Farewell Dom Tyson

[spirit of norm smith 16,588]

Tyson for Suns pick 31. 2nd round. 

KK to Dees for pick 45. 3rd Round. 

So

Suns: TYSON AND PICK 45 

Demons : KOLODJASHNIJ AND PICK 31. 

[Ted Lasso 19,549]

If we could snag the swans pick 13 with some later picks and vanders and send say 

12, Tyson and a 2019 second round 

for 

may, kolo &2019 third round 

[Ethan Tremblay 30,966]

Tyson has no interest in going to the Suns. 

Edited October 8, 2018 by Ethan Tremblay

[Engorged Onion 10,223]

3 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Tyson has no interest in going to the Suns. 

in caps lock please...

[John Demonic 5,850]

If Tyson nominates Essendon. I wonder if we could prize McDonald-Tipungwati off of them. At first glance they'd be horrified to part with a 'cult' hero. But looking at Tysons numbers, he's a far superior and dependable player to have on a team thats lacking in the middle, he'd compliment Merrett and Heppell. Extracting and feeding it to them where they can do damage with their disposal on outside. Whereas in Tipungwati we get a stay at home crumber that offers elite pressure with his speed, something we've been missing to some degree. Throw in Garlett if need be to sweeten the deal.

Edited October 8, 2018 by johndemonic

[DemonLad5 1,642]

22 minutes ago, johndemonic said:

If Tyson nominates Essendon. I wonder if we could prize McDonald-Tipungwati off of them. At first glance they'd be horrified to part with a 'cult' hero. But looking at Tysons numbers, he's a far superior and dependable player to have on a team thats lacking in the middle, he'd compliment Merrett and Heppell. Extracting and feeding it to them where they can do damage with their disposal on outside. Whereas in Tipungwati we get a stay at home crumber that offers elite pressure with his speed, something we've been missing to some degree. Throw in Garlett if need be to sweeten the deal.

Can we not become ‘those types’ of fans 

[John Demonic 5,850]

1 minute ago, DemonLad5 said:

Can we not become ‘those types’ of fans 

?

[DeeSpencer 26,081]

1 minute ago, johndemonic said:

?

You're mad if you think our depth player who would we'd gladly send to a good home, where he'd only compete to improve them would somehow net us a contracted best 22 important player from another club. Even more mad if you think just throwing Garlett in - who should be retiring - would help.

 

[John Demonic 5,850]

5 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

You're mad if you think our depth player who would we'd gladly send to a good home, where he'd only compete to improve them would somehow net us a contracted best 22 important player from another club. Even more mad if you think just throwing Garlett in - who should be retiring - would help.

 

Tyson is depth because we bat deep (Well actually he was best 22 in our finals) - Essendon don't bat deep, therefore he's best 22. How is that madness? We're not 'sending' to a good home, we're trading because of surplus.

Edit: And from my understanding from a few Bomber fans, Tipungwati is not a consistent performer. He can be patchy and also a one way runner. There are drawbacks to both Tipungwati & Tyson.

Edited October 8, 2018 by johndemonic

[DeeSpencer 26,081]

4 minutes ago, johndemonic said:

Tyson is depth because we bat deep (Well actually he was best 22 in our finals) - Essendon don't bat deep, therefore he's best 22. How is that madness? We're not 'sending' to a good home, we're trading because of surplus.

Tyson isn't a walk up start at the Bombers. He'd give them more competition in a role where they are weaker than us, but he'd still be behind Merrett, Heppell, Zaharakis and Dev Smith  and most likely behind Myers who finally got it together this year. So really he'd be competing with the likes of Parish and Langford for centre square minutes.

He doesn't have equal value to a player like Tippa who plays an important role in a difficult to find position. And he certainly doesn't have more value to an extent that Essendon would entertain yet alone even do that trade.

 

[John Demonic 5,850]

58 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Tyson isn't a walk up start at the Bombers. He'd give them more competition in a role where they are weaker than us, but he'd still be behind Merrett, Heppell, Zaharakis and Dev Smith  and most likely behind Myers who finally got it together this year. So really he'd be competing with the likes of Parish and Langford for centre square minutes.

He doesn't have equal value to a player like Tippa who plays an important role in a difficult to find position. And he certainly doesn't have more value to an extent that Essendon would entertain yet alone even do that trade.

 

Fair enough. But I do think we're underselling him a little. Put him back in the middle where he was a runner up in the 2014 best and fairest (4th in 2016) with dedicated minutes and he can excel again. Becoming a regular 30 disposal player. Zaharakis pushed to wing, Dev Smith at HBF. His stats take a noticeable dip this year because of being played out of position. Anyway, the initial comment above about 'those fans' supposes that we're all on the same page in regards to Tysons value. I think he has a big upside that a few clubs will at least bite on a 30-40 pick. Perhaps that's not enough for Tipungwati, but i don't think it's as clear cut. A season or two more of inconsistency and he'd be potentially on the table to address a deficiency somewhere else.  Re Garlett, well who knows if he can switch it on again with senior selection somewhere else. He isn't at a retirement age yet.

Edited October 8, 2018 by johndemonic

[GCDee 3,199]

8 hours ago, Rocky said:

i bloody hope not.. we can do better than that. we ain't using that 2019 first unless its for whitfield/kelly..

That's actually a fantastic deal for us. Our pick next year should be 14+.... and Tyson is likely worth a second round. 

Would do that in a heart beat.

[Demonland 73,140]

 

[Deevout 492]

Picking the Suns would be like choosing your plot at a cemetery. 

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,939]

Why on earth would Tyson agree to play at GC?

He spent two years at GWS when they went 3-41.

Then years later finally plays finals in his home town and is content with life. Only to be told he'll be playing for a 2 or 3 win Gold Coast side for the next couple of years. 

Edited October 9, 2018 by Bring-Back-Powell

[Neitz the Great 555]

25 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Why on earth would Tyson agree to play at GC?

He spent two years at GWS when they went 3-41.

Then years later finally plays finals in his home town and is content with life. Only to be told he'll be playing for a 2 or 3 win Gold Coast side for the next couple of years. 

Opportunity and $$$

[drdrake 3,187]

I reckon the only club with any interest in Tyson will be Carlton, they need an inside mid to help Cripps.  I reckon that pick 42ish they just got off Geelong would be around the mark

[Redleg 41,428]

22 minutes ago, Neitz the Great said:

Opportunity and $$$

Dom going to GC could really help the May trade deal move along, as we would have to give a lesser pick and it might be able to be done without reference to the Hogan deal.

[rjay 25,088]

43 minutes ago, drdrake said:

I reckon the only club with any interest in Tyson will be Carlton, they need an inside mid to help Cripps.  I reckon that pick 42ish they just got off Geelong would be around the mark

Well you aren't correct, there are other clubs interested and one would surprise.

[Redleg 41,428]

Hope he declares he wants to go to GC.

[rjay 25,088]

1 minute ago, Redleg said:

Hope he declares he wants to go to GC.

I reckon Roosy would have given the inside mail to Dew...he is a Dom fan.

The terms would want to be very good for him to make the move though.

[Ted Lasso 19,549]

5 minutes ago, rjay said:

Well you aren't correct, there are other clubs interested and one would surprise.

Correct. I know of 4 definitely keen and 2 that potentially. So there is a market for him. 

[Redleg 41,428]

2 minutes ago, rjay said:

I reckon Roosy would have given the inside mail to Dew...he is a Dom fan.

The terms would want to be very good for him to make the move though.

4 more years at current pay would do it. Think they said he is on $500k per year.

Won't get that from anyone else.

[drdrake 3,187]

2 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

Correct. I know of 4 definitely keen and 2 that potentially. So there is a market for him. 

They must see something most of us miss, all I see with Tyson is a bloke with no defensive skills, limited running capacity and can't hit targets

[Wilson7 2,688]

Looks like Tyson wants to go to Norf
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/afl/demon-tyson-keen-on-move-to-north-20181009-p508p5.html