pass the fairness test.

    However they have chosen to sort this mess out, Daniher shouldn't be the one getting the short end of the stick.

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    The back stabbing could be palpable....not a good atmosphere at all.

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    1 hour ago, Diamond_Jim said:

    Today's Age is reporting that Joe Daniher has been offered and is likely to accept a three year contract from the Bomber at $2M for three years.

    Given what Bulldogs paid for Boyd and the upcoming 20% increase in the salary cap this seems on the light side to me.

    Perhaps as the article suggests there is a loyalty factor:

    "Daniher's commitment to Essendon is yet another example of the club's ability to keep its most talented players. 

    Despite an acrimonious last five years as a result of the long-running supplements saga, the Bombers managed to hold on to the vast majority of their stars, including key position men Cale Hooker and Michael Hurley, both of whom had significant contracts thrown at them by rival clubs. 

    With rumours of Essendon's interest in Martin swirling late last week, coach John Worsfold moved to reassure members what was at the front of the club's mind. 

    "My keenness is on Joe Daniher. He's the No.1 priority, and we're working really hard to get Joey signed," Worsfold said on Friday. 

    "I'm not too interested in worrying about anyone else until we get Joey locked away, as well as Zaka and Darcy Parish as well." 

     

    Not suggesting we should make a play but perhaps it is a sign the Forwards are not the mega stars they once were.

    Dustin Martin and Fyfe at around $1.5M a year are the new benchmark.

    Makes you wonder about what the likes of Petracca and Oliver may command next year if they really hit their straps.

    http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/essendon-set-to-resign-joe-daniher-on-threeyear-2-million-contract-20170530-gwglth.html

    If people believe that number they believe in the tooth fairy.

    How about:

    EFC: "joe, we're sorry about the drug saga so here's what we'll do. We'll pay you $2m as a tax-free ex-gratia payment on the basis that you sign a new contract when it falls due at $2m for 3 years?"

    JD: "err OK"

    This scumbag club led the way in salary cap rorts and ATO evasion*. They rorted the cap from 91-96 when they won a flag*. They kept the 1993 flag of course.

     

    *In 1996, Essendon were fined a record $638,250 ($250,000 in back tax and penalties, $112,000 for draft tampering and $276,250 for breaching the salary cap regulations), forfeited their first, second and third round picks in the National Draft and were excluded from the 1997 rookie and pre-season drafts after a joint Australian Tax Office and AFL investigation found that they had committed serious and systematic breaches of the salary cap regulations totalling $514,500 between 1991 and 1996, including $110,000 in 1993 when Essendon won the premiership

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    Easy solution.

     

    Give him 20 shots at goal from 35 out on a 45 degree angle.  Every goal he kicks, he gets $100k per year on his contract.

     

    Don't think they will be up for 2 mill a year.

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    1 hour ago, jnrmac said:

    If people believe that number they believe in the tooth fairy.

    How about:

    EFC: "joe, we're sorry about the drug saga so here's what we'll do. We'll pay you $2m as a tax-free ex-gratia payment on the basis that you sign a new contract when it falls due at $2m for 3 years?"

    JD: "err OK"

    This scumbag club led the way in salary cap rorts and ATO evasion*. They rorted the cap from 91-96 when they won a flag*. They kept the 1993 flag of course.

     

    *In 1996, Essendon were fined a record $638,250 ($250,000 in back tax and penalties, $112,000 for draft tampering and $276,250 for breaching the salary cap regulations), forfeited their first, second and third round picks in the National Draft and were excluded from the 1997 rookie and pre-season drafts after a joint Australian Tax Office and AFL investigation found that they had committed serious and systematic breaches of the salary cap regulations totalling $514,500 between 1991 and 1996, including $110,000 in 1993 when Essendon won the premiership

    This is exactly what I was thinking.

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    Essendrug do as they please. 

    The Club grew from Masonary roots, which i have no doubt still, is why they continue to do as they please. 

    The AFL have never really objected. 

    Such a shame Demetriou opened his trap to them 36 hours before WADA went in, but then Demetriou has never been squeaky clean either. 

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    2 hours ago, P-man said:

    Daniher has every right to feel dudded by that offer.

    It's worth keeping in mind that in Essendon's case there was the $4.5m in compensation payments to banned players which was counted by the AFL as falling outside of the salary cap. So players were being financially compensated and then entering into separate (in principle) contract renegotiations. New contract amounts were not allowed to fall under the market rate, but it would be naive to think that the settlements paid to players did not factor at all into those renegotiations. "Loyalty" may well have been a factor there too.

    Essendon's ability to retain so many of its returning players and have enough left in the kitty to chase Dustin Martin is enough to raise an eyebrow. Meanwhile Daniher, who was not one of the dozen banned players and therefore has received no additional compensation, seemingly has to accept unders. That doesn't pass the fairness test.

    However they have chosen to sort this mess out, Daniher shouldn't be the one getting the short end of the stick.

     

    2 hours ago, jnrmac said:

    If people believe that number they believe in the tooth fairy.

    How about:

    EFC: "joe, we're sorry about the drug saga so here's what we'll do. We'll pay you $2m as a tax-free ex-gratia payment on the basis that you sign a new contract when it falls due at $2m for 3 years?"

    JD: "err OK"

    This scumbag club led the way in salary cap rorts and ATO evasion*. They rorted the cap from 91-96 when they won a flag*. They kept the 1993 flag of course.

     

    *In 1996, Essendon were fined a record $638,250 ($250,000 in back tax and penalties, $112,000 for draft tampering and $276,250 for breaching the salary cap regulations), forfeited their first, second and third round picks in the National Draft and were excluded from the 1997 rookie and pre-season drafts after a joint Australian Tax Office and AFL investigation found that they had committed serious and systematic breaches of the salary cap regulations totalling $514,500 between 1991 and 1996, including $110,000 in 1993 when Essendon won the premiership

    I have been wondering about this for a long time - it seems blindingly obvious and I am amazed that it hasn't raised a murmur amongst the footy journos. Essentially, the Bombers must have offered huge compo packages, otherwise there would have been a class action through the courts.

    If you cast your mind back to last year, the rumours were that Dyson Heppell (and his family) was furious with the way he had been treated by Essendon and was almost certainly going to leave. Same, I think, with Michael Hurley. Nek minnit, they re-sign and are as committed as ever to the Bombers. 

    It seems to me that they have been able to rort the system by paying out large chunks of contracts as compensation. I take it that the AFL will be sweeping this under the carpet?

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    9 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    Essendrug do as they please. 

    The Club grew from Masonary roots, which i have no doubt still, is why they continue to do as they please. 

    The AFL have never really objected. 

    Such a shame Demetriou opened his trap to them 36 hours before WADA went in, but then Demetriou has never been squeaky clean either. 

    Is that similar to missionary?

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    1 minute ago, Biffen said:

    Is that similar to missionary?

    Possibly. I am sure quite a few Masons worked in the Horizontal position to gain their wealth

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    8 minutes ago, 3183 Dee said:

     

    I have been wondering about this for a long time - it seems blindingly obvious and I am amazed that it hasn't raised a murmur amongst the footy journos. Essentially, the Bombers must have offered huge compo packages, otherwise there would have been a class action through the courts.

    If you cast your mind back to last year, the rumours were that Dyson Heppell (and his family) was furious with the way he had been treated by Essendon and was almost certainly going to leave. Same, I think, with Michael Hurley. Nek minnit, they re-sign and are as committed as ever to the Bombers. 

    It seems to me that they have been able to rort the system by paying out large chunks of contracts as compensation. I take it that the AFL will be sweeping this under the carpet?

    And people wonder why the Seating for ANZAC day doubled in price for certain seats

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    who cares.. he was never gonna leave the club. he's a bomber. its like trying to work out if jack viney would leave to play for another team.. not gonna happen.

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    1 hour ago, 3183 Dee said:

    It seems to me that they have been able to rort the system by paying out large chunks of contracts as compensation. I take it that the AFL will be sweeping this under the carpet?

    I think this is covered under the "so brave" clause in the secret agreement between the AFL & EFC. (Probably Masonic.)

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    1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    Essendrug do as they please. 

    The Club grew from Masonary roots, which i have no doubt still, is why they continue to do as they please. 

    The AFL have never really objected. 

    Such a shame Demetriou opened his trap to them 36 hours before WADA went in, but then Demetriou has never been squeaky clean either. 

    I might be missing something but what has that got to do with Daniher's contract?

    It all seems above board.

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    3 minutes ago, Luther said:

    I might be missing something but what has that got to do with Daniher's contract?

    It all seems above board.

    Keeping all their players over the last 5 years. Large bags of $$$ must have been passed around to keep the peace. 

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    2 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    Keeping all their players over the last 5 years. Large bags of $$$ must have been passed around to keep the peace. 

    They've lost a lot of players over the last 5 years...

    Hibberd, Melksham, Ryder, Carlisle etc.

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    2 minutes ago, Luther said:

    They've lost a lot of players over the last 5 years...

    Hibberd, Melksham, Ryder, Carlisle etc.

    Yes, but they should have lost all of them. 

    They kept no Records of anything. Prison terms should have been handed down

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    2 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    Possibly. I am sure quite a few Masons worked in the Horizontal position to gain their wealth

    As i used to say when i was digging in the cemetery, "the horizontal is a great leveller"

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    54 minutes ago, willmoy said:

    As i used to say when i was digging in the cemetery, "the horizontal is a great leveller"

    Hahaha yes!

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    1 hour ago, willmoy said:

    As i used to say when i was digging in the cemetery, "the horizontal is a great leveller"

    Worked flat out !

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    Daniher is not going to leave. Essendon are not going to rort the salary cap.

    Move along.

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    Not sure joe is any chance to leave Essendon even if they offered him $40.00 and a jolly good flogging with bitters every year 

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    1 hour ago, Abe said:

    Not sure joe is any chance to leave Essendon even if they offered him $40.00 and a jolly good flogging with bitters every year 

    He'd sign on for 15 years in that case

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