“Players may not have come back with the right attitude and the sense that finals was just going to roll around again."

“They’ve been dealt a harsh lesson this year and I wouldn’t be surprised if the attitude was changed coming back to the pre-season.”

Lewis questions Demons attitude in year from hell

Some truth starting to leak out of the MFC now...

What a Suprise. I think the Coach felt the same way too. 

Practise Match form is important 

Ffs our culture is still poor with poor leadership!

Id love to say im surprised but sadly Im not.

A long overdue blast.

Big question though is will the remaining players take heed, take pride, and take collective and individual responsibility?  Each and every one. 

Speaks Volumes of our 2 Captains. They should just walk now. 

Nobody took any notice of what Max said at the B&F

”You cannot win the Flag in the off Season, but you can certainly lose it...”

Of Course we plummeted 

Genuinely don’t understand. The club hasn’t won flag in 55 years. How is it possible that this playing group wasn’t hungry for success. Only MFC...

3 minutes ago, bringbackthebiff said:

Genuinely don’t understand. The club hasn’t won flag in 55 years. How is it possible that this playing group wasn’t hungry for success. Only MFC...

Amazing isn’t it

this should have been howled down and sorted in half an hour after Christmas. But no it festered all year. 

We must keep recruiting leadership, what Lewis has said confirms that

15 minutes ago, bringbackthebiff said:

Genuinely don’t understand. The club hasn’t won flag in 55 years. How is it possible that this playing group wasn’t hungry for success. Only MFC...

Either do the other 50k members! Boils down to culture & leadership. When you consider this group failed so poorly in the last game of 2017 to miss finals. Who drives the standards  within the group? Who maintains the culture? Are the leaders/captains not responsible to pick up on the attitudes etc??? 

Edited August 21, 20195 yr by Demonsone

12 minutes ago, bringbackthebiff said:

Genuinely don’t understand. The club hasn’t won flag in 55 years. How is it possible that this playing group wasn’t hungry for success. Only MFC...

For [censored] sake - I don't get how supporters expect players to train or play harder because we haven't been successful for 55 years. Players want to play well, be part of a successful team and earn accolades. What happened before they were born might mean something to supporters but is not relevent nor should it be to the players. 

2 minutes ago, chookrat said:

For [censored] sake - I don't get how supporters expect players to train or play harder because we haven't been successful for 55 years. Players want to play well, be part of a successful team and earn accolades. What happened before they were born might mean something to supporters but is not relevent nor should it be to the players. 

Fair point, but how many times did we hear them say 'this will burn in our guts' or 'this will drive us harder' over the last 2 years? Clearly just saying what they thought people wanted to hear.

Edited August 21, 20195 yr by Lord Nev

41 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

What a Suprise. I think the Coach felt the same way too. 

Practise Match form is important 

I think Goody has covered for the playing group in press conferences and the media. The players will learn from this year and with Burgess on board I'd expect they will come back fit and hungry. 

Lewy already diving headfirst into his media career.

33 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Speaks Volumes of our 2 Captains. They should just walk now. 

Nobody took any notice of what Max said at the B&F

”You cannot win the Flag in the off Season, but you can certainly lose it...”

Of Course we plummeted 

yep and he said he is sick of finishing every year badly since hes been at the club. and yet it happens yet again.

1 minute ago, Lord Nev said:

Fair point, but how many time did we hear them say 'this will burn in our guts' or 'this will drive us harder' over the last 2 years? Clearly just saying what they thought people wanted to hear.

Good point Lord Nev, I don't think the players really understand how much every moment counts. I'm optimistix that this year will be a massive wakeup call, its now a matter of how far back we have fallen and need to catchup. 

Big Max at the start of pre season should stand up in front of the group and tell them that he is in the prime of his career and does not want to waste another year with players who are not serious.  He deserves to be Captain and he will be totally wasted with his talent if this group does not take their careers to a new level.  

5 minutes ago, chookrat said:

For [censored] sake - I don't get how supporters expect players to train or play harder because we haven't been successful for 55 years. Players want to play well, be part of a successful team and earn accolades. What happened before they were born might mean something to supporters but is not relevent nor should it be to the players. 

it should absolutely be relevant. they are wearing the jumper and our history is so important. We should be the most hungry club in the AFL, and we are the least. stunning level of sh1tness.

11 minutes ago, chookrat said:

I think Goody has covered for the playing group in press conferences and the media. The players will learn from this year and with Burgess on board I'd expect they will come back fit and hungry. 

But why cover? Goody should have been ropable if such an attitude  existed. 

We got smashed in a Prelim, it wasn’t as if we were even close. 

Burgess must drive them harder than anything they have had before, from Day 1. 

Edited August 21, 20195 yr by Sir Why You Little

Many are happy being AFL players.

I would love to know if Lewis actually said anything to the playing group in the pre season or has he just saved some home truths for the way out. 

We really are just an amateur club in a professional organisation. 

10 minutes ago, chookrat said:

For [censored] sake - I don't get how supporters expect players to train or play harder because we haven't been successful for 55 years. Players want to play well, be part of a successful team and earn accolades. What happened before they were born might mean something to supporters but is not relevent nor should it be to the players. 

You are making excuses for the players Chook

They haven’t been hungry all year. 

Why they are not the Hungriest bunch of kids in the AFL, i will never understand. 

Fact is this Club hasn’t won a Cup in 55 years and we are still eons away

1 minute ago, trout said:

I would love to know if Lewis actually said anything to the playing group in the pre season or has he just saved some home truths for the way out. 

Agreed. Its easy now isnt it. he was a PART of the playing group and a senior respected figure. Anyway, its all too late now. As one of the few positives to find,  If they dont come back back angry and hungry after their experience this year then nothing will motivate them. 

20 minutes ago, chookrat said:

For [censored] sake - I don't get how supporters expect players to train or play harder because we haven't been successful for 55 years. Players want to play well, be part of a successful team and earn accolades. What happened before they were born might mean something to supporters but is not relevent nor should it be to the players. 

This same group played like spuds in the last game of 2017, laid  zero tackles & missed playing finals. Is 2017 relevant??? Stop making excuses for them! Lewis came 3rd B&F in 2017 after winning 4 flags. Who’s the one with the hunger & culture issue???

Edited August 21, 20195 yr by Demonsone

4 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

You are making excuses for the players Chook

They haven’t been hungry all year. 

Why they are not the Hungriest bunch of kids in the AFL, i will never understand. 

Fact is this Club hasn’t won a Cup in 55 years and we are still eons away

SWYL don't get me wrong I think the players let themselves, the team and supporters down badly. The different opinion I have is that making the prelim last year should have provided the motivation to do everything to win prelim and GF this year. I don't see 55 years without a flag as motivation, at all, for the playing group. Footy players have short careers that can be glorious (Jordon Lewis) or forgettable and they need to approach all aspects of the game with this mindset.