Farewell Jesse Hogan

[Jaded No More 68,903]

Can’t stop players from wanting to leave. 

Is he an absolute fool for leaving a club who has done so much for him and is a major flag contender in the new few years to go to a garbage club with no game plan and a terrible coach? Yes. 

Should we milk him for all he’s worth and extract maximum value out of Freo’s pathetic and never ending desperation to land him? 100%

I am all about improving our club. 

I want him to stay but he if wants to go, let’s make our club better as a result. 

I back the club to get it done. 

[The Backyard Charizard 1,202]

I'll leave you with one last thing....

Melbourne will be the "Kings" of KP players next year ?

[dazzledavey36 54,862]

26 minutes ago, Bring Back Barassi said:

Yes, it panned out that way, but we could have extracted more at the time if we played hardball

Based on what form? The bloke was dropped a week after his 150th game. 

He's not an All Australian, has finished top 5 in the BnF just once in his career, every coach he has had in his career has dropped him.

And then went off to Port and stunk it up there aswell.

[Engorged Onion 10,215]

Just a broad view thought

Through the death of his father, through cancer, through signficant injury... there is a whole range of existential stuff playing out for him...and has been for sometime.

I wouldn't blame him if he seeks the coin to play in his home state, where his mates are, at the expense of the relationships he has formed here...because nothing is guaranteed.

He's 23 and may not value (because he is 23) what we perceive as a successful period of time...he may be a really pragmatic bloke, and think that, he has time in his career to be part of something bigger back home.

Even though there is a whole lot of $$$ on offer presumably, it's clearly bigger than that for the bloke.

[Demon17 5,188]

10 minutes ago, MurDoc516 said:

gaff wants 1.1m from a bottom 8 team. he still could sign for weagles for the 750k the offered. 

True. But i understand this was the figure dees received from his management and opted out as a result not prepared to pay that much and gaff moved onto roos for discussions. 

 

[R.I.P. Troy 185]

Love Hogan...but he's worth trading just so all of us don't have to put up with the 'Hogan going home' talk every off season for the next 10 years. ****ing over it!

Thanks for the 40 or so goals a year Jesse. All the best. C ya.

May for Hogan. I'll take that deal thanks

 

[Mt. Dee-Maaan 608]

59 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

I’d accept brayshaw and their first rounder for hogan. 

what are brayshaw's attributes? will he be a star like hogan? will the pick be a star like hogan??

 

[Goodvibes 3,596]

Sorry, where's all the Whitfield talk coming from?

[beelzebub 23,348]

8 minutes ago, Jaded said:

I am all about improving our club. 

I want him to stay

Sorry Jaded if I steal your post but these two lines intrigue me

What if the result of him leaving...i.e trades etc..Improves the club ??

I ask as Im club first, player afterwards

many are/have possibly suggested...we simply have to make the best of a bad situation. 
I think it's a good situation we can do really well out of. And in doing so Jesse doesnt come off too shabby either

granted...I think differently to many

[wheaters31 675]

Hogan for Pick 5 and Langdon

[Engorged Onion 10,215]

6 minutes ago, Goodvibes said:

Sorry, where's all the Whitfield talk coming from?

I dropped him in there  - #1512

I could have easily said Kelly... I suppose.

Edited September 25, 2018 by Danelska

[Ted Lasso 19,509]

5 minutes ago, Rocky said:

what are brayshaw's attributes? will he be a star like hogan? will the pick be a star like hogan??

 

Maybe not but if hogan wants to leave you’re tossing up a better deal now or a compo pick potentially next year 

[Wiseblood 24,637]

If we go with a pick and player combo, I'd be looking to get the Brisbane first rounder instead of theirs.  I know two spots isn't a huge deal, but it means we can either on trade it for whatever we need or select the player we really want.

[dieter 3,325]

Dunno what you guys are on about. Norf didn't trade Carey, why should we trade Hogan. ONE GOOD REASON.

[Mt. Dee-Maaan 608]

Just now, Patches O’houlihan said:

Maybe not but if hogan wants to leave you’re tossing up a better deal now or a compo pick potentially next year 

i'd suggest the footy dept. would go after more guaranteed returns that that.

 

[beelzebub 23,348]

44 minutes ago, Axis of Bob said:

So pick 5 is already more than we paid for Lever. 

If Jesse is traded, we aren't going to get two top 5 picks IMO. We may get a top 5 plus a later first rounder or players to that value.

I agree...sorry..that probably irks you

But youre right I think.   I sense the trading is to get May..and some up and comer perhaps.  The drafts picks are a different issue per se.

The club  ( ours ) just wants ITS result...then it's all good as far as it goes

[Jaded No More 68,903]

1 minute ago, beelzebub said:

Sorry Jaded if I steal your post but these two lines intrigue me

What if the result of him leaving...i.e trades etc..Improves the club ??

I ask as Im club first, player afterwards

many are/have possibly suggested...we simply have to make the best of a bad situation. 
I think it's a good situation we can do really well out of. And in doing so Jesse doesnt come off too shabby either

granted...I think differently to many

There are only 3 players, who if they left our club, I would be heartbroken and cry over. They are Oliver, Gawn and Gus (Viney  and Jetta not included as I just assume they would never leave). 

Hogan is a very good player. Of that I have no doubt. If he stays we are still able to improve our list and we maintain a very good player. But if he leaves, I hope we maximize his value to improve our list. 

[Ted Lasso 19,509]

Just now, Rocky said:

i'd suggest the footy dept. would go after more guaranteed returns that that.

 

Such as? 

[Sir Why You Little 37,033]

43 minutes ago, Demon17 said:

The club will not pay what gaff wants. 1.1m

They recognise the need to bring a star studded young group up together a la geelong pay wise. No outliers paywise and the team has bought into this philosophy.

The club needs to improve now, whilst we are hot. 

We must trade hard

[sisso 2,580]

It's gonna be interesting if a suitable deal can't be reached and he ends up staying 

[Wiseblood 24,637]

Statement from the club

Here we go...

[Jaded No More 68,903]

8 minutes ago, Goodvibes said:

Sorry, where's all the Whitfield talk coming from?

Delusion. 

[Demon Disciple 12,119]

1 hour ago, MurDoc516 said:

I'm sorry but i'll lose serious faith in the club if we trade him for one [censored] first round pick. We paid two to get him and we should demand two high picks in return. I'm happy to get one pick now and one in the future to help us secure any future deals, but i'd spit chips if we gave him up for one first rounder. His stats for his age are on par with Josh Kennedy ffs.

The way i see it is we are getting two first rounders and one of them will go to the suns for May. What we do with the other pick is anyone's guess. I'd like to make a play for Sam Walsh but he's like a no.1 pick. The King brothers are the high prospect talls in the draft. 

Totally agree MD516. Anything less than 2 first rounders (especially a high first round pick) and we must simply not do any deal. Like you have said, we gave up 2 first rounders for him, then when he went through all his dreadful times we have stood by him and supported him.

The article suggests he is open to a trade if we are, leading me to assume he will only go if we get his market rate in return.

[Jibroni 5,003]

6 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Statement from the club

Here we go...

Rick Ashley, Gold WB!

One of the posts of the year.

Edited September 25, 2018 by Jibroni

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

I agree...sorry..that probably irks you

But youre right I think.   I sense the trading is to get May..and some up and comer perhaps.  The drafts picks are a different issue per se.

The club  ( ours ) just wants ITS result...then it's all good as far as it goes

Sadly the other reality is that we aren't in a strong position when only one year out from him being an RFA.

Yes he is contracted, but if freo are confident of getting him after next season they wait a year and get him for nothing.  We get better value now, but we won't get two first rounders. 

 

Edited September 25, 2018 by Guest