Farewell Jesse Hogan

[Allus Monk 568]

5 hours ago, sisso said:

Unless he requests a trade, I can't see it happening...Goodwin hasn't built the foundations of the club on strong relationships only to offload one of our most promising young stars when he's just about to peak

This.

[Allus Monk 568]

I know it doesn't get him to WA,, but would we consider a straight trade with Gold Coast for Steven May, who now need a key forward to replace Lynch. Or more likely, a three club deal involving Freo in some way.

[Nasher 33,607]

Unless Hogan asks to go, he won’t be traded. You can blow on about professional club and every player has a price and improve the list and blah blah blah, but at the end if the day, no club willingly parts with a player of his calibre. 

[Ethan Tremblay 30,823]

5 minutes ago, Allus Monk said:

I know it doesn't get him to WA,, but would we consider a straight trade with Gold Coast for Steven May, who now need a key forward to replace Lynch. Or more likely, a three club deal involving Freo in some way.

Far out. 

[Ethan Tremblay 30,823]

4 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Unless Hogan asks to go, he won’t be traded. You can blow on about professional club and every player has a price and improve the list and blah blah blah, but at the end if the day, no club willingly parts with a player of his calibre. 

Nail on head. 

[Cards13 9,117]

54 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Unless Hogan asks to go, he won’t be traded. You can blow on about professional club and every player has a price and improve the list and blah blah blah, but at the end if the day, no club willingly parts with a player of his calibre. 

I just don’t get the argument that he is tradable. He is our number 1 fwd/mid, his skills up the ground and his running capacity is at such a high level. TMac number 2.

As always he has a few things to keep working on but I can’t see a trade giving us the same value as Hogs brings us. 

We need to find a way to fit all 3 of Hogs, TMac and Weid in the team.

[Moonshadow 17,675]

3 hours ago, Red and Blue realist said:

I'm not against the club looking at all possibilities, and hope they do, there's just been a lot who've jumped onto trading Hogan because they think he's at his highest value, and that just seems to be the old MFC way of thinking. Draft picks won't do a heap for us for the next few years, we've got a very young list and only really have Lewis, Jones and Jetta who'll come out of the weekends team in the next 3/4 years (due to age, form/injury can happen to anyone). 

There's a lot more emotional outragists on this thread who refuse to even consider the possibility of Hogan playing elsewhere. Reminds me a bit of the Mitch Clark era.

I doubt any right minded person wants Hogan to leave, but discussion about our needs and where he fits into that, including the possibility of a trade, should not be dismissed. I'd be disappointed if the club wasn't doing similar.

[Wiseblood 24,637]

6 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

There's a lot more emotional outragists on this thread who refuse to even consider the possibility of Hogan playing elsewhere. Reminds me a bit of the Mitch Clark era.

I doubt any right minded person wants Hogan to leave, but discussion about our needs and where he fits into that, including the possibility of a trade, should not be dismissed. I'd be disappointed if the club wasn't doing similar.

I wouldn't call them emotional outragists, Moonie.  I'd just call them posters who see what Jesse brings to the team and how good the 1-2 punch of T Mac and Hogan could be for years and years to come.

I'll add that, if he gave the club some indication that he wants to go back home, then I'd expect the club to follow up on a suitable trade to get that done.  But if he doesn't then I'd suggest the club would not be looking at doing anything with him other than getting him fit and ready to fire in 2019.

[binman 42,615]

Two completely ridiculous threads on DL for the last couple of months. This is one. 

[Demons rising 52]

Just watched Goodwin on the couch 

basically called the rumor and notion of trading hogan the bull tish it is 

said Melbourne player through and through almost all Australian year 

involved with group 

close the thread

[layzie 33,741]

4 minutes ago, Demons rising said:

Just watched Goodwin on the couch 

basically called the rumor and notion of trading hogan the bull tish it is 

said Melbourne player through and through almost all Australian year 

involved with group 

close the thread

Why close the thread? It’s stimulated some good discussion. Thought that was what we were here for. 

[Lord Neville X Flash 275]

I wonder if Hogan could become the best third tall ever that pushes into the midfield, with Weid and Tmac as the traditional FF and CHF.

[What 18,810]

7 minutes ago, Demons rising said:

 

basically called the rumor and notion of trading hogan the bull tish it is 

said Melbourne player through and through almost all Australian year 

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Beautiful.

Hes a star.   Get him and Lever back next season into a team with some finals experience and hopefully Viney on the park all season... look out.

[Wiseblood 24,637]

4 minutes ago, layzie said:

Why close the thread? It’s stimulated some good discussion. Thought that was what we were here for. 

If the thread was entitled 'Hogan's best position going forward' then I'd agree.  But when the coach shoots down any chance of him being traded then what's the point of discussing it?  Should we start a thread on every player and get some discussion going on how we might trade them as well?

He was never going to be traded and, unless he wants out, the club will never consider it.

[Lucifers Hero 39,508]

Goodwin just said on OTC that Jesse isn't going anywhere.  'He is Melbourne through and through.'

There were no weasel words around it.  He was very clear and definitive.

Jesse stays!

[beelzebub 23,313]

9 minutes ago, layzie said:

Why close the thread? It’s stimulated some good discussion. Thought that was what we were here for. 

It is ..some can't help themselves.

[Moonshadow 17,675]

On 8/12/2018 at 6:48 PM, Wiseblood said:

That's one of the biggest lies I've seen on here.

Trade Hogan?  GTFO.

 

On 8/12/2018 at 7:26 PM, Wiseblood said:

 Joke of a thread.

 

On 8/13/2018 at 10:34 AM, Wiseblood said:

...But nah, let's trade him and put our faith in a kid that hasn't really done a thing at senior level.

I worry for our supporter base sometimes.

 

29 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

I wouldn't call them emotional outragists, Moonie. 

Really Wise?  ??

[beelzebub 23,313]

Just now, Lucifer's Hero said:

Goodwin just said on OTC that Jesse isn't going anywhere.  'He is Melbourne through and through.'

There were no weasel words around it.  He was very clear and definitive.

Jesse stays!

Strangely the coach ISN'T the last word on lists. If coaches controlled everything... we'd never lose.

 

[Wiseblood 24,637]

2 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

 

 

 

Really Wise?  ??

Nothing emotional in it my friend.  Just the facts.

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

It still blows me away that this is going on on any level. Obviously when Kingy says it it has to be looked at, followers will be followers. But why have we considered trading this guy ahead of anyone else on the list? Oliver? Viney? Tracca? TMac? Gawn? If Hogan's tradeble then they are all tradeable...

I have a sneaking suspicion that for many who want to look at trading him, they're only proposing it because they fear the next ten years of trade rumours that will follow him as he racks up 300 games in the red and blue. It's almost like they think they're "onto something" by getting in early? It's absurd to the point of stupidity.

Get used to it folks. It's only JUST starting. For years we've had kids with potential getting poached who hadn't won anything... Just you wait and see what the media will be like if/when we DO actually start blooding players who become decorated with AAs and Colemans and AFLCA champion awards.

I mean, I can't be the only person on here who's fantasised for YEARS about having a gun CHF from another state that everyone creates rumours about? It's like dating a really hot girlfriend. The reason people look is because they're attractive. It's part and parcel of HAVING the good players, isn't it?

[beelzebub 23,313]

7 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Goodwin just said on OTC that Jesse isn't going anywhere.  'He is Melbourne through and through.'

There were no weasel words around it.  He was very clear and definitive.

Jesse stays!

and ScoMo was Malcolm's Mate...

Simon might want to focus on the finals ( and best of luck to that... we'll be happy chappies )

The EOS bring any of a 100 surprises. The coach has input...but not final say.

The whole purpose of this thread is about the merits of a trade, the worth etc. We'll let the club have final call on the event.

No one here really can do that eh.

[layzie 33,741]

40 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

If the thread was entitled 'Hogan's best position going forward' then I'd agree.  But when the coach shoots down any chance of him being traded then what's the point of discussing it?  Should we start a thread on every player and get some discussion going on how we might trade them as well?

He was never going to be traded and, unless he wants out, the club will never consider it.

Well that’s true Wise but stranger things have happened at this time of the year. Don’t get me wrong it’s great that the coach has said that but Carlton said the same thing about Gibbs and Richmond about Deledio the year before.

I don’t want to trade him but I still like to see others point of view even if it doesn’t affirm my own opinion.

Of course, we don’t want threads on every player but if they command some good value in the trade market it’s worth at least a thought.

[Damo 3,343]

How many "close this threads" calls were on Jack Watts thread?

It doesnt look to me as if Jesse is happy at MFC at all.At all.

If he is as staunch as stated fine, but I dont believe it.

[Dee tention 616]

Close the thread immediately... Way too many pages.

Insulting to Hogan I think! 

He wears Red & Blue and is one of our own!

[Moonshadow 17,675]

Haven't seen the OTC interview, but seriously folk, did anyone think he'd say anything else? Goody was hardly going to say he's up for trading Hogan in October. It's the start of our first finals in 3279 years and all coaches would state the obvious in this case.