any dealing will address NEEDS and GAPS for NOW...  thats the opportunity of this.  

If we're going to lose him, best it be now. We stand to benefit greatly. May + Brayshaw would be an amazing get.

  On 25/09/2018 at 07:27, Patches O’houlihan said:

He’s contracted so if they want him cough up your two top 10 picks this year freo. 

Happy to up our offer on gaff with the room freed up and offer both those picks to try and prize out josh kelly 

I hope Gaff isn't mentally damaged by his recent misdeeds.

Maybe his recent victim would be a better target for us, and a family reunion.

  On 25/09/2018 at 07:32, praha said:

If we're going to lose him, best it be now. We stand to benefit greatly. May + Brayshaw would be an amazing get.

I may have mentioned it elsewhere but i seem to recall hearing that May is an arrogant lazy bugger - would he fit if that were the case?

I was informed by an ex player two weeks ago, with a current player in attendance that Jesse has been off the rails, turned up at half time to the Geelong game and is not getting along with a lot of the players at the moment. That a trade will get done this off season.

Edited September 25, 20186 yr by Moistgoatflaps

  On 25/09/2018 at 07:32, praha said:

If we're going to lose him, best it be now. We stand to benefit greatly. May + Brayshaw would be an amazing get.

well ... in a fashion, exactly...When its maximum value to both parties..Jess AND US...if we wait..its just Hogan. Thats no sling at him...just a reality

Whatever happens we are in the box seat as he’s contracted to us. I personally don’t want him to go, while he frustrates at times he’s got incredible upside and will be a star of the competition. The question of whether we can fit him in the team can be addressed by merely watching the Prelim again, we were murdered in the air (like most areas). 

IF we are to entertain a trade then Adelaide have set the starting bid, minimum two first round picks plus a sweetener (maybe we send back a 4th rounder or a player). 

But I want Jesse to stay. 

Like most, I would prefer that he stays but if we can’t convince him to do so, then his value should be assessed at least at the equivalent of the two first round picks it cost us to get Jake Lever. Terry Wallace has placed Chad Wingard at that level and Hogan is IMO worth more than that.

We are facing an interesting month or so ahead.

  On 25/09/2018 at 07:36, Pates said:

Whatever happens we are in the box seat as he’s contracted to us.

I'm worried that we're not. One year to run, just has to say he's not signing and we're screwed.

Very disappointing, but a good club makes bad situations work. 

I would love to have another Brayshaw, but i think Cerra is a better fit for our team. Elite skill and decision making, more silk than grunt. He could take over lewis's position in the backline until a spot opens up in the midfield. 

If we can get picks 5 or 6 or Cerra or brayshaw, and May, we are doing very well. Plus without Hogan, we have more cap room to chase kelly at the end of next year. 

Has Hogan fully recovered from his injured foot or is it not that serious? I thought it was a relatively long rehab. The injury does not seem to rate a mention in any of the articles. He has also been a little injury prone (compared to some other forwards but maybe that is just luck if the draw). Is this a factor in the Club being willing to chat to his management? Wonder how thorough the Freemantle medical assessment will be (we know how that sometimes ends). 

Too many stories floating around now. 

A deal will be done soon i am sure. 

We need to get more speed in the middle...

  On 25/09/2018 at 07:32, beelzebub said:

any dealing will address NEEDS and GAPS for NOW...  thats the opportunity of this.  

To be fair, Majority of our best players are sub 24, except for Gawn, Tmac, Neville. We will hit our peak in 2-3 years time and be up for a further 3, possibly longer. We can bring in young talent, and mature talent. A young jet/high draft pick + May is ideal

 

Can we get a King twin?

  On 25/09/2018 at 07:36, Pates said:

Whatever happens we are in the box seat as he’s contracted to us. I personally don’t want him to go, while he frustrates at times he’s got incredible upside and will be a star of the competition. The question of whether we can fit him in the team can be addressed by merely watching the Prelim again, we were murdered in the air (like most areas). 

IF we are to entertain a trade then Adelaide have set the starting bid, minimum two first round picks plus a sweetener (maybe we send back a 4th rounder or a player). 

But I want Jesse to stay. 

Pates, I'm not so sure of that. Talent wise Hogan is right up there. But it's not always that simple.

  On 25/09/2018 at 07:38, Dappa Dan said:

I'm worried that we're not. One year to run, just has to say he's not signing and we're screwed.

Although most of us agree that we caved to Adelaide we still came to the party with 2 first round picks for Lever when it was a forgone conclusion he was gone. 

We’ve got this trade period and then if things done work he has another year with us to try for a premiership ?.

At the moment we have Greg Denham who has added nothing to the situation (Fremantle want him is his article, in summary), and Jon Ralph saying Hogan is open to it. Ralph is a better journalist than Denham but I'm yet to see anything which actually adds up to a trade being considered by the club and/or by Hogan.

I don't want to lose Hogan, I am firmly of the view that if he's not already a star of the competition he will absolutely become one. I don't buy into some of the stuff that people come on here and say about him not being friends with the boys at the club, the only evidence as to his connection to the club is positive every single time.

But, if he is considering moving and the club considers that his price this year is worth something of value to us, then I can completely understand making a move now. The key here will be to ensure we get not just value, but something that we really need in our starting 22 for 2019. How useful is a draft pick, whether top 10 or otherwise, when we're a preliminary finalist and should be in flag contention as of next year, when we're losing an established key forward?

As my mate Conan Doyle used to say... Quick Watson... the game is afoot..

Now to get Eagles and Freo into a good old fashioned bidding war.

Have we had confirmation by the way that Hogan wants to go west?

A competition wide bidding war would be great.

  On 25/09/2018 at 07:46, Diamond_Jim said:

As my mate Conan Doyle used to say... Quick Watson... the game is afoot..

Now to get Eagles and Freo into a good old fashioned bidding war.

Have we had confirmation by the way that Hogan wants to go west?

A competition wide bidding war would be great.

Much as I’d love the Eagles to join the table I don’t see them being desperate for a key forward. Though they can put a bid in just to force Freos hand! ?

  On 25/09/2018 at 07:32, praha said:

If we're going to lose him, best it be now. We stand to benefit greatly. May + Brayshaw would be an amazing get.

Melbourne’s starting point in a trade for Hogan would be to ask for Fremantle’s first draft pick, which is currently No.5 but will be pushed back to six by a Tom Lynch compensation selection.

There might be other components to that trade but they would be unlikely to also receive Brisbane’s pick 4 for Hogan if they traded it to Fremantle for Lachie Neale.

If lever is worth 2 1st rounders then so is hogan

What next - the Weed wants to return to his Pie heritage 

Just out of curiosity

Has Hogan..or his management come out to flatly deny any of this ??

discuss

  On 25/09/2018 at 07:46, Diamond_Jim said:

As my mate Conan Doyle used to say... Quick Watson... the game is afoot..

Now to get Eagles and Freo into a good old fashioned bidding war.

Have we had confirmation by the way that Hogan wants to go west?

A competition wide bidding war would be great.

Hogan won’t agree to go to the eagles unfortunately. He’ll only go to Freo.

  On 25/09/2018 at 07:55, beelzebub said:

Just out of curiosity

Has Hogan..or his management come out to flatly deny any of this ??

discuss

No they have confirmed it