Farewell Jesse Hogan

[Ouch! 2,258]

57 minutes ago, SFebes said:

But, the fact Jesse has said he wants to go to Freo, I don't want him next year now, before that I wasn't phased either way, so long as we get what we ask, which is 2 first rounders or similar.

Has Hogan said he wants to be traded? I didn't hear that yet... 

*Edit* didn't see replies on prev page... apologies.

Edited October 11, 2018 by Ouch!

[monoccular 17,413]

9 hours ago, radar said:

This has “go home factor”, Freo, Mitch Clark and 11 th hour surprise destination all over it 

 

Next he’ll be unboxing new Nikon

Is the career ending foot injury included in the Mitch Clark simile?

Edited October 11, 2018 by monoccular

[SFebes 4,884]

Just now, Ouch! said:

Has Hogan said he wants to be traded? I didn't hear that yet... 

Mitch Cleary said he wants to be at Freo next year. Players don't need to come out and say anything, I'm not sure why everyone is thinking that, they can agree behind closed doors, like May would have. As I said, he wouldnt of done a medical if he didn't want to go there. Nor would Freo put in an offer if didn't want to go there. Hope is the first sign of denial around these parts (not directed at you).

[Lucifers Hero 39,610]

Good Lord!  I posted the Hogan to GCS as a joke and some here have run with it!  GCS would jump at the chance as would most clubs. 

And sure it would be easy to get a great deal from GCS involving May (and one of their juicy top end picks) but can anyone really see Jessie going up there!!  There is fantasy and then there is beyond fantasy. 

But if Jessie stays next year will be a whole different story.  Clubs will be lining up to get him and it will cost Freo a lot more to nab him.  They will regret if they don't do a fair deal now!!

Edited October 11, 2018 by Lucifer's Hero

[Demons1858 1,753]

40 minutes ago, Older demon said:

Some gent keeps pestering SEN asking Gary to read out his sms. He is adamant the other club is Sydney. Is this some who reads or contributes to Demonland? C'mon fess up if you are bombarding SEN

If there is a genuine 2nd club in this then I'm guessing its Sydney as they have some history of coming in from no where ... an alternative is it is a rumour designed to invigorate the market place and / or sell papers / listeners

[old55 23,414]

2 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Good Lord!  I posted the Hogan to GCS as a joke and some here have run with it!  GCS would jump at the chance as would most clubs. 

And sure it would be easy to get a great deal from GCS involving May (and one of their juicy top end picks) but can anyone really see Jessie going up there!!  There is fantasy and then there is beyond fantasy. 

But if Jessie stays next year will be a whole different story.  Clubs will be lining up to get him and it will cost Freo a lot more to nab him.  They will regret if they don't do a fair deal now!!

Surf on Gold Coast pretty good - warm water all year round.

[Demons1858 1,753]

10 minutes ago, Ouch! said:

Has Hogan said he wants to be traded? I didn't hear that yet... 

*Edit* didn't see replies on prev page... apologies.

The fact mfc and freo are in heavy negotiations more than likely indicates that Jessie has told MFC he wants to go. It also suggests he and Freo have also agreed to contract terms. But don't expect Jessie to come out and say that publicly as he doesn't want egg on this face if it falls through

Edited October 11, 2018 by Demons1858

[Ethan Tremblay 30,826]

6 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Good Lord!  I posted the Hogan to GCS as a joke and some here have run with it!  GCS would jump at the chance as would most clubs. 

And sure it would be easy to get a great deal from GCS involving May (and one of their juicy top end picks) but can anyone really see Jessie going up there!!  There is fantasy and then there is beyond fantasy. 

But if Jessie stays next year will be a whole different story.  Clubs will be lining up to get him and it will cost Freo a lot more to nab him.  They will regret if they don't do a fair deal now!!

I understand it was tongue in cheek however if another club is showing interest, it makes sense it would be GC. I’m not saying in anyway Jesse would go there, he’s Fremantle bound or staying put for next season. 

Edited October 11, 2018 by Ethan Tremblay

[deebug 1,754]

Well at least gc have picks

[chook fowler 19,446]

32 minutes ago, Diablo Deemon said:

I’d love for Sydney to swoop in and stuff Freo. The lulz would be epic. Couldn’t get Clark done and now they stuff Hogan deal. 

If Swans did get Hogan it would trash all this need to go home talk and declare Hogan as nothing more than a mercenary.

[Ouch! 2,258]

3 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

If Swans did get Hogan it would trash all this need to go home talk and declare Hogan as nothing more than a mercenary.

Sydney have nothing to offer MFC as compensation even if it was remotely true.

... actually it doesn't show Hogan as a mercenary. It shows that the MFC want to move Hogan out of the club and value what May could bring. Hogan is in the middle of all of this, I don't think he's instigating anything, although the rumours of him leaving don't ever seem to have died down!

Edited October 11, 2018 by Ouch!

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10 hours ago, BrisbaneDemon said:

...and an apology from P.Bell for being s jive turkey.

Surely the first ever use on Demonland of the phrase 'jive turkey'

Bravo BrisbaneDemon, bravo.

[deebug 1,754]

Just now, Ouch! said:

Sydney have nothing to offer MFC as compensation even if it was remotely true.

That's why we need to deal with gc they can give us two first round picks

[FarNorthernD 5,861]

6 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

Surf on Gold Coast pretty good - warm water all year round.

No footy bubble and a better music scene than Perth

[Deemania since 56 6,609]

8 hours ago, CHF said:

If no deal is done it may be that Hogan in fed up with the seasonal speculation about his return to Perth and the distraction it provides. it might just push him into making a longer term commitment.

He has done everything possible to extend his 'value' mythology in cruise control about his commitment to the MFC. In some ways, it appears that Hogan is the greatest obstacle to team cohesion and its ultimate success for which we are striving in the upcoming pre-season preparation and - if he stays - 2019. It appears that if we make the deepest end of the finals or greater he then reluctantly would have stayed - earning hundreds of thousands of dollars for the sacrifice - but is under no illusion indicating that he'd prefer to be elsewhere in the mean time. A fair day's pay for a fair day's work is not in his mantra.

[chookrat 4,247]

1 hour ago, SFebes said:

A few thoughts, I think Mahoney coming out and saying we can't land May without moving on Jesse could be a driving factor in Freo's offer also, I reckon Josh would like to take those words back however Freo are just about proving themselves as not worth dealing with by any club, their negotiation process and hard stance from the outside looks like total disorganisation. They could have sent Neale on his way and landed both Hogan and Lobb by now and focused on bringing in more trades, this from a club that nobody has wanted to go for years and they have 2 who do want to now (yes Jesse has told them he wants to play for them).

Seems like West Coast may still be interested and I hope Gold Coast come knocking with their picks also, Jesse could be a marquee player for them for 10 years and the AFL will pay his salary or help out at least. Work out a deal with May, KK maybe Jack Martin or some decent player (KPF depth)and get it done.

I do think Jesse will end up at Freo at this stage, but they'd want to get cracking. What a basketcase of a club, basically holding up many other clubs doing deals while they're at it too. The way they've conducted themselves this trade period is an embarrassment and I would be [censored] off if I was a member.

Anyway, I think it was a pretty slimy move from Freo trading their pick 6, trying to make us fold, but buckle up, the more clubs come knocking the better now and it'll all come back to bite them. What a beautiful article/clip from 9 Perth last night haha.

But, the fact Jesse has said he wants to go to Freo, I don't want him next year now, before that I wasn't phased either way, so long as we get what we ask, which is 2 first rounders or similar.

Where has Jesse stated he wants to go to Freo. This is not fact, it is speculation. We have no idea what is driving this, whether it is Jesse wanting to go back to Perth or the club wanting him to declare where his future is this trade period. 

[old55 23,414]

3 minutes ago, FarNorthernD said:

No footy bubble and a better music scene than Perth

Pick 2 + 3 + May + KK our opening ambit 

Get it done you wimp Mahoney

Edited October 11, 2018 by Fifty-5

[deebug 1,754]

1 minute ago, Fifty-5 said:

Pick 2 + 3 + May + KK our opening ambit

That's fair

[chook fowler 19,446]

6 minutes ago, Ouch! said:

Sydney have nothing to offer MFC as compensation even if it was remotely true.

... actually it doesn't show Hogan as a mercenary. It shows that the MFC want to move Hogan out of the club and value what May could bring. Hogan is in the middle of all of this, I don't think he's instigating anything, although the rumours of him leaving don't ever seem to have died down!

I think the club want to move Hogan on because he won’t sign an extension. If he said he wants to commit for 5 years they would be rapt.

[SFebes 4,884]

5 minutes ago, chookrat said:

Where has Jesse stated he wants to go to Freo. This is not fact, it is speculation. We have no idea what is driving this, whether it is Jesse wanting to go back to Perth or the club wanting him to declare where his future is this trade period. 

OK, I'm not answering this question again, it's getting tiresome. As I said, Mitch Cleary said it and common bloody sense would say Freo wouldn't have put him through a medical, wouldn't have put in an offer for Jesse if he didn't want to go there or hadn't agreed. And for the process to get that far all parties would have agreed to salary and terms, this is common sense, if you can't work that out then I can't help you.

[Lucifers Hero 39,610]

17 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

I understand it was tongue in cheek however if another club is showing interest, it makes sense it would be GC. I’m not saying in anyway Jesse would go there, he’s Fremantle bound or staying put for next season. 

I nearly posted a hypothetical May trade (getting pick 2 or 3 back) with the tongue in cheek comment but figured you would all think I was insane to even suggest it. 

... if Jessie does go to CGS can I claim bragging rights on DL for putting it out there first ?

Edited October 11, 2018 by Lucifer's Hero

[TRIGON 4,783]

12 minutes ago, Kumamoto_Ken said:

Surely the first ever use on Demonland of the phrase 'jive turkey'

Bravo BrisbaneDemon, bravo.

https://youtu.be/gE4e0K8rx6g

Edited October 11, 2018 by TRIGON

[SFebes 4,884]

Thank god Jesse is an unrestricted free agent next year!

[chookrat 4,247]

17 minutes ago, SFebes said:

Mitch Cleary said he wants to be at Freo next year. Players don't need to come out and say anything, I'm not sure why everyone is thinking that, they can agree behind closed doors, like May would have. As I said, he wouldnt of done a medical if he didn't want to go there. Nor would Freo put in an offer if didn't want to go there. Hope is the first sign of denial around these parts (not directed at you).

What would Mitch Cleary know? The media are all over the place with this one and suggests that aside from Hogan, his Manager, Melbourne and Freo the rest of us are in the dark. 

I'd also suggest that Freo's 'official' offer is noise that means very little.

One of four things will happen:

1. Jesse stays at Melbourne

2. Jesse is traded to Freo or another team, most likely in Perth 

3. Jesse signs an extension to remain at Melbourne beyond next year.

4. Jesse retires

[rjay 24,889]

16 minutes ago, Ouch! said:

Sydney have nothing to offer MFC as compensation even if it was remotely true.

Parker and a pick swaps that get us May...