Demons Grand Plan for Yarra Park Training HQ

[old dee 23,799]

1 minute ago, Rusty Nails said:

Would not surprise me if Sid got the nod before us MR 

You can put the house on that one RN.

[DV8 2,271]

1 hour ago, old dee said:

Re Vic Park my understanding is that Yarra council have no interest in using Vic Park for anything other than local use. And why would the Pies want to go back there they have effectively replaced us in the central Melbourne area. They have a fabulous area now in the old  Olympic area and more Government money coming. Every time I go by there I mentally weep. The MFC should be in there however we blew it so now we take the left overs what they are in the future who knows, but we need to do something very soon.

Our own conservativeness,  has been stifling us for decades.

It's like we're being choked...  by that  'Mcc' necktie,  they have in the dresser.

[Lucifers Hero 39,966]

15 minutes ago, old dee said:

So where LH?

I have no idea od. 

For me this is one of the most depressing threads on this board as every Vic club is getting tens of millions for their existing grounds and we are homeless.

I usually don't read this thread but was lured back by the orange 'Hot!' flag - thought something good may have happened for us.  Alas not, just another club getting more millions. 

Edited May 9, 2019 by Lucifer's Hero

[Sorry kids 635]

Maybe the Club needs to rethink the Melbourne in the MFC. Does it refer to the CBD and inner area around the G or the broader metropolitan area. Time to think for the present but also one or two generations ahead. Thhe hawks got out of hawthorn and the rest was history. And now they have the foresight to be moving from Waverly.

[old dee 23,799]

12 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

I have no idea od. 

For me this is one of the most depressing threads on this board as every Vic club is getting tens of millions for their existing grounds and we are homeless.

I usually don't read this thread but was lured back by the orange 'Hot!' flag - thought something good may have happened for us.  Alas not, just another club getting more millions. 

Yes LH and it has all been said before. Let's hope there is something to talk about before 2019 comes to a close.

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

23 minutes ago, old dee said:

You can put the house on that one RN.

With so many betting houses out there someone just might take me on OD 

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

We had our chance. 

“Diamond” Joe Gutnick was the one who knocked back the Lexus Centre 

Said we couldn’t afford it. I don’t think Joe ever understood Good Debt. 

Absolute Fool put us back 20-30 years

Any ideas SW?  Wait for the Hawks to vacate Waverley and refurb in 2022?  Casey development?  Need funding help for either etc.

Continue with the present mish mash and no genuine club/home?

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

3 hours ago, old dee said:

A much higher chance of success MR.

And apologies OD i seriously only just saw that ?

[george_on_the_outer 7,611]

I know the Board has been working on a plan for a long, long time.  Unless we can convince Melbourne Victory  to move out of AAMI, thereby relinquishing their soccer pitch area outside, where we could build something long-term ( and Large), there are virtually no other options in inner Melbourne.

The option ( and I am sure it has been examined) where I think the best chance is at Caulfield racecourse:

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/inner-south/caulfield-racecourse-liberals-pledge-425-million-to-ovals-plan/news-story/50702bf11aac868ccf43af8dcf04fa63

Unfortunately the MFC hasn't been mentioned in any articles about this redevelopment, but the land is sure there.....

[binman 43,131]

2 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

I know the Board has been working on a plan for a long, long time.  Unless we can convince Melbourne Victory  to move out of AAMI, thereby relinquishing their soccer pitch area outside, where we could build something long-term ( and Large), there are virtually no other options in inner Melbourne.

The option ( and I am sure it has been examined) where I think the best chance is at Caulfield racecourse:

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/inner-south/caulfield-racecourse-liberals-pledge-425-million-to-ovals-plan/news-story/50702bf11aac868ccf43af8dcf04fa63

Unfortunately the MFC hasn't been mentioned in any articles about this redevelopment, but the land is sure there.....

There has been talk also of a purpose built ground in the area under bolte bridge. That mightvattractvsome government dollars as they need community infrastructure down there to service people who live in the docklands and the thousands that will be living in the big  new development between North Melb train station and Arden street.

The Fisherman's bend development might also represent an opprtunity.

[Diamond_Jim 12,596]

5 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

I know the Board has been working on a plan for a long, long time.  Unless we can convince Melbourne Victory  to move out of AAMI, thereby relinquishing their soccer pitch area outside, where we could build something long-term ( and Large), there are virtually no other options in inner Melbourne.

The option ( and I am sure it has been examined) where I think the best chance is at Caulfield racecourse:

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/inner-south/caulfield-racecourse-liberals-pledge-425-million-to-ovals-plan/news-story/50702bf11aac868ccf43af8dcf04fa63

Unfortunately the MFC hasn't been mentioned in any articles about this redevelopment, but the land is sure there.....

The race club will want real money for the lease of any admin facilities. The oval is another matter but isn't it used as a carpark on race days not to mention that the early part of the Caulfield carnival may begin during the finals season. ( A big problem for a club like the MFC which features so strongly at that time of year !)

As you say worth investigating because it ticks the box of a multi use facility. Our training watchers could combine with some good track watching.

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

1 hour ago, DV8 said:

Our own conservativeness,  has been stifling us for decades.

It's like we're being choked...  by that  'Mcc' necktie,  they have in the dresser.

This one DV?

[poita 3,902]

I think we missed an opportunity at Moorabbin. It is close enough to our heartland, decent facilities on the back of council and government funding, and easy enough to get to for players living in the south east. It also ties in nicely with our relationship with SMJFL.

[old dee 23,799]

16 minutes ago, poita said:

I think we missed an opportunity at Moorabbin. It is close enough to our heartland, decent facilities on the back of council and government funding, and easy enough to get to for players living in the south east. It also ties in nicely with our relationship with SMJFL.

But but it is not in Yarra park poita!

[daisycutter 29,622]

2 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

1/2 is based on players generally travelling outside peak hour and travel in the opposite direction to peak travellers.

sorry, no way in anywhere near half an hour any time of the week

[praha 11,240]

1 hour ago, Sorry kids said:

Maybe the Club needs to rethink the Melbourne in the MFC. Does it refer to the CBD and inner area around the G or the broader metropolitan area. Time to think for the present but also one or two generations ahead. Thhe hawks got out of hawthorn and the rest was history. And now they have the foresight to be moving from Waverly.

Growth area for the club is the CBD. We need greater presence there. Undoubtedly. If we don't someone else eventually will. It's no longer just a business hub it is now home to tens if not hundreds of thousands of people and will continue to grow. Sport is an effective means to get new people to a city and especially a country to "fit" in. We have rightly targetted the Asian student demographic and you see more of them at games now, either as a "day out" for fun to check it off the bucket list or even more people you can tell have embraced the club. I see them because I sit in AFL Members near GA and the number is growing. 

If we want to be the Yankees or the Knicks or the Lakers of the AFL, we need those supporters. Our core base is too concentrated and small to rely upon exclusively for growth. We need presence in growth areas with young populations.

I think it was Bartlett who said we needed a shop front in the CBD. Sell tickets exclusively to Melbourne games. Small steps but we need a foothold.

Edited May 9, 2019 by praha

[DV8 2,271]

47 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

This one DV?

Hah,  I was thinking more like thisun,  'RN'.

[The Chief 697]

Any prospects in Albert Park/Lakeside Oval area?

[KLV 1,765]

5 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Let me make this claim based on no inside information...

I predict that Collingwood will relocate their training facilities to Victoria Park and we will take over theirs at Olympic Park.  Collingwood will choose to move because of a multi-million dollar upgrade supported by Federal and/or State Governments. Our new facilities will also be upgraded as part of the deal. While the fingerprints of Gary Pert will be found all over the plans, it will be Eddie McGuire who will bask in the glory of taking Collingwood "home".

Great theory wish it were true

[Cam Schwab's Whiteboard 209]

1 hour ago, Rusty Nails said:

This one DV?

You rang?

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

10 minutes ago, DV8 said:

Hah,  I was thinking more like thisun,  'RN'.

Yes I figured it wld be different to that smarter MFC one up there but cldnt find one on the net DV ??

[KLV 1,765]

2 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

I have no idea od. 

For me this is one of the most depressing threads on this board as every Vic club is getting tens of millions for their existing grounds and we are homeless.

I usually don't read this thread but was lured back by the orange 'Hot!' flag - thought something good may have happened for us.  Alas not, just another club getting more millions. 

Me too, a very depressing thread. I too hoped there might be some positive news

[—coach— 3,496]

3 hours ago, old dee said:

The last line fixes everything DJ, the Hawks don't seem to have been affected adversely by being at Waverely or Dingley. 

Docklands or Casey seem the only options to me and as Docklands is probably 10+ years away at best it is Casey for me. 

I don’t think Casey will ever be a viable option, it’s 55km from the MCG and takes anywhere from 55mins to 90mins to get too (it’s quicker to get to my parents farm in Trentham which is 101km away from the MCG than Casey Fields in peak hour) Waverley and Dingley are 24 and 26km respectivley from MCG and take far less time to get too. Plus Waverley is the Hawks previous home ground and they have considerable membership located around the area.

If we’re considering a home base miles away from our home ground, it’s far quicker by road to go the same distance north than south east from the MCG, so we would be better off with a base in the acres of free space near Taylor’s lakes which is only 26km from the city and takes around 47mins in peak hour.

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

9 minutes ago, Cam Schwab's Whiteboard said:

You rang?

I did many years ago Cam and you were very accommodating...but that was during your first stint!   Let's just say i wasn't as thrilled with the white board follow up!

Edited May 9, 2019 by Rusty Nails

[Lucifers Hero 39,966]

35 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

sorry, no way in anywhere near half an hour any time of the week

the starting point was their abode not the mcg. 

Anyway, the original point to which the travel time relates was it is the admin staff that would have travel difficulties to Casey more than the players who tend to live east and south of the cbd and travel outside peak time against the flow of peak traffic.