According to AFL.com is out of contract with the dogs and no certainty to get a new one.

Given our ruck cupboard seems relatively bare, is he worth a look, as a cheap insurance policy for the great man?

I'd look at it on the cheap

If we got him for close to the minimum wage then I wouldn't be against it.  

The fact he has struggled to impose himself in a side bereft of tall talent doesn't exactly fill me with confidence though.

Started his career as a defender.. i wonder if thats a spot he could help out in.

I'd have a look at it if he fit into our pay scale. Would be good for depth, can play back too.

Edited August 8, 20186 yr by Win4theAges

No issues with this but there needs to be a role for him in our structure. Max is the number one ruck and that is not up for debate. Roughead can pinch hit but he needs somewhere to play when he isn't rucking. As Dazzle said, perhaps he can be a big bodied defender (though that would start a debate on Frosts role with the team).

 

But he is a Premiership ruckman!!!

  On 08/08/2018 at 00:17, dazzledavey36 said:

Started his career as a defender.. i wonder if thats a spot he could help out in.

The game has only become faster since then. I'm not convinced. 

Almost every side aside from the Dogs has a locked in good starting ruck these days. Unless a team had interest as a defender he'd be going as a back up.

 

  On 08/08/2018 at 00:39, Colin B. Flaubert said:

No issues with this but there needs to be a role for him in our structure. Max is the number one ruck and that is not up for debate. Roughead can pinch hit but he needs somewhere to play when he isn't rucking. As Dazzle said, perhaps he can be a big bodied defender (though that would start a debate on Frosts role with the team).

 

I believe the word you are looking for is Casey.

I'd be happy to delist both King & Filipovic and draft the best state league ruckman available with a late pick.

If a guy like Roughead is available in the pre season draft or as a delisted free agent on low wages, I'm not opposed to that idea either. 

Let's face it, the chances of Max making it through both 2018 and 2019 without some sort of injury are almost nil - we have been lucky so far this year, but we are kidding ourselves if we think we have any sort of viable backup plan.

  On 08/08/2018 at 00:17, dazzledavey36 said:

Started his career as a defender.. i wonder if thats a spot he could help out in.

Agreed! My first thought, too. May well be a handy tall - but firstly, may well be a more solid, mobile and impacting full back with an alter-role at CHB - a good teammate for Frosty down back that may just help us to keep Hibberd on the ground, running, and clearing rather than have to leap, punch, intercept and cover in the air and amend the mistakes of the other alleged backman; and then, take some load off the returning Lever so that he can intercept, as suited, on the backline rove and impact. Integrated with a returning Hunt and JSmith, the backline could be impenetrable. 

Edited August 8, 20186 yr by Deemania since 56

I wouldn't, too slow in defence and doesn't have the physicality to impose himself in the ruck anymore. These days you're almost better off playing without a ruckman than a bad one.

  On 08/08/2018 at 02:07, Deemania since 56 said:

Agreed! My first thought, too. May well be a handy tall - but firstly, may well be a more solid, mobile and impacting full back with an alter-role at CHB - a good teammate for Frosty down back that may just help us to keep Hibberd on the ground, running, and clearing rather than have to leap, punch, intercept and cover in the air and amend the mistakes of the other alleged backman; and then, take some load off the returning Lever so that he can intercept, as suited, on the backline rove and impact. Integrated with a returning Hunt and JSmith, the backline could be impenetrable. 

My thoughts as well. Matty Scarlett rated him very highly when he was coaching at the Dogs. Would look at if the price was right.

  On 08/08/2018 at 00:41, jnrmac said:

But he is a Premiership ruckman!!!

Yep. If we have decided that King and Filipovic aren't going to make it, then Roughead would be a good get to back up Max, until Bradtke is ready, or someone else comes along. He is 27 and could easily play for 3-4 years and he is a " Premiership Ruckman."

  On 08/08/2018 at 07:33, Redleg said:

Yep. If we have decided that King and Filipovic aren't going to make it, then Roughead would be a good get to back up Max, until Bradtke is ready, or someone else comes along. He is 27 and could easily play for 3-4 years and he is a " Premiership Ruckman."

I decided months ago, having seen them a number of times this year Casey play to loosing rucks every week. If you cannot even break even at VFL level what hope the the AFL ? We definitely need a new back up Ruckman.

  On 08/08/2018 at 01:44, poita said:

I'd be happy to delist both King & Filipovic and draft the best state league ruckman available with a late pick.

If a guy like Roughead is available in the pre season draft or as a delisted free agent on low wages, I'm not opposed to that idea either. 

Let's face it, the chances of Max making it through both 2018 and 2019 without some sort of injury are almost nil - we have been lucky so far this year, but we are kidding ourselves if we think we have any sort of viable backup plan.

Backup plan this year would have been Pedo.  Given his age, obviously that gets less viable the longer time goes on, but still could do a stand-in ruckman's role along with either Tommy Mac or Frosty next year if required.  Not convinced that Weid offers much in the ruck at present, but perhaps he will get better at the second/backup ruck role as he further matures.

  On 07/08/2018 at 22:58, davejemmolly said:

According to AFL.com is out of contract with the dogs and no certainty to get a new one.

Given our ruck cupboard seems relatively bare, is he worth a look, as a cheap insurance policy for the great man?

We definitely need someone! Can't believe the match Committee has left us so exposed this year.