Farewell Jesse Hogan

[faultydet 7,594]

14 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

This is a job for International Rescue

Thunderbird 2 i reckon. 

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,621]

Bell end is going to have a massive target on his back tommorow when he arrives at the airport. 

If he has a set he would do some media, but no doubt he will slip out the back door West Coast Eagles style.

[Diamond_Jim 12,390]

8 x $1M actually sounds a decent deal for Freo.

I can understand the thinking by Hogan. he's going back to  a town where he cannot change clubs easily and obviously going home is big.

If I was his manager I would have been asking 4 x $1.1 with an extra 100k in years 3 and 4.

As others have said with the expected increment in salary payments he will be around their 5th top paid player in four years.

Now about the navicular??

And of course salary has nothing to do with trade value save that with high salaries go high trade picks.

This sounds like amateur hour all round... Managers are paid to do these deals months if not years in advance.

[dl4e 5,851]

9 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Sun is reporting that Peter Bell is flying into Melbourne tomorrow to resume talks on a deal that will potentially include pick 5 and other picks, thus allowing us to secure May and KK. So, nothing new really, other than what we all knew - Bell was bluffing. 

Bell publicly declared Freo were not going to pursue the Hogan chase due to due diligence. I believe the MFC should tell him to f%$^ o&^.

[daisycutter 29,429]

Just now, dl4e said:

Bell publicly declared Freo were not going to pursue the Hogan chase due to due diligence. I believe the MFC should tell him to f%$^ o&^.

they just might.......depending

[Diamond_Jim 12,390]

would MFC offer 8 x $1m?

Not sure I would

[beelzebub 23,245]

4 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

would MFC offer 8 x $1m?

Not sure I would

Nupp. 8 years is fools territory. 

He won't stay on any park for a full season next year or any coming. 

Strange days.

[KLV 1,763]

11 hours ago, GCDee said:

Am I going crazy but in what world is Lachie Neale worth more than Jesse Hogan? 

Like seriously.... 

1 is a decent mid who is an accumulator who has happened to win 2 B & F's at a rabble club whilst never coming top 10 in the Brownlow. 

the other is a 23 year old key forward who has the best numbers at this age as any key forward in the league. Once in a generation player. The thought that Freo will get Hogan & Change for Neale makes me want to spew. 

I simply do not get it....

Nor do I 

[Bang Bang Bang 5,781]

Herald Sun saying our stance re. Two first round picks has softened. Noooooooo 

[Mt. Dee-Maaan 586]

27 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Sun is reporting that Peter Bell is flying into Melbourne tomorrow to resume talks on a deal that will potentially include pick 5 and other picks, thus allowing us to secure May and KK. So, nothing new really, other than what we all knew - Bell was bluffing. 

lol. hope he's aware jesse is currently in perth. haha. nooooo ideaaaaa

[beelzebub 23,245]

1 minute ago, No Plan B said:

Herald Sun saying our stance re. Two first round picks has softened. Noooooooo 

Freos stance was one.

Supposedly our 2 

Deal was always in the middle.

I'm not sure our rhetoric was any more than that. The club wanted/wants a suitable outcome... whatever gets there is the required from Freo.

[Demons11 6,755]

29 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Sun is reporting that Peter Bell is flying into Melbourne tomorrow to resume talks on a deal that will potentially include pick 5 and other picks, thus allowing us to secure May and KK. So, nothing new really, other than what we all knew - Bell was bluffing. 

I think every list manager will be in Melbourne tomorrow as they all need to be there for the whole day on Wednesday. 

[skills32 229]

The poster who said the AFL is orchestrating the wed tv spectacular is 100% correct IMO.

They are just leaking snippets to journos.

Commonly called spoilers.

I feel that every one inc myself has reacted just the way they wanted.

AAAAARRRGGGGHHH been conned again.

Source.  Bell flying into Melbourne.

 

[Mt. Dee-Maaan 586]

again. we need 5 and next year's first from freo. or, 5 and brayshaw/cerra. cough up dockheads or F off!

[Redleg 40,379]

2 hours ago, Demonland said:

The length of contract should have no effect of the price paid in terms of picks. 

It does in compensation from the AFL for losing a player.

[Adam The God 29,662]

19 minutes ago, dl4e said:

Bell publicly declared Freo were not going to pursue the Hogan chase due to due diligence. I believe the MFC should tell him to f%$^ o&^.

And it sounded just as ridiculous then, as it does now. 

Amateur hour, indeed.

No one was falling for that, save one or two Demonlanders and a few mugs in the press.

[Redleg 40,379]

2 hours ago, beelzebub said:

Who is his right mind would sign an 8 year contract these days.

A player who has no hope of playing 8 years.

[Dr. Gonzo 23,889]

2 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

$1m pa is pretty standard for a top forward.  An with inflation it won't be much in years 6-8.

But 8 years!!  Can't be too much wrong with his foot!! 

Edit:  Update: https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trade-jesse-hogans-large-contract-demands-contributed-to-fremantle-rejecting-melbournes-trade-offer/news-story/578fbad1c64f774a808b80e3b8707900

JESSE Hogan’s camp asked Fremantle for an $8 million deal over eight years before the Dockers emphatically rejected Melbourne’s trade offer.

Fremantle was prepared to consider a three or four-season contract, but considered eight years as a leap of faith too far.

"...the Dockers spent significant time weighing up whether Hogan was worth it all. In the end, he wasn’t and the club’s statement was not a bluff".

A Hogan trade is not dead in the water, but it appears Melbourne will have to buckle first.

 

That sounds to me like Hogan wanted to explore his options to move home but isn't really all that keen to move unless he gets a Godfather offer (years-wise anyway). And if he does leave MFC want to be properly compensated for what they view as a generational player that you can build a club around.

The other possibility MFC were the ones pushing this and Hogan demanded a ridiculous contract from Freo to move knowing they were unlikely to cough up and if they did he'd be set for the rest of his career.

It just seems like circumstances brought this to a head with Hogan not willing to commit long-term and mentioning his willingness to explore his options next year, Weideman having a good final month of the season, May being available, Hogans foot injury, Freo having a top 5 pick and MFC possibly reconsidering Hogan's $900k salary.

Personally I'll be glad if he stays but I'd hope he reconsiders committing to the club long term (assuming the club still want him to). I don't think he'll play his best footy until he has it right in his head where he will be playing long term.

Edited October 15, 2018 by Dr. Gonzo

[Redleg 40,379]

1 hour ago, don't make me angry said:

If the 8 mill over 8 scared off freo, then hogan will come back to us with his tail in between his legs, just like Dusty did when GWS knock him back, and Richmond re -signed him for peanuts. This will be a huge dent to his ego, this might DRV him to extended his contract with us.

Yep Tigers signed Dusty for peanuts. About $1.3m peanuts a year for about 6 years.

[DeeZee 7,347]

Instead of two first rounders it could be 5 ,23 and 36

[The Third Eye 255]

3 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

Instead of two first rounders it could be 5 ,23 and 36

Suggest that might be 5, 23 & 30.

At this point in time, Melbourne already has pick 36.

[Dr. Gonzo 23,889]

2 hours ago, Demon from Sydney said:

then he walks out which is inevitable,for less compensation than we can get now

Explain why this would be the case?

[Engorged Onion 10,187]

We’re all hostage in the AFL version of the Truman show. All the players, agents journo’s, ceo’s, heads of recruitment etc, are the actors. They’ve received their scripts post Rd 23, and you and I are Jim Carrey, thinking this is real...and then the realisation of the reality starts to dawn.

The outrage...

The drama...

The betrayal...

It is just entertainment after all...

Edited October 15, 2018 by Engorged Onion

[DeeZee 7,347]

1 minute ago, The Third Eye said:

Suggest that might be 5, 23 & 30.

At this point in time, Melbourne already has pick 36.

Yeah that’s the one. 

[Dr. Gonzo 23,889]

2 hours ago, Demon from Sydney said:

Its exactly what it is.Other sports finish up & let the players & supporters relax for a while but the AFL feel they need the constant spotlight.They did the same by demanding all state leagues etc finish before their GF.Seriously Trade Week should be 2-3 days maximum as most of the clubs know who they want & who they want out months ago.

Nah, the trade period should be longer if anything. In many pro sports the trade period extends into the season.