5 minutes ago, Smokey said:

Anyone can come up with random percentages out of the air like that to support their own agenda, but the fact remains this is a culture you clearly don't understand and therefore debating it with you is pointless. 

Never been the victim of mindless vandals destroying your property? Tagging is a blight on society perpetrated by inarticulate lowlifes that are incapable of owning or appreciating property or art. Street art has a place tagging is a disgrace.

7 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

agreed (though "culture" is not the word i would use for taggers)

Graffiti, including tagging, mostly started in the late 60's/early 70's and evolved into a collective movement against corporate America. It actually has a fascinating history if your ever bored enough to read about it. The culture I refer to encompasses graffiti, hip hop music and break dancing. Tagging with certain techniques can take incredible skill to do at the highest level. 

Kid's running around with spray cans tagging everything isn't great, I agree with that. But it all has a very interesting story behind it. 

7 minutes ago, ManDee said:

Never been the victim of mindless vandals destroying your property? Tagging is a blight on society perpetrated by inarticulate lowlifes that are incapable of owning or appreciating property or art. Street art has a place tagging is a disgrace.

Tell us how you really feel about it MD 

13 minutes ago, Smokey said:

Kid's running around with spray cans tagging everything isn't great, I agree with that. But it all has a very interesting story behind it. 

Yes that is the part i dislike. I doubt many of the kids who tag anything would know the history as i am sure you do. 

Great street art can be beautiful and clever

In my limited knowledge of this area I always thought it was a cardinal sin to tag over someone's well crafted street art and that business owners would often hire artists to put art on their walls to discourage taggers. 

22 minutes ago, ManDee said:

Never been the victim of mindless vandals destroying your property? Tagging is a blight on society perpetrated by inarticulate lowlifes that are incapable of owning or appreciating property or art. Street art has a place tagging is a disgrace.

Whether you like it or not graffiti, street art, tagging are as much apart of Melbourne culture as is our love of sports, footy the MCG, culture doesn’t have to be nice much like the seedy under belly of horse racing, drinking too much and punting, lets just embrace everything that makes Melbourne Melbourne this week including the mighty Demons!!

 

Edited September 13, 20186 yr by Dedogtor

On 9/8/2018 at 8:52 PM, spirit of norm smith said:

Sensational 

lets take the city back 

Let's not forget that according to Collingwoods TEAM they have GWS on their HOME , this Saturday Night....hmmm

33 minutes ago, Smokey said:

Anyone can come up with random percentages out of the air like that to support their own agenda, but the fact remains this is a culture you clearly don't understand and therefore debating it with you is pointless. 

I was at Hampton station years ago, going to footy, IIRC... when a kid had just sprayed-tagged the over railway walkover. A local collared him and wanted help to get him to the cops.  The kid was alone, scared, and in daylight...  not your typical habitual tagger.

I gave the local a piece of my mind, for wanting to hurt a kid, instead of being tolerant and trying to understand his plight?

I then told the kid what I thought, quietly to him... told him it wasn't what a strong person does, and told him to, 'get',,, quick.

 

I reckon he might have thought again, after that experience... & so might have the local. Who could only think of his own outrage, and not of the kid (person), at all.

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I cant' see how anyone can argue that tagging over someone elses 'street art' with this rubbish is classified at okay.

32 minutes ago, Dedogtor said:

........ culture doesn’t have to be nice ........................ lets just embrace everything that makes Melbourne Melbourne ..................

 

yeah, lets embrace all the things in melbourne that are not nice

sheesh......great logic there

14 minutes ago, McQueen said:

I cant' see how anyone can argue that tagging over someone elses 'street art' with this rubbish is classified at okay.

Probably a Hawthorn supporting loser

41 minutes ago, Smokey said:

Tell us how you really feel about it MD 

Smokey I have just returned from George Town Penang and they have some magnificent street art, not a sign of tagging, so the world can enjoy the wonderful art. I would be disgusted if someone were to deface it.

32 minutes ago, McQueen said:

I cant' see how anyone can argue that tagging over someone elses 'street art' with this rubbish is classified at okay.

I'm not sure anyone has. This looks to me like the chrome from an Ironlak reload can with a NY fat cap wielded by a 12 year old with no respect for art or any sort of ability when it comes to graffiti. It sucks big time. 

There is an age old convention in graffiti that goes "Don't cap what you can't burn". Translate to don't go over a piece of work if yours isn't going to be better. Kids don't understand that concept most of the time, which is why this happens usually. Either that or whoever did this has some personal beef with the artist of the mural, but I'm not sure that's the case. 

But, its a public space and thems the breaks unfortunately. There's some cracking photos of this wall getting around, thats the important thing. 

Edited September 13, 20186 yr by Smokey

For those playing at home - the tag says "Big 199 Boy" hahaha 

31 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

yeah, lets embrace all the things in melbourne that are not nice

sheesh......great logic there

If that’s what you want to pull from that fine “ let’s just embrace every thing that make Melbourne Melbourne !!” Go Dees 

1 hour ago, Smokey said:

Anyone can come up with random percentages out of the air like that to support their own agenda, but the fact remains this is a culture you clearly don't understand and therefore debating it with you is pointless. 

If I catch the pr!ck who tags my front fence he'll have to understand a little of my culture... ?

4 minutes ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

If I catch the pr!ck who tags my front fence he'll have to understand a little of my culture... ?

Bloody oath! the courts wont deal with em these days. If you want something done properly, do it yourself 

2 hours ago, Dedogtor said:

Whether you like it or not graffiti, street art, tagging are as much apart of Melbourne culture as is our love of sports, footy the MCG, culture doesn’t have to be nice much like the seedy under belly of horse racing, drinking too much and punting, lets just embrace everything that makes Melbourne Melbourne this week including the mighty Demons!!

 

Really, so does that include other crimes? Should we embrace rape and murder? Dedogtor bad things happen and I will not embrace them. Tagging is  a recent plague in western culture and it is not to be celebrated.

Edited September 13, 20186 yr by ManDee

27 minutes ago, ManDee said:

Really, so does that include other crimes? Should we embrace rape and murder? Dedogtor bad things happen and I will not embrace them. Tagging is  a recent plague in western culture and it is not to be celebrated.

Wow I don’t know what to say you blokes are sour!!!  this is a thread about a  Melbourne Demons themed peace of street art, I think the club has done a fine job of linking the club to the CBD of late and this street art is a perfect way of doing so, even if it’s a little gritty, even if some old Dees from Toorak disapprove.

And when I say let’s embrace things that make Melbourne Melbourne of course I didn’t mean rape and murder what dark planet are you on!

Just now, Dedogtor said:

Wow I don’t know what to say you blokes are sour!!!  this is a thread about a  Melbourne Demons themed peace of street art, I think the club has done a fine job of linking the club to the CBD of late and this street art is a perfect way of doing so, even if it’s a little gritty, even if some old Dees from Toorak disapprove.

And when I say let’s embrace things that make Melbourne Melbourne of course I didn’t mean rape and murder what dark planet are you on!

i think your original post could have been worded better then, as it sounded like you endorsed the celebrating of the good and the bad of melbourne "culture". 

no-one is criticizing street art.......just the mindless vandalism of tagging (or any unauthorised defacing of private property) 

Its fair play to tag over it, just leave it to someone with talent though instead of writing you xbox gamer tag.

23 minutes ago, Dedogtor said:

Wow I don’t know what to say you blokes are sour!!!  this is a thread about a  Melbourne Demons themed peace of street art, I think the club has done a fine job of linking the club to the CBD of late and this street art is a perfect way of doing so, even if it’s a little gritty, even if some old Dees from Toorak disapprove.

And when I say let’s embrace things that make Melbourne Melbourne of course I didn’t mean rape and murder what dark planet are you on!

Tagging is 'Melbourne'?  [censored], so is coffee apparently. Tagging is universal, ego-driven and brainless.

Go tag somewhere there's not something better already there.

3 hours ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

If I catch the pr!ck who tags my front fence he'll have to understand a little of my culture... ?

I caught a bloke a few years back in the process of "decorating " my side fence . (lived on a corner then ) Made the mistake of thinking he could outrun me.  He made the further mistake of running onto the beach.  ( Lived pretty close to it then ) .  Must have thought i was some dithering old bugger...Shame for him I was just back from trekking Nepal...fittest id been in 20 years.

He never came back...nor strangely anyone ...they must talk among selves   

Hope you get yours !!!