From that bench I would make 4 changes. Weid in for Smith. Wagner for ANB. Spargo for Stretch. And Lewis for Fritsch. 

  On 23/05/2019 at 22:37, Nasher said:

Pretty hard to pick from that extended bench - Harmes is the only lock. Stretch and Fritsch are both only hanging on by a thread; you'd think Goodwin would pick Lewis even though most of us now wouldn't; I really want to back Weideman in to get going again; Preuss was playing okay before injury. I don't think Spargo or Wagner play.

I'd pick Harmes, Stretch, Weideman and Fritsch. I think Goodwin will pick Harmes, Lewis, Preuss and Fritsch.

Id pick harmes (of course), wagner (need him for greene), Fritsch (so lucky we have so many injuries, would play him at wing or half forward where is best suited) and I can't believe I'm saying this Lewis (he allows fritter to move up the ground and provides some experience in a very young back line -  but goes out when lever comes in).

Stretch has had his chance and needs to go back and learn to release the quickly and instinctively. Slowed our forward momentum against wc a number of times, which really stood out as we were obviously instructed to play on whenever possible. If he can't sort that aspect of his game i can't see him playing AFL again.

I've cooled on Pruess. Good back up for maxy but simply not mobile enough and fast enough to play as a semi permanent forward. Particularly against gws who love to run it off hb.  The predicted wet weather doesn't help his cause either.

I reckon goody will pick Harmed, Wagner, Fritter and Lewis.

  On 23/05/2019 at 22:48, Demon Dude said:

From that bench I would make 4 changes. Weid in for Smith. Wagner for ANB. Spargo for Stretch. And Lewis for Fritsch. 

All the changes will come from the extended bench. Smith will be named in the final side and expected to play.

Speaking of the rain, i really hope it holds off until after the game (or until half way through the last when we have 4 goal lead).

I'm firmly of the view that contrary to popular belief wet weather adavantages teams with good skills. And Gws are probably the most skilled side in the league. Wet weather makes executing skills more difficult and so it stands to reason good technique mitigates against that factor - and vice versa. 

In addition to having poor skills we have a game style (ie quick hands, chains of handball etc) that works better for us in dry conditions.

  On 23/05/2019 at 11:41, chookrat said:

No way Harmes is playing for Casey. I reckon Stretch and Fritch will both play for Melbourne on Sunday as well. 

Naming Harmes on the extended interchange bench and then by extension naming him in Casey's 18 is almost an insult for someone who's been our best players over the past 6 weeks.

I know the team on paper means nothing but they could've sneaked him into the 18.

Edited May 23, 20195 yr by Bring-Back-Powell

  On 23/05/2019 at 22:58, Nasher said:

All the changes will come from the extended bench. Smith will be named in the final side and expected to play.

Late change is still possible if Smith's not 100% though. I wouldn't risk him.

Haven’t seen much of GWS this year. Has Greene been playing up the field more or still predominantly stationed inside 50? 

I wouldn’t be surprised if Hore goes to him early.

  On 23/05/2019 at 23:10, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Naming Harmes on the extended interchange bench and then by extension naming him in Casey's 18 is almost an insult for someone who's been our best players over the past 6 weeks.

I know the team on paper means nothing but they could've sneaked him into the 18.

Harmes would be in no doubt about his position in the team. He knows he is a total lock.

It would more be about ensuring a player like Smith isn't worried about his spot, which no doubt he would have if both he and weed were named on the bench.

  On 23/05/2019 at 23:23, Dee Zephyr said:

Haven’t seen much of GWS this year. Has Greene been playing up the field more or still predominantly stationed inside 50? 

I wouldn’t be surprised if Hore goes to him early.

I thought Wagner but you're probably right as Greene is a strong bigger and excellent over head. Might need horse's height and strength.

That said he has playing am important role as an intercept mark player and not sure if he could afford to zone Greene.

Yeah I'd go Wagner on Greene too. Put Hore on one of their lesser forwards so he can drop off him when he's not in dangerous positions and intercept for us.

  On 23/05/2019 at 23:26, binman said:

I thought Wagner but you're probably right as Greene is a strong bigger and excellent over head. Might need horse's height and strength.

That said he has playing am important role as an intercept mark player and not sure if he could afford to zone Greene.

Good discussion binman, if anything it shows we still have some options even with 3-4 starting defenders out. Wagner can be used solely to negate Greene, Hore is quickly becoming a favourite amongst us, definitely not a one trick pony and loving his ability to win the one on one too. 

  On 23/05/2019 at 23:23, binman said:

Harmes would be in no doubt about his position in the team. He knows he is a total lock.

It would more be about ensuring a player like Smith isn't worried about his spot, which no doubt he would have if both he and weed were named on the bench.

Agreed. I'm reasonably confident the players don't have to wait for the team to be published to find out whether they are playing on the weekend.

  On 23/05/2019 at 23:43, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Agreed. I'm reasonably confident the players don't have to wait for the team to be published to find out whether they are playing on the weekend.

No, but I suspect teams will be finalised today so the players won't know the final line up yet (but will before it is announced tonight obviously)

  On 23/05/2019 at 10:25, one_demon said:

Giants' poor MCG record is at the forefront of their players' minds this week.  They will win.

Usually works the other way.

Predicting Greene will get a close tag and get reported this week. Due for some stupidity.

  On 23/05/2019 at 09:29, Beetle said:

Yes his 15 possessions and 3 goals 2 was utterly disgusting last week.

How many times did he not even provide a contest?  Shirked the contest a couple of times too.  2 goals from being out the back inflate his stats and overstate his level of performance.

  On 23/05/2019 at 22:48, Demon Dude said:

From that bench I would make 4 changes. Weid in for Smith. Wagner for ANB. Spargo for Stretch. And Lewis for Fritsch. 

Smith is named on the field, he won't be dropped. They'llonly drop players from the extended bench

How people still don't understand this concept is seriously mind boggling.

  On 23/05/2019 at 23:07, binman said:

Speaking of the rain, i really hope it holds off until after the game (or until half way through the last when we have 4 goal lead).

I'm firmly of the view that contrary to popular belief wet weather adavantages teams with good skills. And Gws are probably the most skilled side in the league. Wet weather makes executing skills more difficult and so it stands to reason good technique mitigates against that factor - and vice versa. 

In addition to having poor skills we have a game style (ie quick hands, chains of handball etc) that works better for us in dry conditions.

Agree, our skills are woeful 

We need dry conditions and plenty of Grippo 

  On 24/05/2019 at 00:06, dazzledavey36 said:

Smith is named on the field, he won't be dropped. They'llonly drop players from the extended bench

How people still don't understand this concept is seriously mind boggling.

Except for the 'late changes' option where anyone can be replaced for an emergency up until just before game time, now becoming a selection tool rather than emergency option

  On 24/05/2019 at 00:05, hells bells said:

How many times did he not even provide a contest?  Shirked the contest a couple of times too.  2 goals from being out the back inflate his stats and overstate his level of performance.

Has the footy smarts to get out the back on his own.

None of our other small forwards can do it...so we stick with Jeffy until we find someone else.

  On 23/05/2019 at 23:30, Demon Dude said:

Yeah I'd go Wagner on Greene too. Put Hore on one of their lesser forwards so he can drop off him when he's not in dangerous positions and intercept for us.

Marty Hore will be an absolute star one day.

The bench should be Harmes, Preuss, Fritsch and C. Wagner.

  On 23/05/2019 at 23:07, binman said:

Speaking of the rain, i really hope it holds off until after the game (or until half way through the last when we have 4 goal lead).

I'm firmly of the view that contrary to popular belief wet weather adavantages teams with good skills. And Gws are probably the most skilled side in the league. Wet weather makes executing skills more difficult and so it stands to reason good technique mitigates against that factor - and vice versa. 

In addition to having poor skills we have a game style (ie quick hands, chains of handball etc) that works better for us in dry conditions.

Maybe wet weather will have George Costanza, opposite of every previous decision-type effect on Petracca.

I’m doubtful Preuss will get selected due to the weather forecast. 90% chance of rain, showers from the afternoon to evening. 

If it looks like holding off to the evening, bring him in as a late change with the old ‘general soreness’ on Billy Stretch. 

I think Fritsch will survive. Some of his kicks through the middle of the ground last week were superb and opened the Eagles up. Although I agree he coughed it up a few times with some bad handballs last week.

Therefore,

In: Lewis

Out: AnB

Late change on Sunday (weather permitting): Out Stretch, In Preuss.

Edited May 24, 20195 yr by At the break of Gawn

  On 24/05/2019 at 00:05, hells bells said:

How many times did he not even provide a contest?  Shirked the contest a couple of times too.  2 goals from being out the back inflate his stats and overstate his level of performance.

Shirking contests is the biggest issue for mine. Has done so in all 3 matches since his return