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32 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Here's the Steven May incident. I think he could be in trouble.

 

Bumped him in the chest?

If thats reportable Aussie Rules as we once knew it is finished.

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I'm checking out for 10 days... The overreacting on here is embarrassing. 

JLT means nothing, I have no less confidence in us then I did 2 weeks ago.

We'll romp Port in 14 days time

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43 minutes ago, Alex Flood said:

Pre season mate, calm down. 

If were 5 weeks in & we’re still playing like this then we can really worry.

I have no doubt you’ll be laughing at how worried you got from these results.

It was space, delivery to space and opportune leading in the forward line that beat us. Compounded, of course, by the backs who all flew rather than having planned groundwork to do. Joel Smith looked and played like his dad. Well done. on that one.

Oscar made 5 big mistakes in the first qtr alone, 4 of these were close-in goals. He continues to be on the wrong side of his man, or behind by several metres, or attempting to get behind a handy teammate body in close for protection (as if he does not wish to be in the allocated action or to make it look like it is not his responsibility anymore}, or having no chance of a possession and clearance due to his absolute lack of speed. He did not improve for the next 3 qtrs. People say he kicks well. Unless it is a rare free kick, he does not get the ball at all. Poor old Nev - doing his own job brilliantly, and backing up the mistakes of Oscar, week in, week out. No wonder he comes off the field at the end of a game absolutely spent. 

Frost has to be the CHB whilst Lever is absent from this team and when Lever returns, it should be as a backline - HBFlank - utility to do his intercept stuff on the flanks and coming into the goal-to-goal line as required; these are his natural attributes. Frosty is the bloke to do the CHB body stuff, the leaps and spoils, and the break-aways. Full stop. 

The forwards? Constantly receiving inaccurate bombs, slowly delivered. No sense of making or taking space. No sense of leads to advantage. Happy to crowd as if mere muscle wins games. Initiative matters - and we have none in the forward line at present.

The result does not matter, of course. Just a hit out. I think we have all seen enough of this style of play when it did matter and we would hate to see it this year when it does happen. Modus operandii needs attention.

 

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Keilty got found out a bit today, did a couple of nice things but was otherwise quiet. 

In his defence the rotations were screwed up. It was supposed to be him and Max rotating between forward and ruck but that didn’t happen as well as it should have. As such he wasn’t able to get settled and found himself out of position a lot.

Was pretty awesome seeing him line up on Hodge though. 

 

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1 hour ago, Wiseblood said:

So let's put the result aside.  If we're being honest, it's meaningless at the moment.

I think we are a side that is still coming to terms with a new(ish) gameplan that has to fit into the 6-6-6 model.  We know that Goody loves to use two players off the square and we can't do that now.  It will take time to get used to, and we saw that today.  Sometimes we looked excellent, other times we were left exposed.  That may happen early in the year and we might need to be a little patient with that.

Also, we took in less players and then had both JKH and Harmes go down.  That hurt rotations and it showed for most of the second half.  That can't be ignored.

The positives for me - Brayshaw and AVB looked good, with AVB having a huge amount of tackles.  I think Joel Smith gives us something good up forward and kicking four is a sign of that.  Whether or not they can slot him into the Round 1 side is the big question, but he deserves to be in the conversation.  I think our backline will be fine too, and we added a number of players who were having their first run for the year.  They'll be much better for the game.

Obviously, we need to tighten up on our forward pressure and our skills a little, but that's what JLT is for.  Skills are never top notch in March.  With Viney, Jones and Melksham to add to the lineup, it will take out a few others and we'll be a better side, especially around the ball.

The injuries are a negative too, but if Harmes is okay and it's not too long term, then we've done okay there too with the next game a fortnight away.

No slitting of wrists or worries for me and it hasn't dampened my enthusiasm for Round 1.  Bring it on!

This.

The Swannies and Hawforn made an artform about building into the season proper. The preseason comp is made for tweaking the gameplan and experimenting. Our boys will be a different proposition by mid-season if things go as i suspect they will. 2 losses this year doesn't mean the same as 2 losses in previous seasons. We are a much better side who will take time to adjust to a new Key backman, and yet another who is still to return. Add our 2 Captains,  Melksham, play for 4 points and we a completely different team.

Long term we still look good. This is no time for despair. (Or even worry)

Still, we didnt look very good today :roos:

 

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I got up at 6 am to watch. (I'm in Europe) Should have stayed in bed. My observations: 

Backline let down by mids allowing Brisbane easy forward entries.

Forwards competing with each other in marking contests.

No real crumbers in forward half.

For all his strength and supposed ability, Petracca's disposal is pathetic.

Yes, we have Viney, Jones and Melksham to come in. But they haven't had full pre-seasons or proper match practice, so we can't expect too much from them in round 1. 

I'm to Melbourne for a holiday next week and intend to go the Port game. But I fear we will struggle against them.

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Potential Injury List Through MFCSS Lenses.

  PLAYER INJURY LENGTH
PREUSS Braydon.png Braydon Preuss Adductor TBA
KENNEDY HARRIS Jay.png Jay Kennedy-Harris Leg TBA
HARMES James.png James Harmes Finger TBA
VINEY Jack.png Jack Viney Foot TBA
FRITSCH Bayley.png Bayley Fritsch Hip TBA
PETRACCA Christian.png Christian Petracca Wrist TBA
SMITH Joel.png Joel Smith Leg TBA
SMITH Tim.png Tim Smith Calf 3 Weeks
KOLODJASHNIJ Kade.png Kade Kolodjashnij Adductor 3-4 Weeks
GARLETT Jeff.png Jeff Garlett Shoulder 4-6 Weeks
HANNAN Mitch.png Mitch Hannan Knee 8-12 Weeks
LEVER Jake.png Jake Lever Knee 12-16 Weeks
NIETSCHKE Aaron.png Aaron Nietschke Knee Season
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21 minutes ago, Storm Boy said:

It is no rumor about James Harmes.Fox Footy confirmed he went to Hospital. His arm was in a sling 

Motherfudger 

A horrid day compounded (no pun intended) by injuries. Thank you next. 

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11 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Potential Injury List Through MFCSS Lenses.

  PLAYER INJURY LENGTH
PREUSS Braydon.png Braydon Preuss Adductor TBA
KENNEDY HARRIS Jay.png Jay Kennedy-Harris Leg TBA
HARMES James.png James Harmes Finger TBA
VINEY Jack.png Jack Viney Foot TBA
FRITSCH Bayley.png Bayley Fritsch Hip TBA
PETRACCA Christian.png Christian Petracca Wrist TBA
SMITH Joel.png Joel Smith Leg TBA
SMITH Tim.png Tim Smith Calf 3 Weeks
KOLODJASHNIJ Kade.png Kade Kolodjashnij Adductor 3-4 Weeks
GARLETT Jeff.png Jeff Garlett Shoulder 4-6 Weeks
HANNAN Mitch.png Mitch Hannan Knee 8-12 Weeks
LEVER Jake.png Jake Lever Knee 12-16 Weeks
NIETSCHKE Aaron.png Aaron Nietschke Knee Season

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1 hour ago, Webber said:

Dismiss it if you will, and many will, but the negative of those 2 games can’t be anything but a huge worry. We are defensively horrible. Up front, on the ball, down back. Poor defensive cover for the loose ball. Giving to players under pressure and not backing them up. Too much unacvountable football. 

Lack of effort, workrate.   Attitude is a concern.

Port will tear us another one,  if we turn out like the past 2 JLT games.

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10 minutes ago, Alex Flood said:

I’ve asked before but didn’t get an answer lol

Does anyone know who #47 is for us playing for Casey ? Got mistaken for Pruess in a clip of the reserves game at half time. Big bloke with a bit of ink if that helps.

It's Liam Wale-Buxton - been a dominant Eastern Football League ruckman the last few years with Vermont and for the Tiwi Bombers in the offseason.

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3 minutes ago, goodoil said:

It's Liam Wale-Buxton - been a dominant Eastern Football League ruckman the last few years with Vermont and for the Tiwi Bombers in the offseason.

Looked more like Liam the Whale Buxton. Not a small boy 

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21 minutes ago, Un fan de Demons said:

I got up at 6 am to watch. (I'm in Europe) Should have stayed in bed. My observations: 

Backline let down by mids allowing Brisbane easy forward entries.

Forwards competing with each other in marking contests.

No real crumbers in forward half.

For all his strength and supposed ability, Petracca's disposal is pathetic.

Yes, we have Viney, Jones and Melksham to come in. But they haven't had full pre-seasons or proper match practice, so we can't expect too much from them in round 1. 

I'm to Melbourne for a holiday next week and intend to go the Port game. But I fear we will struggle against them.

Hi  'UfdD',  can I ask,  how did you get the game live in Europe.

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19 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Potential Injury List Through MFCSS Lenses.

  PLAYER INJURY LENGTH
PREUSS Braydon.png Braydon Preuss Adductor Five years
KENNEDY HARRIS Jay.png Jay Kennedy-Harris Broken Leg Career
HARMES James.png James Harmes Finger Up to 12 Weeks
VINEY Jack.png Jack Viney Foot FMD
FRITSCH Bayley.png Bayley Fritsch Hip Please make it stop
PETRACCA Christian.png Christian Petracca Wrist Is it his feeding hand?
SMITH Joel.png Joel Smith Leg Faking it
SMITH Tim.png Tim Smith Calf 3 Weeks
KOLODJASHNIJ Kade.png Kade Kolodjashnij Adductor 3-4 Weeks
GARLETT Jeff.png Jeff Garlett Shoulder 4-6 Weeks
HANNAN Mitch.png Mitch Hannan Knee 8-12 Weeks
LEVER Jake.png Jake Lever Knee 12-16 Weeks
NIETSCHKE Aaron.png Aaron Nietschke Knee Season

Edited for greater MFCSS accuracy - with projections gleaned from the match-day thread.

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