brendan 3,458 Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 3 hours ago, Dee Zephyr said: Closest to pin, how many inside 50s for us on that tiny ground next week? 90 and we kick 8 goals 8 behinds sydney have 30 inside 50s for 22 goals 5 behinds 1 2 Quote
Clayton van Oliver 1,829 Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 (edited) Stick fat. Took a week for mids to get going, forward line looked better this week. Backline will take a while. I know everyone's freaking out but until Lever and May are back they won't drop Oscar, maybe Frost for getting pushed off too easy. But he's an angry unit and has improvement in him. I know this opinion is against the grain, but we saw last year that it's a marathon with Goody and the boys. Lockhart shows something, Tracc was way better. Viney showed mongrel moments. Jones will get going. Stick fat and trust. Edit: spelling and support for Jones and Viney Edited April 6, 2019 by AmDamDemon 3 Quote
Soidee 1,496 Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 19 hours ago, Petraccattack said: In - Petty, Keilty, Stretch, Garlett, Preuss Out - ANB, O.Mac, Frost, KK, J.Wagner TMac to the backline this week to play on Buddy. And he might need to stay there until we get May and Lever back. I agree with Tmac to backline until May returns. We should put Keilty and Weid there with a small forwards. 2 Quote
Soidee 1,496 Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 36 minutes ago, AmDamDemon said: Stick fat. Took a week for mids to get going, forward line looked better this week. Backline will take a while. I know everyone's freaking out but until Lever and May are back they won't drop Oscar, maybe Frost for getting pushed off too easy. But he's an angry unit and has improvement in him. I know this opinion is against the grain, but we saw last year that it's a marathon with Goody and the boys. Lockhart shows something, Tracc was way better. Viney showed mongrel moments. Jones will get going. Stick fat and trust. Edit: spelling and support for Jones and Viney Jones is right on the edge of been told to take a rest. If he plays, put him forward. Far too slow in the middle. 1 Quote
old dee 24,083 Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 Imo it largely won't matter who we pick as they will not increase the skill level above Friday night. We will only show better results when the likes of VDB and Lever return. Until then we will get more of the last five games. However I would try Keilty and / or Preuss, we need someone in the forward line who can stand their ground and take a grab. 2 1 Quote
Clayton van Oliver 1,829 Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 21 minutes ago, old dee said: Imo it largely won't matter who we pick as they will not increase the skill level above Friday night. We will only show better results when the likes of VDB and Lever return. Until then we will get more of the last five games. However I would try Keilty and / or Preuss, we need someone in the forward line who can stand their ground and take a grab. I really don't get this 'last five games' bizzo. Since when are we counting pre season? Also, if you're not seeing this as a journey, to be enjoyed and taken with all the ups and downs, you haven't been paying attention. Simon Goodwin knows what it takes; none of us do here. Unless someone here wants to put forward their 200+ games and two premiership medals? 1 Quote
old dee 24,083 Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 32 minutes ago, AmDamDemon said: I really don't get this 'last five games' bizzo. Since when are we counting pre season? Also, if you're not seeing this as a journey, to be enjoyed and taken with all the ups and downs, you haven't been paying attention. Simon Goodwin knows what it takes; none of us do here. Unless someone here wants to put forward their 200+ games and two premiership medals? You don't need to to have killed someone to know how to commit murder ADD. Practise matches show form is important as it shows up the same problem as the last three matches. What they show is we have been doing the same things for 5 games in a row. If we keep doing it next Thursday that will be four games and two practise matches before that. Surely that shows you there is a theme to be very concerned about. As for the wonder coach the buck stops at his desk. The problem with taking the ups and downs is it has been 95% downs for the last half a century, it is almost like the way we are performing this year is in our DNA, a little success one year then crap the following year. 3 Quote
Clayton van Oliver 1,829 Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, old dee said: You don't need to to have killed someone to know how to commit murder ADD. Practise matches show form is important as it shows up the same problem as the last three matches. What they show is we have been doing the same things for 5 games in a row. If we keep doing it next Thursday that will be four games and two practise matches before that. Surely that shows you there is a theme to be very concerned about. As for the wonder coach the buck stops at his desk. The problem with taking the ups and downs is it has been 95% downs for the last half a century, it is almost like the way we are performing this year is in our DNA, a little success one year then crap the following year. I know mate, it's been a long time. But no, it's not in our DNA. Footy has changed massively in the last year, let alone 5, let alone 20, let alone 55. This time last year the same questions were being asked. It's the same thing, let's wait and see where the year takes us before throwing in the towel. It'll be worth it in the end, as you well know OD, having had the patience that you have so far ✊? 1 Quote
old dee 24,083 Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 1 minute ago, AmDamDemon said: I know mate, it's been a long time. But no, it's not in our DNA. Footy has changed massively in the last year, let alone 5, let alone 20, let alone 55. This time last year the same questions were being asked. It's the same thing, let's wait and see where the year takes us before throwing in the towel. It'll be worth it in the end, as you well know OD, having had the patience that you have so far ✊? Only twice in the last thirty years has the side that lost the first three games played finals. Ominous record to break when we have such poor form and a long injury list that will not improve much in the next month. I looked at the fixture today and the only game I have any confidence we will win before the break is the GCS game. Start thinking 2010 for finals and hope like hell when we get those injured back we can have a more pleasurable second half with a few wins. 1 Quote
WERRIDEE 5,638 Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 B: JETTA, FROST, HIBBERD HB: SALEM, PETTY, FRITSCH C : HARMES, OLIVER, STRETCH HF: PETRACCA, T.SMITH, C.WAGNER F: MELKSHAM, WEIDEMAN, LOCKHART FOLL: GAWN, VINEY, BRAYSHAW IC: JONES, HUNT, KOLODJASHNIJ, J.WAGNER 1 Quote
Fanatique Demon 2,764 Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 9 hours ago, old dee said: Only twice in the last thirty years has the side that lost the first three games played finals. Ominous record to break when we have such poor form and a long injury list that will not improve much in the next month. I looked at the fixture today and the only game I have any confidence we will win before the break is the GCS game. Start thinking 2010 for finals and hope like hell when we get those injured back we can have a more pleasurable second half with a few wins. I take it you mean "start thinking 2020". Sure, but those of us who are old don't want to wait, even for a year. I have lost 4 family/friends Demon supporters in the last few years who died living in hope since 1964. 1 Quote
samcantstandya 1,081 Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 11 hours ago, Soidee said: Jones is right on the edge of been told to take a rest. If he plays, put him forward. Far too slow in the middle. He needs 2 go 2 Casey & learn how 2 play smart team footy not kick long 2 a contest every time. He shouldn't be captain. 1 Quote
old dee 24,083 Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Fanatique Demon said: I take it you mean "start thinking 2020". Sure, but those of us who are old don't want to wait, even for a year. I have lost 4 family/friends Demon supporters in the last few years who died living in hope since 1964. Correct 2020. I have the same problem as you but the stark reality is 2019 is already spent. Until we get a few of the injured back we will not win games against most of the competition. The sad reality is even with those back it is not a GF winning squad. Like you and many others a flag will not happen until we are in the ground. 1 Quote
Deemented Are Go! 3,704 Posted April 7, 2019 Posted April 7, 2019 Drunkn reporting no Preuss at Casey - possible in? Quote
Docs Demons 1,810 Posted April 7, 2019 Posted April 7, 2019 Whilst I would like to drop about 10 of them I realise this is not going to happen as Casey playing today does not allow enough time for recovery if someone has a blinder. Also seeing I have settled down from Friday night I reckon minimal changes as we need some continuity.Take into account the crap umpiring (decisions there favour close to goal) and that most of our players are crap at moment we still only lost by 3 goals. Some upside for us ( I hope) Quote
old dee 24,083 Posted April 7, 2019 Posted April 7, 2019 39 minutes ago, Deemented Are Go! said: Drunkn reporting no Preuss at Casey - possible in? Or injured? Quote
olisik 4,060 Posted April 7, 2019 Posted April 7, 2019 Need to drop Jones for Stretch. No point playing Jones on the wing as it’s not his position and he can’t play the role. If his been pushed out as an inside kid then so be-it. Time to move on. 1 1 Quote
dazzledavey36 56,341 Posted April 7, 2019 Posted April 7, 2019 20 minutes ago, olisik said: Need to drop Jones for Stretch. No point playing Jones on the wing as it’s not his position and he can’t play the role. If his been pushed out as an inside kid then so be-it. Time to move on. Mate they are not going to drop an AFL captain. Its never happened in AFL history and never will. Some of you are so thick not to realise that. 1 Quote
beelzebub 23,392 Posted April 7, 2019 Posted April 7, 2019 On 4/5/2019 at 11:05 PM, america de cali said: Time to make the toughest decision and drop Jones. His time is up. I agree essentially. However.. apparently it's a no-no and this is why you get stuck in the quicksand. There's a legitimate dilemma though, as much as ol Jonesy's becoming a liability... who's bashing down the door or fit enough ? Catch 22 Quote
Older demon 2,826 Posted April 7, 2019 Posted April 7, 2019 Pruess definitely being held over for Thursday and Stretch and Hore stayed on the bench for the entire first quarter. Casey is playing worse than the seniors. Slow, cannot hit a target, badly beaten on the outside and very few who look like they will press for senior selection 1 1 Quote
davo 209 Posted April 7, 2019 Posted April 7, 2019 On 4/5/2019 at 11:35 PM, DeeSpencer said: Out: T Mc (rested) In: Preuss/Keilty take your pick Out: Weid In: T Smith Out: Oscar In: Petty Out: KK In: Stretch Out: ANB In: Spargo/Baker/Garlett/Sparrow whoever. Out: Jones In: Maynard 2 Quote
davo 209 Posted April 7, 2019 Posted April 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, Older demon said: Pruess definitely being held over for Thursday and Stretch and Hore stayed on the bench for the entire first quarter. Casey is playing worse than the seniors. Slow, cannot hit a target, badly beaten on the outside and very few who look like they will press for senior selection Reality is, Stretch and Maynard only 2 who’ve done anything Quote
John Crow Batty 8,892 Posted April 7, 2019 Posted April 7, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, beelzebub said: I agree essentially. However.. apparently it's a no-no and this is why you get stuck in the quicksand. There's a legitimate dilemma though, as much as ol Jonesy's becoming a liability... who's bashing down the door or fit enough ? Catch 22 During WW2 the RAF lost all its experienced career pilots and squadron leaders within weeks of hostilities. Later on there were squadron leaders that were only 18-19 years old running the show and doing a heroic job. However it is easier to replace leaders due to attrition. Difficult to shoe horn out current encumbents due to pecking order and political considerations even if they are totally ineffective and over the hill without pain. Takes courage to make the big call and we will never know who can truly lead when opportunities are denied. Successful clubs make the ruthless decisions when they have too. We are leaving it a little late. Edited April 7, 2019 by america de cali 2 Quote
Neil Crompton 5,852 Posted April 7, 2019 Posted April 7, 2019 1 hour ago, davo said: Reality is, Stretch and Maynard only 2 who’ve done anything The last time a player at Casey had 17 tackles he was selected in the AFL side the next week. AVB 2 Quote
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