1 hour ago, Pates said:

Not gonna happen. OMac is in the team, he’s not going anywhere. 

Wagner for Smith

Melks for Vanders/JKH (either one unlucky)

Buddy is about the only tall in Swans forward half.  Frost IMO will be 1st option on Bud.. as he has the speed to go with him.  OMc does not.

If Bud plays Deep... Neither OMc or Frost have the body strength.

If Allir Allir or other goes forward with Buddy, we don't have the cattle to match him.

Pedo comes in as Full back and has the strength to match Buddy or Allir Allir in deep defence

Pedo is a much better kick than either OMc or Frost..  and he can run with the ball and deliver.

OMc has been off his game recently.

 

This game against the Swans is a MUST WIN Game for us, as we compete for the same area of the ladder...  Much much more important than the games against the Eagles or the Giants...  as these 2 teams are a lock-in for Finals.

 

We can hold out the Swans and save our spot inside the eight. 

 

THIS is the crucial game for our season, right now.

 

I don't think either JKH or Vanders will come out of this team...  they are both too mature and reliable, defensively.

 

IF any others miss it would be Fritsch... He is tired and needs a break, but we cannot afford to be without him in this important match, because of his reading the play, and his skills at both ends.

 

I would rest Fritsch against the Eagles, in Perth.

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5 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

McVeigh and Jack played against Collingwood and if Collingwood had a key defender to play on Buddy Sydney would have lost. Plus both of them are past it.

Rohan and Hannebery were both woefully out of form before their injuries and they're going to rush Hannebery back into the seniors on their own admission because they're lacking leadership (which is covering for the truth, which is their kids are faltering).

Sydney deserves respect, but in context.

I sincerely hope u are right but they are generally quality players and replacing youngsters. 

1 hour ago, Cards13 said:

Always risk a rusty hunt hey hells...

When I wrote that I thought to myself that it just didn't quite sound right...

18 minutes ago, DV8 said:

If Allir Allir or other goes forward with Buddy, we don't have the cattle to match him.

You make some good points DV8, but if Aliir goes forward who will play on TMAC/Hogan?  

Grundy is out.  I didn't see all of the Swan's v Pies game, did Aliir take his spot?

Where and how did Alex Johnson play?

Providing Hunt is matchfit, I'd be going Hunt for Smith and Melksham for Vandenberg.

19 minutes ago, hells bells said:

You make some good points DV8, but if Aliir goes forward who will play on TMAC/Hogan?  

Grundy is out.  I didn't see all of the Swan's v Pies game, did Aliir take his spot?

Where and how did Alex Johnson play?

I didn't see it hb.  I don't know,  but I think its time we got some maturity and strength back into our defence...   and Pedo is so widely skilled, he can add to our flexibility.

 

Pedo in this week with Melks,

Hibbo back hopefully for the Eagles clash?

 

Then we're slowly building again.

Vince has been pretty poor this season. His efforts on Sunday were woeful. Not sure who should come in in his place. Maybe Hunt, but apparently he's not ready yet.

Pedo is pretty much cooked and will be lucky to get another AFL game. Swans only have Franklin and McCartin as talls in their forward line, so I think Frost and OMac will have to do their best!! Pedo wouldn't help with Franklin ... too slow.

JKH ... hmm. I'd prefer Kent to JKH.

AVB ... good on him for persisting, but I don't think he's that great. Hopefully Melksham will be available.

Poor Smith ... he's a real tryer. I hate to say it, but it's looking like Wagner might get the gig.

 

 

11 hours ago, Pates said:

How did Bugg play over the weekend? Would be ironic if I’m the same week Gaff gets a huge suspension for an off the ball punch that Bugg returns against Sydney! 

Really hope Melksham is good to go, our distribution into the forward 50 suffers without him. 

Melksham good to go

In:  Pedders, Hunt, Melk, Kent

Out:  Smith (Inj), Vince, JKH, Vanders

Wont happen as Hunt/Kent haven't exactly hit any decent form at Casey so maybe..

Pedders for Smith

Melk for Vanders

7 hours ago, DV8 said:

I didn't see it hb.  I don't know,  but I think its time we got some maturity and strength back into our defence...   and Pedo is so widely skilled, he can add to our flexibility.

 

Pedo in this week with Melks,

Hibbo back hopefully for the Eagles clash?

 

Then we're slowly building again.

Hibbo is a definite for Eagles clash

27 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

Melksham good to go

 

Goody said in the post match presser Melk was 50/50 to play the Swans.  Maybe just hedging his bets in case he needs 1 more week.

It's been a while but one of Pedo's standout traits when he played down back was his defensive and intercept marking. The problem was that he was too slow to move it on - and that's in an era of late-stage Grimes. He has evolved since then, and is also more athletic - and, although I haven't seen him in action down back at Casey, I would expect perfectly capable of taking on Smith's role, if that's what we need. Which I don't think we do. For this match at least. But we also need to resettle the back-line as quickly as possible. How many reversals in the one post is that?

I see Jayden Hunt had 21 disposals, 5 inside 50s and 7 tackles from the weekends game..

Surely would have to come under serious consideration due to Sydneys small forwards?

1 hour ago, Rusty Nails said:

Melksham good to go

is that an, off the top of the head statement... or something youve heard? 

We are $1.40 favourites   ?

 

http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2018/21/melb-v-syd

I like the idea of Frisch down back to replace Smith. Melksham in to play wing. 

12 hours ago, Super fish said:

Wagner for J Smith

T Smith for JKH

Oscar Baker must be close and then we would be the only team with two Oscars

Just wish we could see Oskar B doing his thing - commonsense says wait until next year.

We need run not height against the swans.  

1 hour ago, SPC said:

I like the idea of Frisch...

Me too (you don't even need to finish the sentence).

I like that JKH is getting some consistency and starting to build confidence whilst getting groomed as a small defender. He has taken positive steps but unfortunately it's a bit tricky to see if he fits in the squad each week due to match-ups and availability. Keep at it fella!

Edited August 6, 20186 yr by 3Dee

Vandenberg will most likely stay in in my opinion.

I think it will be Melksham for Spargo if he is right to go.

Not sure down back, they have a bit of a shuffle to do. I liked Smith coz he could play tall and small and he was quick. He was no superstar but he will actually be hard to replace. Wagner is the like for like. But really Smith was a poor mans Lever and Wagner is a poor mans Smith. Thats a double downgrade!

3 hours ago, Skuit said:

It's been a while but one of Pedo's standout traits when he played down back was his defensive and intercept marking. The problem was that he was too slow to move it on - and that's in an era of late-stage Grimes. He has evolved since then, and is also more athletic - and, although I haven't seen him in action down back at Casey, I would expect perfectly capable of taking on Smith's role, if that's what we need. Which I don't think we do. For this match at least. But we also need to resettle the back-line as quickly as possible. How many reversals in the one post is that?

Well we will need him for the Eagles match.

May as well get him in this week, to settle the back half now; as we are exposed for size and maturity down there.

what about the forgotten man Hannan the kid can play and is good with pressure intensity as well - not so much in the fwd pocket role but maybe high half forward - only problem is he may not fit im still unsure between him and Spargo

Make no mistake Sydney will be up and about after a win like that. Return to form for Buddy and back training, Jack and McVeigh will be better for the run, so too Alex Johnson plus the potential ins of Hannebery and Rohan. I actually feel more confident of beating WCE now than I do Sydney.

8 minutes ago, MSFebey said:

Make no mistake Sydney will be up and about after a win like that. Return to form for Buddy and back training, Jack and McVeigh will be better for the run, so too Alex Johnson plus the potential ins of Hannebery and Rohan. I actually feel more confident of beating WCE now than I do Sydney.

Agree and worried as i don't know which melbourne will turn up (or if we will dominate i50 with crap kicks and then they go swosh and easy goal to franklin etc etc.

On other posters adn Spargo, one thing he does do is gut run. and it's that gut running and 10 possessions that opens up chains. I can't see melksham (because of injury) or VDB (have not seen him do it before + plus think he's more explosive) being capable of that. So if we do drop spargo i wonder if our ability to run the ball is hampered on the wide MCG.

1 hour ago, MSFebey said:

Make no mistake Sydney will be up and about after a win like that. Return to form for Buddy and back training, Jack and McVeigh will be better for the run, so too Alex Johnson plus the potential ins of Hannebery and Rohan. I actually feel more confident of beating WCE now than I do Sydney.

Here's my take and I may be well off the mark but Jack should have retired last year, really doesn't offer much these days. McVeigh will cause trouble off HB if you give him space, close him down. Johnson is just finding his way back. Hannebery is carrying something and not a patch on his former self. If we play a high pressure game Rohan won't be sighted.

I would play a defensive forward on Lloyd as he's their distributor out of defence and tag one of their mids with Harmes. Parker is probably easier to get hold of but Kennedy has also struggled with a tag as of late the again it might be Heeney.